Roger and Squad
I will "clone" Platt Holden's generous remark and direct it to you:
"Every once in awhile (sadly, not often enough) a post arrives
thatmarks a milestone in the history of the Lila Squad.
Such IMHOwas Roger's post of Feb. 10 1999."
You have a talent
Hi Squad
All the topics suggest were highly interesting, but I cast my vote
for no. 3 as it goes to the very heart of the matter and continues
the Dynamic-Static thread
3. Is there a "spirit" or "self" and how does it fit into Pirsig's MOQ?
Bodvar
MOQ Online - http://www.moq.org
LilaSquad!
First a warm welcome to Mark Brooks. Your opening message deserves a
lot of attention so I will return to it after examining the righteous
issue as it has developed up to now.
MARY did not answer the question (if knowing right from wrong
guarantees right behaviour) but made it
Horse group.
I would have liked to have another go at the "soul" thing, but I
think Denis provided a new and very interesting topic that have
eluded our attention earlier (if my memory serves me) . So I go for
Denis' entry below
1) [Denis Poisson]
To further explore the Social and
Mary, Diana, Rob and all MOQites.
This is my last entry on the righteous issue and I will not raise
any new questions or go into particular points, but merely say this:
MARY closed this month's topic elegantly by pointing to the righteous
term being SOM to the core. Again it is revealed that
Hi Lila Squad.
The self/soul issue has, in fact, been discussed in many forms
throughout the LS 3 years' history - not to speak of the millenia of
subject-object metaphysics; "free will" its most frequent guise. If I
remember correctly there was a thread over at the MD a short while
ago
BO IS BACK AND TRIES TO SORT OUT THE SOUL/SELF RIDDLE. (WITH
MUCH HELP FROM THE SQUAD)
My self(!)appointed task (of giving John B. an explanation
of how to avoid becoming a leaf in the value storm) almost equalled
Phaedrus' own effort to answer Richard Rigel about Lila's quality. As
we went
Robert and Squad
Thanks to Robert the unemployment rate of the squad will never be
high. After three years and a billion messages and this:
BTW, Does Pirsig ever address dualism?
He does nothing BUT address dualism. He has even created a new one:
Dynamic/Static dualism instead of
To all Lila Squad
Time is running out for this month's topic, allow me a commentary
to some of the participants.
JOHN BEASLEY.
I was greatly encouraged by your message of 25 July. Joel Kovel's idea
of self as a continuum from ego to soul seems to be compatible with
the MOQ view as it has
Hi Keith
My proposal is:
Seen in the light of the MOQ, what is it that is described in the
ZMM. Is it the emergence of SOM, the "coming of age" of the
Intellectual level, or...?
I am leaving tomorrow (wednesday) and will be offline for two
weeks, so I must vote too (sorry). The above will
Cntryforce, David T, David B. and Jonathan and Squad.
For CNTRYFORCE
Welcome on board. I agree with most of what you say. Very much
in certain places, but not about the low quality (if that is what
your 'static' means) quality of the sailboat chores. If your're not
interested anything is
Posters and lurkers of the Lila Squad!
DAVID BUCHANAN
wrote:
The following quote is from chapter 22 of Lila and is on page 277 in
the Bantam HB edition.
"Now, it should be stated at this point that the MOQ supports this
dominance of intellect over society. It says intellect is a higher
Dear Lila Squad, old and new.
Due to circumstances I've been away for over a week and will start by
sending this response to the oldest posts, and follow up later in the
day or tomorrow. Especially Diana's formidable critique requires some
additional thinking.
GREGG BAKER
wrote:
Some of you
Glenn Bradford and Squad.
Welcome to the discussion Glenn.
You opened like this:
Lila squaders!!
I'm happy to be joining you as a new member and this is my first post.
This month's program asks, in part:.
In answering this question we will have to examine both the subject-object
Diana and Group plus a PS for Denis Poisson
Diana, you started your analysis of this month's topic by writing:
Surveying the responses it seems we all agree that the Greeks marked
an emergence of the subject-object metaphysics. With their
separation of rhetoric from dialectic and the good
BO CONTINUES HIS END-OF-MONTH SWEEP AND TRIES TO COME
TO AN AGREEMENT WITH MAGNUS' POST OF 17 SEPTEMBER WHERE
HE WROTE:
I'd like to add the following to Diana's map metaphor. If you think
about actually *drawing* a physical map on paper, then there's no
way you can include both the table
David L., Roger and Squad
I will try to get this through at the eve of September the 30th, and
perhaps beat you all in the "last word" race.
DLT
I see that you have adjusted your view and say that Strawson was
right in calling Pirsig numbingly unclear, and that Popper is your
man now. I
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