Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-16 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Ben Reser wrote: The problem here is exactly that. Assignment is a double edged sword. Assignment makes it easier for one individual to litigate against people who violate the license (which means violating the copyright). But it also permits the assignee to change the license for future

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-16 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Ben Reser said on Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:27:35PM -0800,: He may be hired by a commercial software firm who pays him a large sum of money to turn the application closed source and work on it Ah, well. You are right. Bu the loss is not for ever. But, other persons can always take the code

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-16 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem here is exactly that. Assignment is a double edged sword. Assignment makes it easier for one individual to litigate against people who violate the license (which means violating the copyright). But it also permits the assignee to change the

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-15 Thread 'Arnoud Engelfriet'
Gream, Matthew wrote: This is the case in the UK under the CDPA 1988, for both cases of copyright assignment (s.90) and exclusive licenses (s.92): they must be in writing and signed. Whether any interpretation, in light of other legal instruments or case law, recognises digital signatures as

RE: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-15 Thread Gream, Matthew
Each source file is tagged with a header naming him as copyright followed by a GPL header. For anybody to submit a patch to the original distribution, you agree that he gets copyright of it. In most countries, an assignment of copyright has to be in writing and on paper. So an e-mail

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-15 Thread 'Arnoud Engelfriet'
Gream, Matthew wrote: That's Directive 96/9/EC. I do not think the sui generis database protection can be applied to computer programs. There has to be qualitatively and/or quantitatively a substantial investment in either the obtaining, verification or presentation of the contents (art.

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-15 Thread Abe Kornelis
Mahesh, The nearest analogy from literature I can think of at the moment is X being a grammar text book and Y my essay, which conforms to grammar in that text book. Is my essay a derivative of the grammar book? Example is too far-fetched. What if Y were a separate book with extensive

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-15 Thread jcowan
Abe Kornelis scripsit: The nearest analogy from literature I can think of at the moment is X being a grammar text book and Y my essay, which conforms to grammar in that text book. Is my essay a derivative of the grammar book? Example is too far-fetched. What if Y were a separate book

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-15 Thread Ben Reser
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:24:55AM +0100, Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: That's a realistic worry, although if all those people license their code under GPL, they cannot revoke that license and stop distribution of the program. A bigger issue is if in the future the project wants to change the

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-14 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
ti EMAIL wrote: A piece of software I regularly use is released under the GPL. My concern is how the original writer and maintainer accepts patches. Each source file is tagged with a header naming him as copyright followed by a GPL header. For anybody to submit a patch to the original

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-14 Thread John Cowan
Mahesh T. Pai scripsit: If you do not like assigning copyright to the original author, you are free to create your own fork by adding your modifications, and distribute the whole thing yourselves. People did it to GNU Emacs by creating Xemacs. You are indeed free to do this, but it

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-13 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
ti EMAIL said on Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 03:38:59AM -0500,: Each source file is tagged with a header naming him as copyright followed by a GPL header. For anybody to submit a patch to the original distribution, you agree that he gets copyright of it. Requiring assignment of copyright in

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Mahesh T. Pai wrote: [...] Regarding legal binding -- In all these years, only the SCO has been silly enough to question its bindingness. OTOH, SCO is probably in full agreement with Linus on this: groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZhWT-39U-3%40gated-at.bofh.it quote Yes, but they will cite

Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-13 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Alexander Terekhov said on Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 07:06:40PM +0100,: Now replace kernel with SysV UNIX and GPL with confidential (OCO or something like that). How nice. I consider this as a bug with the law - silliness of treating programs as analogous to `literary, artistic and dramatic