Re: Copyright

2002-10-31 Thread Mahesh T Pai
John Cowan wrote: You insist that you can own something 100% and relinquish 100% control at the same time. There is not a single legal precedent for this anywhere. Tell it to the FSF Marines. What GPL does is to relinquish control over *redistribution* of the material not the material

RE: Copyright

2002-10-31 Thread Ken Brown
Mahesh, I appreciate your comments. It is good to hear from you. Fortunately (or unfortunately) court precedent trumps assertion. Just because a lot of people believe that something is right does not make it right - ethically or legally. There are over a hundred examples of things that were

Copyright vs? Click-wrap contract

2002-10-31 Thread Brendan Hide
IANAL, but I think I have finally nailed this sucker. If anybody disagrees with me please let me know why. You have the right to do anything with a copyrighted work only if you have agreed and complied with (and read) the license. If you have not read the license, then you are not aware of

RE: Manifestation of Assent and the OSL

2002-10-31 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
Mahes T Pai wrote: You will be aware that people can enter into contracts *without* signing a shred of paper. Offers, and acceptance can be by conduct also. Not that I am disagreeing with you or the OSL just making sure that every one is aware of the position of law. You're right.

Re: BXAPL - request for comments

2002-10-31 Thread Abe Kornelis
Larry, Perhaps you're still confusing terms. Those sections of the QPL don't require that copyrights of modifications be passed to the copyright holder. They are simply grant-back licenses, albeit a little awkwardly phrased. -- I still maintain that BXAPL section 12.5 is a nearly exact copy

Re: Copyright

2002-10-31 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Ken Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GPL advocates want the GPL to become the king of all free software licenses. And if wants to be the king, it will have to go through the fire of legal review in a court. Not really. The GPL relies more on public opinion than it does on the force of law.

Re: Copyright vs? Click-wrap contract

2002-10-31 Thread David Johnson
On Thursday 31 October 2002 07:42 am, Brendan Hide wrote: You have the right to do anything with a copyrighted work only if you have agreed and complied with (and read) the license. Bull pucky! The vast majority of copyrighted works don't even have licenses. Reaching my hand over about two