Re: [talk] easy tuplets

2012-09-27 Thread Keith OHara
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:51:43 -0700, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2012/9/24 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: Seriously though, i think this syntax would be very useful for algorithmic composers and computer programs manipulating Lily code. Another advantage is code

Re: Adds tick mark to scripts (issue 6568055)

2012-09-27 Thread lemzwerg
LGTM. http://codereview.appspot.com/6568055/diff/1/mf/feta-scripts.mf File mf/feta-scripts.mf (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6568055/diff/1/mf/feta-scripts.mf#newcode1774 mf/feta-scripts.mf:1774: set_char_box (0, 1.7 staff_space# + epsilon, I suggest to use a tightest bounding box. At

Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2012 14:45, schrieb Thomas Morley: [...] Hi Marc, an idea, don't know if it's really helpful: From 2.16.0-bar-line.scm, bar-glyph-alist: The old definition of bar empty was: (empty . (() . ())) The old definition of bar was: ( . ( . )) With regard to that, I have to make a

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 26.09.2012 14:45, schrieb Thomas Morley: [...] Hi Marc, an idea, don't know if it's really helpful: From 2.16.0-bar-line.scm, bar-glyph-alist: The old definition of bar empty was: (empty . (() . ())) The old definition of bar was: ( . ( . )) With

Re: Project - Eliminating grob parents and, outside-staff-priority

2012-09-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson
On 09/27/2012 08:36 AM, lilypond-devel-requ...@gnu.org wrote: A typical example of this is NoteCollision of N NoteColumns. The NoteColumns have to all move in a coordinated way, and the easiest way is to have a function (with local variables) that determines what has to happen. You might get

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 27.09.2012 09:10, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 26.09.2012 14:45, schrieb Thomas Morley: [...] Hi Marc, an idea, don't know if it's really helpful: From 2.16.0-bar-line.scm, bar-glyph-alist: The old definition of bar empty was: (empty . (() . ())) The old

Re: [talk] easy tuplets

2012-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net writes: On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:51:43 -0700, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2012/9/24 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: Seriously though, i think this syntax would be very useful for algorithmic composers and computer programs manipulating

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 27.09.2012 09:10, schrieb David Kastrup: or finally defining an empty stencil glyph: \defineBarLine | | x | (note that is not the same as x, as Harm explained; draws a stencil with zero width, X would draw *no* stencil at all). What do we need a

Re: Project - Eliminating grob parents and, outside-staff-priority

2012-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se writes: On 09/27/2012 08:36 AM, lilypond-devel-requ...@gnu.org wrote: A typical example of this is NoteCollision of N NoteColumns. The NoteColumns have to all move in a coordinated way, and the easiest way is to have a function (with local variables)

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: I have to make a distinction between and '() in the new bar line interface. What do you think would be better: using a symbol instead of '(), so one can write \defineBarLine | | 'none | or using #f instead:

Re: Doc: Improve documentation of \glissando. (issue 6529043)

2012-09-27 Thread tdanielsmusic
A new patch has been uploaded to a new issue, number 6567059, as I do not own this one. Werner: could you close this issue please. http://codereview.appspot.com/6529043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Adds tick mark to scripts (issue 6568055)

2012-09-27 Thread PhilEHolmes
http://codereview.appspot.com/6568055/diff/1/mf/feta-scripts.mf File mf/feta-scripts.mf (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6568055/diff/1/mf/feta-scripts.mf#newcode1774 mf/feta-scripts.mf:1774: set_char_box (0, 1.7 staff_space# + epsilon, Are you suggesting deleting the epsilon, or moving

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/9/27 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: I have to make a distinction between and '() in the new bar line interface. What do you think would be better: using a symbol instead of '(), so one can write \defineBarLine

Re: Adds tick mark to scripts (issue 6568055)

2012-09-27 Thread janek . lilypond
Hi, thanks for including me in reviewers, Phil - i would probably miss it otherwise. The shape is ok. Personally i would make the right arm a tad thicker and a bit less curved, but that's only my opinion. As for the bounding box, i definitely think that it should be moved, both horizontally

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes: 2012/9/27 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: What do we need a zero width stencil for? Silly answer, to get the regtests correct. :) More serious, a zero width stencil will be considered during spacing. Yes, but what do we need that for? Look

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: But I don't think we advertise \bar for anything except introducing optional breakpoints in the middle of a bar. Why would we want additional space then? The spacing of an optional breakpoint should not be different from

Re: Adds tick mark to scripts (issue 6568055)

2012-09-27 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: janek.lilyp...@gmail.com To: philehol...@googlemail.com; lemzw...@googlemail.com; gra...@percival-music.ca; d...@gnu.org Cc: re...@codereview-hr.appspotmail.com; lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Adds tick mark to

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: But I don't think we advertise \bar for anything except introducing optional breakpoints in the middle of a bar. Why would we want additional space then? The spacing of an

Re: [talk] easy tuplets

2012-09-27 Thread Benkő Pál
Well, music argument after left-out optional argument at the current point of time means closed music. It is likely a safe bet that we rarely need a single note for a tuplet, so it is not much of a problem, and I am chugging away at getting the closed music thing scrapped, but that's still a

Re: [talk] easy tuplets

2012-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Benkő Pál benko@gmail.com writes: Well, music argument after left-out optional argument at the current point of time means closed music. It is likely a safe bet that we rarely need a single note for a tuplet, so it is not much of a problem, and I am chugging away at getting the closed

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:43 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: But why would we want it when writing \break? Where is the point in fixing a problem by making a loosely related command act as a workaround? Do you mean we shouldn't need to write \bar to have \break work anywhere we want?

