Re: CG: explanation of branches for the impatient (issue 5484043)

2011-12-14 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2011/12/13 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: On 12/13/11 7:06 AM, gra...@percival-music.ca gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Second draft uploaded; more robust with rebases instead of merge. Question: the old docs want translators to avoid

Re: Markup module patch (Issue 2026)

2011-12-14 Thread David Kastrup
Ian Hulin i...@hulin.org.uk writes: Hi David, On 13/12/11 22:40, David Kastrup wrote: Ian Hulin i...@hulin.org.uk writes: Hi all, ..snip.. I'd like to deprecate this as I think it's nasty, smelly, evil and kludgy Care to explain why being able to use the same syntax as one uses in

Re: lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/12/14 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: Hi, When I load a Lilypond-created pdf file in Evince I see a lot of error/warning messages in my console. The PDF looks and prints fine though. Anything to worry about ? I am working on Linux Fedora 16, using lilypond 2.15.21

Re: lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Francisco Vila wrote: 2011/12/14 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: Hi, When I load a Lilypond-created pdf file in Evince I see a lot of error/warning messages in my console. The PDF looks and prints fine though. Anything to worry about ? I am working on Linux

lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, When I load a Lilypond-created pdf file in Evince I see a lot of error/warning messages in my console. The PDF looks and prints fine though. Anything to worry about ? I am working on Linux Fedora 16, using lilypond 2.15.21 evince-3.2.1 ghostscript-9.04 Attached: the output from my

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Graham Percival writes: Almost everybody wants stable releases more frequently. They attract positive attention Are you sure? On what fora was the 2.14 release announced? Did it eventually make lwn.net? Has anyone checked how many followers we have on FB or Twitter (MuseScore, anyone?).

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:55:04AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Graham Percival writes: Almost everybody wants stable releases more frequently. They attract positive attention Are you sure? It attracted positive attention on lilypond-user. I never said *how* much attention it

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Graham Percival writes: It attracted positive attention on lilypond-user. I never said *how* much attention it received. Right. Well, I personally don't care. If somebody wants to work on advertising, or even better, work on things which encourage other people to do advertising for us,

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:36:06AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Graham Percival writes: Well, I personally don't care. If somebody wants to work on advertising, or even better, work on things which encourage other people to do advertising for us, they're welcome to do so. Now,

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: Graham Percival writes: At the moment, the top 3 problems for publicity that I see are: Okay, now we're getting somewhere. I would like to add a top reason 0. we don't really have a clue what LilyPond's priorities should be, and where our

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: Umm, have you missed my work on automating patches and fixing the CG lately? I want to make sure that we treat *current* developers fairly, before trying to recruit new ones. We've lost a *lot* of potential effort from Trevor, James, Phil,

A usability anecdote

2011-12-14 Thread David Kastrup
Hi, I just took the material from URL:http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/prelude/prelude.html and took a look of how the current developer version may help in making things nicer to a user. There is a lot in there (and I think it will make an appearance in the next LilyPond report) but one thing

Re: Markup module patch (Issue 2026)

2011-12-14 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Ian Hulin i...@hulin.org.uk wrote: I pulled out and tested the examples in separate .ly file and the format that fails is #(define-markup-command (double-box layout props text) (markup?)  Draw a double box around text.  (interpret-markup layout props    

Re: A usability anecdote

2011-12-14 Thread Colin Campbell
On 11-12-14 04:51 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Hi, I just took the material from URL:http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/prelude/prelude.html and took a look of how the current developer version may help in making things nicer to a user. There is a lot in there (and I think it will make an appearance

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Federico Bruni
2011/12/14 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: 2. the old lilypond.org/web/ pages are still up (and probably still in google's cache), various links point to those, which gives the impression that our project died 3 years ago or something. Some of that work needs to be done by you, me,

Re: Markup module patch (Issue 2026)

2011-12-14 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Ian Hulin i...@hulin.org.uk wrote: I pulled out and tested the examples in separate .ly file and the format that fails is #(define-markup-command (double-box layout props text) (markup?)  Draw a double box around

Re: A usability anecdote

2011-12-14 Thread David Kastrup
Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca writes: On 11-12-14 04:51 AM, David Kastrup wrote: made Lilypond complain. convert-ly was able to fix this and produced: \midi { \context { \Score tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 80 4) } } That is not particularly

Build fixes for translated manuals: dependencies and a typo (issue 5477088)

2011-12-14 Thread graham
LGTM. Could you send me the final patch so I can push to staging immediately? http://codereview.appspot.com/5477088/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Don't blindly issue the warning (issue 5477087)

2011-12-14 Thread graham
LGTM, but I'm not confident enough about this patch to circumvent our review process, so please wait for it to go through a normal countdown. If a tex guru (like David, Werner, or Reinhold) says it's good, I'm willing to push it to staging directly. http://codereview.appspot.com/5477087/

Re: Build fixes for translated manuals: dependencies and a typo (issue 5477088)

2011-12-14 Thread Julien Rioux
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:54 PM, gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: LGTM.  Could you send me the final patch so I can push to staging immediately? http://codereview.appspot.com/5477088/ Sure, here it is. Please test make doc before pushing. Regards, Julien From

Re: Build fixes for translated manuals: dependencies and a typo (issue 5477088)

2011-12-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 04:04:07PM +0100, Julien Rioux wrote: Sure, here it is. Please test make doc before pushing. Nah, no need. I've pushed it to origin/staging, which undergoes a complete build (binaries, regtests, doc) from scratch every 6 hours. If there's no problems, it's automatically

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 03:01:23PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: Which kind of work is involved? python scripts. There's an issue about it on the tracker? Probably not. I've pretty much abandoned adding Frog items, really, since nobody pays attention to them. I can find just this:

Re: Don't blindly issue the warning (issue 5477087)

2011-12-14 Thread reinhold . kainhofer
LGTM. In particular, it's a good idea to call communicate() before checking the returncode, because communicate ensures that the returncode is set... http://codereview.appspot.com/5477087/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/12/14 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: That does not seem the problem here. I still see these messages. You can produce a minimal PDF from { c' } %END and try launching it into evince. If it shows messages, send it to me. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org ,

Re: lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Francisco Vila wrote: 2011/12/14 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: That does not seem the problem here. I still see these messages. You can produce a minimal PDF from { c' } %END and try launching it into evince. If it shows messages, send it to me. OK.

Re: lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/12/14 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Francisco Vila wrote: 2011/12/14 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: That does not seem the problem here. I still see these messages. You can produce a minimal PDF from  { c' } %END and try launching it

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Julien Rioux
On 14/12/2011 10:21 AM, Graham Percival wrote: It would be nice if you adding the above to that tracker issue. Done. -- Julien ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel