Use Reciprocal Public License or new license

2004-03-19 Thread Fearn, Paul A./Urology
After reviewing the existing approved licenses, our
team thought the Reciprocal Public License 1.1 meets
our needs, however our industrial affairs team wanted
to make some small changes. 

Could you let me know if these 4 changes are reasonable,
or if we need to go through the new license approval
process?

Thanks,
Paul Fearn


Reciprocal Public License 
Version 1.1, November 1, 2002 

-
1. Does the copyright statement at top of license need to 
stay as

Copyright (C) 2001-2002 
Technical Pursuit Inc., 
All Rights Reserved.

or should it be changed to this?

Copyright (C) 2004 
Caisis Team, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center,
All Rights Reserved.



2. In Preamble paragraph 2, our industrial affairs team wanted
to add the including Licensor phrase after third parties?
Would this require creating a new license?

This License is based on the concept of reciprocity. In exchange for
being granted certain rights under the terms of this License to
Licensor's Software, whose Source Code You have access to, You are
required to reciprocate by providing equal access and rights to all
third parties [including Licensor] to the Source Code of any
Modifications, Derivative Works, and Required Components for execution
of same (collectively defined as Extensions) that You Deploy by
Deploying Your Extensions under the terms of this License. In this
fashion the available Source Code related to the original Licensed
Software is enlarged for the benefit of everyone.

-- 

3. In Preamble item c from this section
Under the terms of this License You may:, the group also
wanted to add the including Licensor phrase.

c. Create Extensions to the Licensed Software consistent with the
rights granted by this License, provided that You make the Source Code
to any Extensions You Deploy available to all third parties [including
Licensor], under the terms of this License, document Your Modifications
clearly, and title all Extensions distinctly from the Licensed
Software. 

--
4. Are these changes to Exhibit A correct?

Copyright (C) 1999-2004  P.Alli,  J.Fajardo,  P.Fearn, D.Kuo, K.Regan,
F.Sculli (Caisis Team), Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center,  All
Rights Reserved. 

Unless explicitly acquired and licensed from Licensor under the MSKCC
Software Transer Agreement(STA), the contents of this file are subject
to  the Reciprocal Public License (RPL) Version 1.1, or subsequent
versions as allowed by the RPL, and You may not copy or use this file in
either  source code or executable form, except in compliance with the
terms and conditions of the RPL. 

You may obtain a copy of both the STA and the RPL (the Licenses) at
http://www.cancerdb.org.





 
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Re: Use Reciprocal Public License or new license

2004-03-19 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
Hi Paul,

On Mar 19, 2004, at 7:29 AM, Fearn, Paul A./Urology wrote:

After reviewing the existing approved licenses, our
team thought the Reciprocal Public License 1.1 meets
our needs, however our industrial affairs team wanted
to make some small changes.
Could you let me know if these 4 changes are reasonable,
or if we need to go through the new license approval process?
Well, I think that's two different questions.

The changes certainly seem reasonable, and making it more 
explicit/symmetric by saying including Licensor shouldn't hurt OSD 
compliance.

However, I don't know the threshold for when the OSD board needs to 
make an affirmative statement.  I suppose it depends on what you're 
looking for.

Do you want your new license posted on our website, and the ability to 
advertise OSD compliance? Are you participating in contractual 
agreements that require OSD compliance?  Do you want the original RPL 
authors to adopt your changes?  Or do you just want the warm fuzzy 
feeling that you're doing the right thing by the community?

-- Ernie P.
IANAL, TINLA, etc.

Thanks,
Paul Fearn

Reciprocal Public License
Version 1.1, November 1, 2002
-
1. Does the copyright statement at top of license need to
stay as
Copyright (C) 2001-2002
Technical Pursuit Inc.,
All Rights Reserved.
or should it be changed to this?

Copyright (C) 2004
Caisis Team, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center,
All Rights Reserved.


2. In Preamble paragraph 2, our industrial affairs team wanted
to add the including Licensor phrase after third parties?
Would this require creating a new license?
This License is based on the concept of reciprocity. In exchange for
being granted certain rights under the terms of this License to
Licensor's Software, whose Source Code You have access to, You are
required to reciprocate by providing equal access and rights to all
third parties [including Licensor] to the Source Code of any
Modifications, Derivative Works, and Required Components for execution
of same (collectively defined as Extensions) that You Deploy by
Deploying Your Extensions under the terms of this License. In this
fashion the available Source Code related to the original Licensed
Software is enlarged for the benefit of everyone.
--