Re: Adds tick mark to scripts (issue 6568055)

2012-09-27 Thread lemzwerg
Please don't use `epsilon' in set_char_box. I think the problem is that you `sharpen' a coordinate distance by doing `define_pixels (y_off)', however, only `black distances' (to use the TrueType vocabulary) like vertical or horizontal stem widths should be handled like that. In general, I would

Re: Uses horizontal skylines in accidental placement (issue 6489086)

2012-09-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: OK - I'll be able to fix all the broken stuff on Monday or Tuesday. Whoah, this was pushed and i didn't notice anything... and

Re: Adds tick mark to scripts (issue 6568055)

2012-09-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: Horizontally, i would align the center of the bounding box to the dip point. This would allow visual centering of the glyph on something. Can do. This would imply that there's empty space on the left of the glyph. Is

Re: [GLISS] basics

2012-09-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote: On 26/09/12 09:19, Janek Warchoł wrote: This is a good idea in itself, but i'm afraid we'll drown in the flood of suggestions if we ask this question now. Currently we want to focus on syntax alone.

Re: [GLISS] basics

2012-09-27 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 27/09/12 16:44, Janek Warchoł wrote: oh yes, that's on my list of difficult to express things for more than a year. Reading Keith Stone's contemporary music examples, you'll see there's a similar issue for glissandi with a terminating pitch ... :-)

Re: [talk] easy tuplets

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Joseph, On 25/09/12 16:43, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On 24/09/12 18:27, David Kastrup wrote: I don't like it since it does not match musical concepts. You would not talk about 12th notes to other musicians. That's not entirely true. Contemporary composers (I think Ferneyhough

Re: [talk] easy tuplets

2012-09-27 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 25/09/12 18:03, James wrote: PAH! I bet Mike Solo would eat Ferneyhough for breakfast If you mean Mike Solomon then yes, his scores engraved with Lilypond are mightily impressive. :-) ... but for the problem at hand -- in the scores I've seen, he doesn't use the complex nested tuplets

Re: [talk] easy tuplets

2012-09-27 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 27/09/12 19:15, Ian Hulin wrote: It's slightly off-topic from Graham's original proposition in the thread base-message, which was restricted to multiple-of-two/multiples-of three type duplets. This part of the thread has strayed beyond extra valid values for durations, and we've strayed into

Re: Uses horizontal skylines in accidental placement (issue 6489086)

2012-09-27 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 27 sept. 2012, at 13:56, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: OK - I'll be able to fix all the broken stuff on Monday

Re: [talk] easy tuplets

2012-09-27 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 27/09/12 21:06, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: From my Suite Post Algorithmica. I stand corrected, and rather amused :-) ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Patchy report

2012-09-27 Thread grenouille
21:58:01 (UTC) Begin LilyPond compile, previous commit at 9de1c7467d9fceec1150156236b50bd7c668185a 21:58:23 Merged staging, now at:9de1c7467d9fceec1150156236b50bd7c668185a 21:58:27Success:sudo -u lilybuild ./autogen.sh --noconfigure 21:59:05Success:

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2: New bar line definition standard (issue 6498052)

2012-09-27 Thread ianhulin44
Apart from a typo in changes.tely (q.v.), LGTM. http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/24001/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/24001/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode67 Documentation/changes.tely:67: as

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2: New bar line definition standard (issue 6498052)

2012-09-27 Thread thomasmorley65
One tiny addition: http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/24001/scm/bar-line.scm File scm/bar-line.scm (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/24001/scm/bar-line.scm#newcode1053 scm/bar-line.scm:1053: (define-bar-line :|] :|] #f |) When we provide a bracket-repeat-sign for

PATCH: Countdown to 20120930

2012-09-27 Thread Colin Campbell
For 20:00 MDT (later if there's a Gospel Hymn Sing!) Sunday September 30 Enhancement: Issue 2717 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2717: Implement \single for converting overrides to tweaks - R 6495135 http://codereview.appspot.com/6495135/ Issue 2859

Re: Issue 2717: Implement \single for converting overrides to tweaks (issue 6495135)

2012-09-27 Thread janek . lilypond
i don't feel competent to speak about scheme code, but the idea LGTM. http://codereview.appspot.com/6495135/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Uses horizontal skylines in accidental placement (issue 6489086)

2012-09-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thursday, September 27, 2012, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: On 27 sept. 2012, at 13:56, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: Um, Mike, i've just checked and current master has many cases of bad accidental placement - many accidentals are too close to each other. For example, es'

Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-27 Thread janek . lilypond
sorry to join the discussion so late... what about using \no for turning stencil off? e.g. \new Voice \with { \no StringNumber } As for the code, it LGTM. http://codereview.appspot.com/6575048/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-27 Thread dak
Reviewers: janek, Message: On 2012/09/28 05:18:42, janek wrote: sorry to join the discussion so late... what about using \no for turning stencil off? e.g. \new Voice \with { \no StringNumber } As for the code, it LGTM. It is grammatically cuter in connection with \with, but that's

Re: Uses horizontal skylines in accidental placement (issue 6489086)

2012-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: There were three patchsets (maybe more). If it looks catastrophic, I trust you - just revert it in staging and send me a short example w/ the regression and I'll work on it. It looks to me that this patch is way past staging, so i'm