On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Lawrence Rosen lro...@rosenlaw.com wrote:
Russ Nelson wrote:
I hear a lot of whistling past the graveyard here. As people point out,
it's never happened yet, and so it never will happen. Not a cause for
concern; move along, nothing to see here.
Russ, among
Russ Nelson scripsit:
And yet we know that bridges collapse. Is it reasonable to take steps
against bridges collapsing? We (mostly) don't build bridges out of
wood (software from moral rights countries), but instead out of steel
and concrete (countries where people cannot retroactively change
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Lawrence Rosen lro...@rosenlaw.comwrote:
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Hi Ben,
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It would be difficult for Linus Torvalds to complain about porn when he
intentionally released an operating system that is so ideally suited for
John Cowan writes:
Russ Nelson scripsit:
And yet we know that bridges collapse. Is it reasonable to take steps
against bridges collapsing? We (mostly) don't build bridges out of
wood (software from moral rights countries), but instead out of steel
and concrete (countries where
] Can copyrights be abandoned to the public
domain?
John Cowan writes:
Russ Nelson scripsit:
And yet we know that bridges collapse. Is it reasonable to take steps
against bridges collapsing? We (mostly) don't build bridges out of
wood (software from moral rights countries), but instead
Lawrence Rosen writes:
If you want to worry about copyright law, consider 17 USC 203. [1] Tell me
what you experience as you drive over that bridge
I'll tell you in 35 years.
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From: Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:43 PM
To: license-discuss@opensource.org
Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Can copyrights be abandoned to the public
domain?
Larry, have you ever been driving over a bridge
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Lawrence Rosen lro...@rosenlaw.com wrote:
Russ Nelson asked:
Larry, have you ever been driving over a bridge that collapsed?
Not that I can recall. :-) Out of fear of that very result, though, I
support increased infrastructure spending by our government.
To: lro...@rosenlaw.com; license-discuss@opensource.org
Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Can copyrights be abandoned to the public
domain?
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Lawrence Rosen
mailto:lro...@rosenlaw.com lro...@rosenlaw.com wrote:
Russ Nelson asked:
Larry, have you ever been driving
of moral rights require anything onerous of
you?
Best,
/Larry
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From: Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:43 PM
To: license-discuss@opensource.org
Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Can copyrights be abandoned
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
And yet we know that bridges collapse. Is it reasonable to take steps
against bridges collapsing? We (mostly) don't build bridges out of
wood (software from moral rights countries), but instead out of steel
and concrete
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Johnny Solbu joh...@solbu.net wrote:
On Friday 17 August 2012 02:15, Russ Nelson wrote:
but it's clear that OSI
Approved Open Source contributions from people who live in countries
that claim Moral Rights is inferior to people who live in countries
which
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Henrik Ingo henrik.i...@avoinelama.fi wrote:
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Johnny Solbu joh...@solbu.net wrote:
On Friday 17 August 2012 02:15, Russ Nelson wrote:
but it's clear that OSI
Approved Open Source contributions from people who live in countries
Larry, have you ever been driving over a bridge that collapsed?
-russ
Lawrence Rosen writes:
Russ, have you ever experienced that inferiority in actual open source
software?
/Larry (from my tablet and brief)
Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Oleksandr Gavenko writes:
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 01:10:49PM -0400, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 08/14/2012 11:52 AM, Tom Callaway wrote:
Fedora used to spend a lot of time stressing out over this question, but
recently, after counsel with Red Hat Legal, we concluded that if someone
is explicitly and clearly
Quoting Ben Tilly (bti...@gmail.com):
Based on http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6225 and similar
articles, I'd long believed that a declaration that you were
abandoning copyright was a meaningless farce.
Then by accident today I ran across http://cr.yp.to/publicdomain.html
which claims
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:22:05AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Richard Fontana (rfont...@redhat.com):
I believe I am the counsel Tom is referring to, though the Fedora
policy conclusion Tom refers to was prepared by Tom. Nevertheless I
would see it as Fedora adopting more or less the
Quoting Richard Fontana (rfont...@redhat.com):
Yes. I agree with you that 'public domain' is a misnomer (but no more
than, say, the use of 'proprietary' to mean 'not free-as-in-freedom
software').
FWIW, I feel the latter has domain-specific meaning, here; i.e., that
'proprietary' functions
Ben Tilly bti...@gmail.com writes:
Based on http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6225 and similar
articles, I'd long believed that a declaration that you were
abandoning copyright was a meaningless farce.
Then by accident today I ran across http://cr.yp.to/publicdomain.html
which claims the
Quoting Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com):
Indeed. If the question is: Is this legally possible?, the answer
might very well be No, Yes, or Maybe, depending on the situation,
the jurisdiction, and the case law at the time you ask the question.
This is what I tried to get across on my Web
On 2012-08-14, Ben Tilly wrote:
Based on http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6225 and similar
articles, I'd long believed that a declaration that you were
abandoning copyright was a meaningless farce.
Then by accident today I ran across http://cr.yp.to/publicdomain.html
which claims the
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote:
On 08/14/2012 11:24 AM, Ben Tilly wrote:
Based on http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6225 and similar
articles, I'd long believed that a declaration that you were
abandoning copyright was a meaningless farce.
Then by
Chris Travers scripsit:
I don't see how copyright can be enforced when it is both explicitly
disclaimed and the link with the author is severed. There would be no
way to enforce it, nobody to go after for implicit warranties, etc.
You could claim that it was illicitly published without your
On 08/14/2012 11:43 PM, Chris Travers wrote:
I don't see how copyright can be enforced when it is both explicitly
disclaimed and the link with the author is severed. There would be no
way to enforce it, nobody to go after for implicit warranties, etc.
After all it would be like asking
Quoting Chris Travers (ch...@metatrontech.com):
I would assume that if you release anonymously and explicitly disclaim
copyright, that the code can be effectively public domain.
If you would trust the provenance of code like that, you're a braver man
than I am.
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Cheers,
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