3. In Preamble item c from this section
Under the terms of this License You may:, the group also
wanted to add the including Licensor phrase.
c. Create Extensions to the Licensed Software consistent with the
rights granted by this License, provided that You make the Source Code
to any Extensions You Deploy available to all third parties [including
Licensor], under the terms of this License, document Your Modifications
clearly, and title all Extensions distinctly from the Licensed
Software.
--
4. Are these changes to Exhibit A correct?
Copyright (C) 1999-2004  P.Alli,  J.Fajardo,  P.Fearn, D.Kuo, K.Regan,
F.Sculli (Caisis Team), Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center,  All
Rights Reserved.
Unless explicitly acquired and licensed from Licensor under the MSKCC
Software Transer Agreement(STA), the contents of this file are 
subject
to  the Reciprocal Public License (RPL) Version 1.1, or subsequent
versions as allowed by the RPL, and You may not copy or use this file 
in
either  source code or executable form, except in compliance with the
terms and conditions of the RPL.

You may obtain a copy of both the STA and the RPL (the Licenses) at
http://www.cancerdb.org.




 
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RE: Use Reciprocal Public License or new license

2004-03-19 Thread Fearn, Paul A./Urology
Ernie,

Thanks for the feedback. I am specifically looking to

1. advertise OSD compliance (use the OSI Certification Mark)
2. do the right thing by the community

Regards,
Paul

-

Do you want your new license posted on our website, and the ability to 
advertise OSD compliance? Are you participating in contractual 
agreements that require OSD compliance?  Do you want the original RPL 
authors to adopt your changes?  Or do you just want the warm fuzzy 
feeling that you're doing the right thing by the community?

-Original Message-
From: Ernest Prabhakar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:01 PM
To: Fearn, Paul A./Urology
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Use Reciprocal Public License or new license


Hi Paul,

On Mar 19, 2004, at 7:29 AM, Fearn, Paul A./Urology wrote:

 After reviewing the existing approved licenses, our
 team thought the Reciprocal Public License 1.1 meets
 our needs, however our industrial affairs team wanted
 to make some small changes.

 Could you let me know if these 4 changes are reasonable,
 or if we need to go through the new license approval process?

Well, I think that's two different questions.

The changes certainly seem reasonable, and making it more 
explicit/symmetric by saying including Licensor shouldn't hurt OSD 
compliance.

However, I don't know the threshold for when the OSD board needs to 
make an affirmative statement.  I suppose it depends on what you're 
looking for.

Do you want your new license posted on our website, and the ability to 
advertise OSD compliance? Are you participating in contractual 
agreements that require OSD compliance?  Do you want the original RPL 
authors to adopt your changes?  Or do you just want the warm fuzzy 
feeling that you're doing the right thing by the community?

-- Ernie P.
IANAL, TINLA, etc.



 Thanks,
 Paul Fearn
 

 Reciprocal Public License
 Version 1.1, November 1, 2002

 -
 1. Does the copyright statement at top of license need to stay as

 Copyright (C) 2001-2002
 Technical Pursuit Inc.,
 All Rights Reserved.

 or should it be changed to this?

 Copyright (C) 2004
 Caisis Team, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center,
 All Rights Reserved.

 

 2. In Preamble paragraph 2, our industrial affairs team wanted to add 
 the including Licensor phrase after third parties? Would this 
 require creating a new license?

 This License is based on the concept of reciprocity. In exchange for 
 being granted certain rights under the terms of this License to 
 Licensor's Software, whose Source Code You have access to, You are 
 required to reciprocate by providing equal access and rights to all 
 third parties [including Licensor] to the Source Code of any 
 Modifications, Derivative Works, and Required Components for execution

 of same (collectively defined as Extensions) that You Deploy by 
 Deploying Your Extensions under the terms of this License. In this 
 fashion the available Source Code related to the original Licensed 
 Software is enlarged for the benefit of everyone.

 --

 3. In Preamble item c from this section
 Under the terms of this License You may:, the group also wanted to 
 add the including Licensor phrase.

 c. Create Extensions to the Licensed Software consistent with the 
 rights granted by this License, provided that You make the Source Code

 to any Extensions You Deploy available to all third parties [including

 Licensor], under the terms of this License, document Your 
 Modifications clearly, and title all Extensions distinctly from the 
 Licensed Software.

 --
 4. Are these changes to Exhibit A correct?

 Copyright (C) 1999-2004  P.Alli,  J.Fajardo,  P.Fearn, D.Kuo, K.Regan,

 F.Sculli (Caisis Team), Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center,  All

 Rights Reserved.

