very small mistakes in CUA Office Public License

2004-02-18 Thread Patranun Limudomporn
To whom it may concern, It's my mistake because I didn't change something for CUA Office Public License. Just have a look. This is old (and also wrong too.) paragraph. EXHIBIT A - CUA Office Public License. ``The contents of this file are subject to the CUA Office Public License Version 1.1 (the

Re: making public domain dedication safer

2004-02-18 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Alex Rousskov said on Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 02:26:11PM -0700,: snip The Authors place this Software is in Public Domain. Creative Commons public domain dedication follows If the above Public Domain dedication is deemed invalid under any theory of law, current or

Re: License Committee report

2004-02-18 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Alex Rousskov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While I agree with the goals of the license author, he's putting restrictions on the use of the software, and restrictions on use are not allowed. He points to other licenses which restrict some modifications, but they do it at redistribution time,

How do I get off this list?

2004-02-18 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hey, Could someone tell me how to get off this list? Thanks, -- Daniel Carrera | No trees were harmed in the generation of this e-mail. PhD student. | A significant number of electrons were, however, severely Math Dept. UMD | inconvenienced. -- license-discuss archive is at

Re: apache license 2.0 for consideration

2004-02-18 Thread jcowan
Mark Shewmaker scripsit: So now Person_C is in the position of having Program_C that seemed to have been properly distributed to him under the GPL, but which he can no longer use because his rights to Patent_A have been revoked. That's equivalent to the case where Program_C requires Patent_Q

Re: Inform for CUA Office Public License

2004-02-18 Thread jcowan
Patranun Limudomporn scripsit: I'd like to inform all of you that our project has been place a CUA Office Public License (CPL) on our project website now at http://cuaoffice.sourceforge.net/CPL.htm . This looks like the Mozilla Public License. Can you specify the differences between your

Re: License Committee report - regarding NASA Open Source Agreement Version 1.1

2004-02-18 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
I think the NASA Open Source Agreement is worthy of OSI's approval - - with revision, but it also raises issues worthy of discussion and, perhaps, adjustment to the OSD since the internationalization of intellectual property law will likely raise similar open source licensing issues for other

Re: License Committee report - regarding NASA Open Source Agreement Version 1.1

2004-02-18 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. wrote: Regarding the issue concerning whether NASA may license software it cannot copyright in the U.S., the answer is yes, notwithstanding that significant harm to the conception of public domain for digital works is likely to follow. And if

Re: making public domain dedication safer

2004-02-18 Thread Alex Rousskov
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: Alex Rousskov said on Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 02:26:11PM -0700,: snip The Authors place this Software is in Public Domain. Creative Commons public domain dedication follows If the above Public Domain dedication is deemed invalid

The regrettable use of all in Section 7 of the GPL

2004-02-18 Thread jcowan
A private mail drew to my attention the following sentence in Section 7 of the GPLv2: For example, if a patent license would not permit royalty-free redistribution of the Program by *all* those who receive copies directly or indirectly through you, then the only way you

Re: Open Test License v1.1 rejection

2004-02-18 Thread Alex Rousskov
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: As can be seen form the comments, the problem is clause 3: 3. Publication of results from standardized tests contained within this software (TESTNAME, TESTNAME) must either strictly adhere to the execution rules for such tests

Re: License Committee report

2004-02-18 Thread Carmen Leeming
My license does not appear on your list: Title: Adaptive Public License Submission: http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:6913:200305:bogcdnbbhnfbgpdeahob License: http://www.mamook.net/APL.html This license was submitted in May 2003. I checked in June to make sure that the license

Re: making public domain dedication safer

2004-02-18 Thread jcowan
Alex Rousskov scripsit: Or is the legal world so badly broken that it is practically impossible to reliably place software in public domain? Pretty much. Dedications to the public domain have been rare to nonexistent in the past, and nobody is quite sure whether they can actually be achieved

Re: The regrettable use of all in Section 7 of the GPL

2004-02-18 Thread Seth Johnson
Yes, its distribution is still impossible. The GPL preserves its generality through the generality of the provenance of copyright. Various licenses may assert all manner of things, but the principled position of the GPL inherently applies in this case. (Or so I would say by way of taking a

Re: making public domain dedication safer

2004-02-18 Thread jcowan
Alex Rousskov scripsit: P.S. If a US citizen can take NASA's US-PD software and license it to Australians, can a US citizen can take NASA's US-PD software and release it in Australian public domain? I missed this before. No. The software is not PD in Australia and only NASA could

FSF list Apache License, Version 2.0 as GPL-incompatible

2004-02-18 Thread Dave Hodder
Hello, I note that the Free Software Foundation have updated their licence list at http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html as follows: The Apache Software License, version 2.0 This is a free software license but it is incompatible with the GPL. The Apache Software License is

Re: FSF list Apache License, Version 2.0 as GPL-incompatible

2004-02-18 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://google.com/search?q=The+GPL+is+not+Compatible+with+itself; regards, alexander. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Open Test License v1.1 rejection

2004-02-18 Thread jcowan
Alex Rousskov scripsit: Assuming I did not, let me replace derived products with derived works since product is difficult to define. I will also explicitly include published test results in the derived works. A published test result is a derived work, right? No, at least generally not. When

Re: Open Test License v1.1 rejection

2004-02-18 Thread Alex Rousskov
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Rousskov scripsit: Assuming I did not, let me replace derived products with derived works since product is difficult to define. I will also explicitly include published test results in the derived works. A published test result is a

Re: apache license 2.0 for consideration

2004-02-18 Thread Mark Shewmaker
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 10:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Shewmaker scripsit: Person_B is also stuck--he can't distribute Program_B under the GPL anymore to anyone, because he's not allowed to distribute it to Person_C due to a lack of a patent license for Patent_A. Sure he can

Re: apache license 2.0 for consideration

2004-02-18 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 03:22 PM, Mark Shewmaker wrote: On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 20:20, Roy T. Fielding wrote: No, the patent (if there was one) would be an additional restriction on the GPL. The Apache License itself is not the patent and does not restrict the GPL any more than the GPL

Re: apache license 2.0 for consideration

2004-02-18 Thread John Cowan
Roy T. Fielding scripsit: Code incorporating patents, when the code and contributors' patents are licensed solely under the MIT license, cannot be incorporated into a derivative work distributed under GPLv2, because any recipient who receives a copy of such a derivative work has no rights to

Re: very small mistakes in CUA Office Public License

2004-02-18 Thread Russell Nelson
Patranun Limudomporn writes: and thank you for OSI approval too. Your license has been sent to the board for consideration. No action has yet been taken to approve your license, nor any other license submitted since middle August of 2003. -- --My blog is at angry-economist.russnelson.com |

Re: License Committee report

2004-02-18 Thread Russell Nelson
Zooko O'Whielacronx writes: So if I understand correctly, the Simple Permissive License and the (ideally edited) Fair License both pass the litmus test of OSD. In addition to approving licenses which meet the OSD, the OSI also prefers to slow the proliferation of substantially similar

Re: License Committee report

2004-02-18 Thread Russell Nelson
Carmen Leeming writes: Title: Adaptive Public License Submission: http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:6913:200305:bogcdnbbhnfbgpdeahob License: http://www.mamook.net/APL.html This license was submitted in May 2003. I checked in June to make sure that the license had

Re: apache license 2.0 for consideration

2004-02-18 Thread Mark Shewmaker
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 20:01, Roy T. Fielding wrote: Allow me to make a less convoluted translation: Code incorporating patents, when the code and contributors' patents are licensed solely under the MIT license, cannot be incorporated into a derivative work distributed under GPLv2, because