Re: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
On 24/09/14 01:27, nicholas ferguson wrote: As the wikipedia explains, many businesses encourage top posting...like for blackberry etc.. so I had no clue there was a community of regulars around lists...that would give a vehement reaction if their email netiquette was not followed. European right? Well, I did say that, as an American, you're probably in the minority here ... And top posting is fine on a corporate lan, or when SOMEBODY ELSE is paying the bill :-) But a lot of people here are private individuals. And a lot of people still pay for the internet by the minute, or by the megabyte. In other words, every time you don't trim, you're wasting other peoples' money. And time. And disk space. etc etc. Doesn't actually bother me now. But I used to be in that situation, and I have every sympathy for people who are still there. Oh - and by the way - a lot of the best programmers grew up in the days when resources were scarce. They learnt that conserving resources was a far better strategy than throwing resources at the problem. In fact, throwing resources at it (even if possible, oftentimes it isn't) can easily make matters worse. Don't waste other peoples' resources, don't waste your own resources, and you'll turn into a better programmer (Linus is on record as saying the best programmers are all lazy. They can't be bothered to do it twice so they get it right first time). Cheers, Wol ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
On 23/09/14 06:13, khagaroth wrote: Don't change subject on every reply. It breaks threading and creates a mess on the list. Email client : Outlook 12 It's probably not his fault, any proper mailer should be able to keep threads together through a subject change. I've noticed webmail tends to bugger this up, too. But yes, it is a pain :-( Does anyone know how to force Outlook to honour threading? Cheers, Wol ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk wrote: On 23/09/14 06:13, khagaroth wrote: Don't change subject on every reply. It breaks threading and creates a mess on the list. Email client : Outlook 12 It's probably not his fault, any proper mailer should be able to keep threads together through a subject change. I've noticed webmail tends to bugger this up, too. Gmail does not handle that either.. and does not magically deal with top posting or the lack of trimming then again, why on earth number the reply (and keep in each reply the entire thread history) ? who need n.(n+1)/2 messages instead of n ? Norbert ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM, nicholas ferguson nicholasfergu...@wingarch.com wrote: (2) Just tell someone they need to make their emails friendly to grouping in archives... what the heck does this mean: who need n.(n+1)/2 messages instead of n ? Your first post had one message you second one, not only changed the title, but also contained you new message + a full copy of the previous message.. iow 2 messages your third one contained a new message a a full copy ot the 2 previous one so the total number of message is SUM(i=1 to n ; i) = n(n+1)/2 (3) I didn't understand why one of my emails needed a moderator's review... so I started numbering my follow-ups...to insure I knew they went through. Because one or more of them triggered the automated spam filter... and eventually the message was released from moderation... no need for paranoia there. (1) when you say top posting... someone sent me a rather insulting explanation.. and I didn't read it past its first insult. you have been told by at least 2 different persons on this l ML that top posting is rude and undesirable for instance Michael told you: In general it is also polite netiquette not to top-post, and to cut the context of the mail to the minimum necessary for the discussion. of course if you think Michael (or I) does not know what he is talking about, maybe you'll give more weight to a IETF RFC: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt --- [...] - Be brief without being overly terse. When replying to a message, include enough original material to be understood but no more. It is extremely bad form to simply reply to a message by including all the previous message: edit out all the irrelevant material. --- You can, of course, chose to ignore these advices and keep being rude. heck you may as well post in all-cap at this point... it really depend what you expect to achieve here... if your goal is to end-up in the /dev/null filter of most people, you're on the right path. Norbert ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
I know you mean well. But what is top posting? Even googling doesn't return a definition. -Original Message- From: Norbert Thiebaud [mailto:nthieb...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:23 PM To: nicholas ferguson Cc: libreoffice Subject: Re: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM, nicholas ferguson nicholasfergu...@wingarch.com wrote: (2) Just tell someone they need to make their emails friendly to grouping in archives... what the heck does this mean: who need n.