 Unless explicitly acquired and licensed from Licensor under the MSKCC 
 Software Transer Agreement(STA), the contents of this file are 
 subject to  the Reciprocal Public License (RPL) Version 1.1, or 
 subsequent versions as allowed by the RPL, and You may not copy or use

 this file in
 either  source code or executable form, except in compliance with the
 terms and conditions of the RPL.

 You may obtain a copy of both the STA and the RPL (the Licenses) at 
 http://www.cancerdb.org.


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Re: Use Reciprocal Public License or new license

2004-03-19 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
On Mar 19, 2004, at 1:12 PM, Fearn, Paul A./Urology wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. I am specifically looking to

1. advertise OSD compliance (use the OSI Certification Mark)
2. do the right thing by the community
Well, someone official will have to comment on the threshold issue.  
However, it (naively) looks as if the [including Licensor] clause is 
intended as a clarification, rather than an substantive change.  Is 
that correct?

If that's the case, perhaps you can ask your lawyers whether you can 
just post a clarification of your intent alongside the license, rather 
than modifying the actual license.  That would perhaps allow you to use 
the RPL as is. My recollection from this list is that simply changing 
names of the 'templated' form of the license doesn't affect OSD 
compliance.  However, in some cases you may need to check with the 
original author of the license to get permission, since not all open 
source licenses are -themselves- open source.

-- Ernie P.
IANAL, TINLA, etc.
Regards,
Paul
-

Do you want your new license posted on our website, and the ability to
advertise OSD compliance? Are you participating in contractual
agreements that require OSD compliance?  Do you want the original RPL
authors to adopt your changes?  Or do you just want the warm fuzzy
feeling that you're doing the right thing by the community?
-Original Message-
From: Ernest Prabhakar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:01 PM
To: Fearn, Paul A./Urology
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Use Reciprocal Public License or new license
Hi Paul,

On Mar 19, 2004, at 7:29 AM, Fearn, Paul A./Urology wrote:

After reviewing the existing approved licenses, our
team thought the Reciprocal Public License 1.1 meets
our needs, however our industrial affairs team wanted
to make some small changes.
Could you let me know if these 4 changes are reasonable,
or if we need to go through the new license approval process?
Well, I think that's two different questions.

The changes certainly seem reasonable, and making it more
explicit/symmetric by saying including Licensor shouldn't hurt OSD
compliance.
However, I don't know the threshold for when the OSD board needs to
make an affirmative statement.  I suppose it depends on what you're
looking for.
Do you want your new license posted on our website, and the ability to
advertise OSD compliance? Are you participating in contractual
agreements that require OSD compliance?  Do you want the original RPL
authors to adopt your changes?  Or do you just want the warm fuzzy
feeling that you're doing the right thing by the community?
-- Ernie P.
IANAL, TINLA, etc.

Thanks,
Paul Fearn

Reciprocal Public License
Version 1.1, November 1, 2002
-
1. Does the copyright statement at top of license need to stay as
Copyright (C) 2001-2002
Technical Pursuit Inc.,
All Rights Reserved.
or should it be changed to this?

Copyright (C) 2004
Caisis Team, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center,
All Rights Reserved.


2. In Preamble paragraph 2, our industrial affairs team wanted to add
the including Licensor phrase after third parties? Would this
require creating a new license?
This License is based on the concept of reciprocity. In exchange for
being granted certain rights under the terms of this License to
Licensor's Software, whose Source Code You have access to, You are
required to reciprocate by providing equal access and rights to all
third parties [including Licensor] to the Source Code of any
Modifications, Derivative Works, and Required Components for execution

of same (collectively defined as Extensions) that You Deploy by
Deploying Your Extensions under the terms of this License. In this
fashion the available Source Code related to the original Licensed
Software is enlarged for the benefit of everyone.
--

3. In Preamble item c from this section
Under the terms of this License You may:, the group also wanted to
add the including Licensor phrase.
c. Create Extensions to the Licensed Software consistent with the
rights granted by this License, provided that You make the Source Code

to any Extensions You Deploy available to all third parties [including

Licensor], under the terms of this License, document Your
Modifications clearly, and title all Extensions distinctly from the
Licensed Software.
--
4. Are these changes to Exhibit A correct?
Copyright (C) 1999-2004  P.Alli,  J.Fajardo,  P.Fearn, D.Kuo, K.Regan,

F.Sculli (Caisis Team), Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center,  All

Rights Reserved.

Unless explicitly acquired and licensed from Licensor under the MSKCC
Software Transer Agreement(STA), the contents of this file are
subject to  the Reciprocal Public License (RPL) Version 1.1, or
subsequent versions as allowed by the RPL, and You may not copy or use

this file