Re: open-source x free software

2004-05-07 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
Hi John, Just a little question: 1) The freedom to study the source code and adapt it to your needs 3) The freedom to improve the program and release your improvements publicly Freedoms 1 and 3 imply that the source code is freely accessible. When you mean freely accessible, does it means

Submitting a new license or using the current ones

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
Hi all, We have a product that is currently submitted using the LGPL license. Our product is a virtual machine + a class library. Our users create products using the class library and deploy their products with the class library and the virtual machine. We now want to change the license from

Re: Submitting a new license or using the current ones

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
Hi Alex and John, Thank you for the feedback. The principle that open-source software can be freely distributed and redistributed is the very first point of the Open Source Definition. Really? I thought that open-source meaned that the guy can see and change the source, but not related to

Re: Submitting a new license or using the current ones

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
Hi, Can someone tell me why this product is OSI certified? (see logo at the site) http://www.gluecode.com/website/html/index.html Their license is clearly distribution-limited: http://www.gluecode.com/website/html/prod_licensing.htm thanks guich ps: it would be nice if the mail-list

Why open-source means free to distribute?

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
Hi, Since my last thread was little deturped from the main question, i'm starting another one. So, people stated that open-source is free to distribute. But GlueCode's license is OSI-certified and their license is clearly distribution-limited:

Re: Why open-source means free to distribute?

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
I do not see a license on their web site. What GlueCode's license is OSI-certified? Do you recognise the green icon at left? http://www.gluecode.com/website/html/index.html See the orange menu? Click the last link: open source licensing Read it. Isnt it distribution-limited? regards

Re: Why open-source means free to distribute?

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
Hi, The paragraphs you seem to be referring to are not licenses. They only refer to OSL and ESL licenses. What does OSL and ESL stands for? thx guich -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Why open-source means free to distribute?

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
Hi, Just read carefully their page: http://www.gluecode.com/website/html/prod_licensing.htm ESL: Enterprise Source License OSL: OEM Source License None is an OSI approved license. In particular, the Enterprise Source License is certainly not open-source since it does not allow to

Re: Why open-source means free to distribute?

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
Hi Alex Can i also create a license that is not OSI and place the logo at the main page? That could make my users happy. ;-D Only if you also distribute some software, to some users, under OSI license, I guess. That makes sense. But what we think when we see the logo in the site is that

open-source x free software

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
Hi OSI folks, Just to abuse a little from your patience. Since i already misunderstood the concept of open-source (which does not only means source-code-available, but also requires-free-distribution), are there any other concepts behind free software, except that they are free of charge? 2nd

Re: open-source x free software

2004-05-06 Thread Guilherme C. Hazan
People, Thanks for all the feedback. I'll read the suggested articles and try to understand. thanks again guich -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3