RE: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-14 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Lawrence E. Rosen wrote: [...] Courts don't issue advisory opinions. ... Okay. For the sake of any possible benefit to anyone else who cares, here's some stuff that I think is rather interesting (and highly entertaining ;-) ) reading. Note: follow the links/see the entire context. A)

RE: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Ann W. Harrison wrote: [...] In this example, the commercial tool would probably be a single executable and not a set of libraries or plug-ins. To my understanding, that's similar to a User's Guide to Version 9 based on, extending and correcting the Guide for Version 8. To my uneducated

RE: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Err. Eclipe.org legal FAQ I meant http://www.eclipse.org/legal/legalfaq.html. To: Ann W. Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Initial Developer's Public License Ann W. Harrison wrote: [...] In this example

Re: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread John Cowan
Alexander Terekhov scripsit: To my uneducated understanding, that's similar to http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0387954015 To me, this book is a mere aggregation of papers/works with some glue (start up code, etc ;-) ). Aggregation doesn't make this whole book [just like the

Re: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
John Cowan wrote: [...] Native executables aren't simply collections, however; linkers break up and redistribute the individual object files into different regions of the executable. Do you seriously believe that such details/linking analysis [whether this or that linker redistributes the

Re: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread jcowan
Alexander Terekhov scripsit: The resulting *compilation* is copyrightable. I think the distinction compilation-vs-derivative is rather obvious. Whereas I think the distinction is very subtle and full of borderline cases, of which the native executable is just one. First thing you learn when

Re: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Cowan wrote: [...] Native executables aren't simply collections, however; linkers break up and redistribute the individual object files into different regions of the executable. Do you seriously believe that such details/linking

Re: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Ian Lance Taylor wrote: [...] I think it is a pretty big stretch to say that static linking does not produce a derivative work of the objects included in the link. ... With all those $$ legal funds to protect open source of lately, I just wonder whether the time is right for some

Re: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian Lance Taylor wrote: [...] I think it is a pretty big stretch to say that static linking does not produce a derivative work of the objects included in the link. ... With all those $$ legal funds to protect open source of lately, I

Re: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Ian Lance Taylor wrote: [...] Who would benefit from taking such an action? The Global Economy, of course. For a free software organization, the upside is minimal, and the downside is severe. Really? I see nothing wrong if a free software organization would have to adopt some EULA (to

RE: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-13 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
With all those $$ legal funds to protect open source of lately, I just wonder whether the time is right for some vendor-neutral organization to bring the issue of linking into court. It could be a friendly, relatively-inexpensive summary judgment action, oder? Just an idea. Courts

RE: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-12 Thread Rod Dixon
Larry - For what it is worth, I think your analysis is exactly correct. -Rod On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Lawrence E. Rosen wrote: Here are two examples that I think would not be allowed under OSL which are allowed under IDPL. A commercial database repair tool that uses the on disk structure

RE: Initial Developer's Public License

2004-02-12 Thread Ann W. Harrison
I had described A commercial database repair tool ...parts of the Firebird database code.. with proprietary code In this example, the commercial tool would probably be a single executable and not a set of libraries or plug-ins. To my understanding, that's similar to a User's Guide to Version 9