(n+1)/2 messages instead of n ? Your first post had one message you second one, not only changed the title, but also contained you new message + a full copy of the previous message.. iow 2 messages your third one contained a new message a a full copy ot the 2 previous one so the total number of message is SUM(i=1 to n ; i) = n(n+1)/2 (3) I didn't understand why one of my emails needed a moderator's review... so I started numbering my follow-ups...to insure I knew they went through. Because one or more of them triggered the automated spam filter... and eventually the message was released from moderation... no need for paranoia there. (1) when you say top posting... someone sent me a rather insulting explanation.. and I didn't read it past its first insult. you have been told by at least 2 different persons on this l ML that top posting is rude and undesirable for instance Michael told you: In general it is also polite netiquette not to top-post, and to cut the context of the mail to the minimum necessary for the discussion. of course if you think Michael (or I) does not know what he is talking about, maybe you'll give more weight to a IETF RFC: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt --- [...] - Be brief without being overly terse. When replying to a message, include enough original material to be understood but no more. It is extremely bad form to simply reply to a message by including all the previous message: edit out all the irrelevant material. --- You can, of course, chose to ignore these advices and keep being rude. heck you may as well post in all-cap at this point... it really depend what you expect to achieve here... if your goal is to end-up in the /dev/null filter of most people, you're on the right path. Norbert ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
So I am getting a vehement response from community regulars as per this Wikipedia warning. So your community of regulars want bottom response? Or can I also do interleaved response...but no top response..right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style While each online community differs on which styles are appropriate or acceptable, within some communities the use of the wrong method risks being seen as a breach of netiquette, and can provoke vehement response from community regulars. -Original Message- From: LibreOffice [mailto:libreoffice-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Norbert Thiebaud Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:23 PM To: nicholas ferguson Cc: libreoffice Subject: Re: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM, nicholas ferguson nicholasfergu...@wingarch.com wrote: (2) Just tell someone they need to make their emails friendly to grouping in archives... what the heck does this mean: who need n.(n+1)/2 messages instead of n ? Your first post had one message you second one, not only changed the title, but also contained you new message + a full copy of the previous message.. iow 2 messages your third one contained a new message a a full copy ot the 2 previous one so the total number of message is SUM(i=1 to n ; i) = n(n+1)/2 (3) I didn't understand why one of my emails needed a moderator's review... so I started numbering my follow-ups...to insure I knew they went through. Because one or more of them triggered the automated spam filter... and eventually the message was released from moderation... no need for paranoia there. (1) when you say top posting... someone sent me a rather insulting explanation.. and I didn't read it past its first insult. you have been told by at least 2 different persons on this l ML that top posting is rude and undesirable for instance Michael told you: In general it is also polite netiquette not to top-post, and to cut the context of the mail to the minimum necessary for the discussion. of course if you think Michael (or I) does not know what he is talking about, maybe you'll give more weight to a IETF RFC: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt --- [...] - Be brief without being overly terse. When replying to a message, include enough original material to be understood but no more. It is extremely bad form to simply reply to a message by including all the previous message: edit out all the irrelevant material. --- You can, of course, chose to ignore these advices and keep being rude. heck you may as well post in all-cap at this point... it really depend what you expect to achieve here... if your goal is to end-up in the /dev/null filter of most people, you're on the right path. Norbert ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
of course if you think Michael (or I) does not know what he is talking about, maybe you'll give more weight to a IETF RFC: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt So I am getting a vehement response from community regulars as per this Wikipedia warning. So your community of regulars want bottom response? Or can I also do interleaved response...but no top response..right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style While each online community differs on which styles are appropriate or acceptable, within some communities the use of the wrong method risks being seen as a breach of netiquette, and can provoke vehement response from community regulars. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
As the wikipedia explains, many businesses encourage top posting...like for blackberry etc.. so I had no clue there was a community of regulars around lists...that would give a vehement reaction if their email netiquette was not followed. European right? -Original Message- From: LibreOffice [mailto:libreoffice-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of nicholas ferguson Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:23 PM To: 'Norbert Thiebaud' Cc: 'libreoffice' Subject: RE: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx of course if you think Michael (or I) does not know what he is talking about, maybe you'll give more weight to a IETF RFC: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt So I am getting a vehement response from community regulars as per this Wikipedia warning. So your community of regulars want bottom response? Or can I also do interleaved response...but no top response..right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style While each online community differs on which styles are appropriate or acceptable, within some communities the use of the wrong method risks being seen as a breach of netiquette, and can provoke vehement response from community regulars. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
The example I am using is building SimpleBootstrap_cpp.cxx as a Visual
Studio Console application.
It builds. But it complains .. It has two major complaints, which I can
solve by:
(1)An apparent conclusion is that a console application in C++, Visual
Studio
Has to initialize cppuhelper::ServiceManager::Data
Who can show me an example?
(2)Or this application has to work with legacy format for services.rdb,
types.rdb etc..
Who can show me an example? And if I spend time working up legacy formats
of services.rdb. will that work? Or will further down code sequence complain
again that it needs cppuhellper::ServiceManager::Data?
From: LibreOffice [mailto:libreoffice-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On
Behalf Of nicholas ferguson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:28 PM
To: 'libreoffice'
Subject: RE: #3 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
I tracked down this problem further. In processing
C:/cygwin64/home/lo/master/instdir/URE/misc/services.rdb
In cppuhelper::ServiceManager::readRdbFile()
Try{
Parser(..,data) BUT data is null
So this code falls through to
readLegacyRdbFile
And that function doesn't handle services.rdb
So question: what haven't I done?
Is there a function to call that will set the variable 'data' to a good
value.
'data' appears to be a complicated structure.
From: nicholas ferguson [mailto:nicholasfergu...@wingarch.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:18 PM
To: 'libreoffice'
Subject: RE: #2 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
I tried the following:
I uninstalled LibreOffice in c:\Program Files (x86)
Then added this code to SimpleBootstrap_cpp.cxx
putenv(UNO_PATH=c:/cygwin64/home/lo/master/instdir);
But same error msg as below:
cannot open C:/cygwin64/home/lo/master/instdir/URE/misc/services.rdb
From: nicholas ferguson [mailto:nicholasfergu...@wingarch.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:54 PM
To: 'libreoffice'
Subject: can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
In odk sample file, SimpleBootstrap_cpp.cxx
Reference XComponentContext xContext( ::cppu::bootstrap() ); CALLS
Reference XComponentContext SAL_CALL bootstrap() AND AT
CODE
char const * p1 =
cppuhelper_detail_findSofficePath(); RETURNED VALUE IS
C:\Program
Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4\program
THEN
// create default local component context
Reference XComponentContext xLocalContext(
defaultBootstrap_InitialComponentContext() ); CALLS
css::uno::Reference css::uno::XComponentContext
cppu::defaultBootstrap_InitialComponentContext(rtl::OUString const iniUri)
AND AT CODE
smgr-init(getBootstrapVariable(bs, UNO_SERVICES)); RETURN VALUE IS AN
EXCEPTION
cannot open C:/cygwin64/home/lo/master/instdir/URE/misc/services.rdb
1. this file does exist:
C:/cygwin64/home/lo/master/instdir/URE/misc/services.rdb
Question: Can someone tell me what needs to be corrected? Do I add an env
variable?
From: nicholas ferguson [mailto:nicholasfergu...@wingarch.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:51 AM
To: 'libreoffice'
Subject: Simple Visual Studio Project (console application) with example of
opening/closing scalc doc and printing out formulas in a worksheet, to
stdout?
Hi
Can anyone send me that kind of example?
I have libreoffice built in debug mode (--enable-dbgutil), on a windows
platform.
You copy paste it. If you email it. zip or tar has to be renamed to *.txt
Otherwise Norton eats it.
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Re: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx
Don't change subject on every reply. It breaks threading and creates a mess on the list. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
