Re: Doc: extend description of glissandi (2844) (issue 6567059)

2012-09-29 Thread tdanielsmusic
Reviewers: benko.pal, Message: On 2012/09/28 07:52:32, benko.pal wrote: what about an example like \afterGrace f1\glissando f'16 ? Done - thanks! Description: Doc: extend description of glissandi (2844) Add examples of - connecting notes across staves - connecting notes in chords

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 17:40, schrieb d...@gnu.org: On 2012/09/28 15:06:38, janek wrote: On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:30 AM, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: I must be in a controversial mood today since I feel like upholding the idea. I had been thinking about it while fetching breakfast and eating and

Re: Project - Eliminating grob parents and outside-staff-priority

2012-09-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:40 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes: In order to do cache invalidation, you will have to construct the reverse graph. If A.x depends on B.y, now A points to B. For proper cache invalidation, if B.y changes, then A.x

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 28.09.2012 17:40, schrieb d...@gnu.org: hmm... not quite perfect. No other idea, though... \here misses the relation to the next item (not that \single is much better). \directly was nicer in that regard. \next would possibly also work. Having to

Re: Error tracking through the log files [was: Re: Compilation errorwith page-breaking-page-count3.ly]

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 12:24, schrieb Phil Holmes: - Original Message - From: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Error tracking through the log files [was: Re: Compilation errorwith page-breaking-page-count3.ly] [...]

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2: New bar line definition standard (issue 6498052)

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 07:11, schrieb k-ohara5...@oco.net: Looks good so far. In one pdf previewer (evince) at low resolution, the span bars look a little thicker than the regular bar lines. Maybe a rounding fault of the viewer, but it would be better if you know how to avoid it. If you zoom it, this

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 11:01, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 28.09.2012 17:40, schrieb d...@gnu.org: hmm... not quite perfect. No other idea, though... \here misses the relation to the next item (not that \single is much better). \directly was nicer in that regard.

Re: Project - Eliminating grob parents and outside-staff-priority

2012-09-29 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 29 sept. 2012, at 10:59, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:40 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes: In order to do cache invalidation, you will have to construct the reverse graph. If A.x depends on B.y, now A

Re: Project - Eliminating grob parents and outside-staff-priority

2012-09-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: On 29 sept. 2012, at 10:59, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:40 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes: In order to do cache

Re: Eliminate MARKUP_IDENTIFIER and MARKUPLIST_IDENTIFIER (issue 6561053)

2012-09-29 Thread dak
Reviewers: janek, Message: On 2012/09/28 06:22:40, janek wrote: The description looks really nice, but unfortunately i think i don't grasp the consequences of this change. Could you give some before/after input examples? Embarrassingly, not really. The point of this change is to move

Re: Eliminate MARKUP_IDENTIFIER and MARKUPLIST_IDENTIFIER (issue 6561053)

2012-09-29 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 3:10 PM, d...@gnu.org wrote: Embarrassingly, not really. The point of this change is to move forward in removing the special-casing of various *_IDENTIFIER token types. The target is to arrive at only a single SCM_IDENTIFIER type. Once that is achieved, it is no

Re: Eliminate MARKUP_IDENTIFIER and MARKUPLIST_IDENTIFIER (issue 6561053)

2012-09-29 Thread dak
On 2012/09/29 13:37:28, janek wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 3:10 PM, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: Embarrassingly, not really. The point of this change is to move forward in removing the special-casing of various *_IDENTIFIER token types. The target is to arrive at only a single

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 29.09.2012 11:01, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 28.09.2012 17:40, schrieb d...@gnu.org: hmm... not quite perfect. No other idea, though... \here misses the relation to the next item (not that \single is much better).

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2868 in lilypond: Patch: Various clean-ups in stems and beams.

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 17:01, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Comment #1 on issue 2868 by mts...@gmail.com: Patch: Various clean-ups in stems and beams. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2868#c1 Various clean-ups in stems and beams. *) Eliminates code dups for Kievan work. *)

Re: Eliminate MARKUP_IDENTIFIER and MARKUPLIST_IDENTIFIER (issue 6561053)

2012-09-29 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 4:30 PM, d...@gnu.org wrote: Actually, it is not really simplifying the grammar. At the current point of time, the lexer has to make decisions about the type of identifiers (and functions) at a point of time where those decisions are actually premature. As a result

Re: Project - Eliminating grob parents and outside-staff-priority

2012-09-29 Thread Keith OHara
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanwenn at gmail.com writes: I think it is a much clearer abstraction to decide that each property can only be evaluated once, and that everything should be driven by callbacks. In fact, one thing I would suggest looking at is removing {before,after}_line_breaking which

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-29 Thread Laura Conrad
David == David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: \bar inserts an empty stencil, so the padding around the (invisible) bar line is preserved. David Yes, I understood that. But what do we need that for? For the Renaissance music I transcribe, the composers weren't thinking in bar

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread janek . lilypond
Too bad that \delete is taken... Maybe using \no is the right choice, although i'd prefer to make this decision after GLISS decides that we don't need \no for something else. As for \single vs. \next, i don't have a strong opinion. Janek http://codereview.appspot.com/6575048/

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 18:39, schrieb Laura Conrad: David == David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: \bar inserts an empty stencil, so the padding around the (invisible) bar line is preserved. David Yes, I understood that. But what do we need that for? For the Renaissance music I

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-09-29 09:47 AM, David Kastrup wrote: I am not convinced. Unless I see either a new proposal that I feel I can get behind myself, or more prominent public support for one of the numerous existing proposals including \next, I am going to stick with \single. Since by far the easiest time to

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 18:54, schrieb Colin Campbell: On 12-09-29 09:47 AM, David Kastrup wrote: I am not convinced. Unless I see either a new proposal that I feel I can get behind myself, or more prominent public support for one of the numerous existing proposals including \next, I am going to stick

Re: [GLISS] facilitate changes of the (default-) drumStyleTable

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 27.09.2012 00:32, schrieb Thomas Morley: 2012/9/26 Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de: I like the idea of giving the user the ability to change only parts of the list without having to rewrite the full list; I think that this concept could be of use in other parts of lilypond as well, Hi Marc,

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-29 Thread Laura Conrad
Marc == Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: I hope that the new interface both makes more sense than the old one, and still allows me to set barless music without ugly gaps where the bar lines aren't. Marc Hmmm - with the new interface, nonexistent bar lines are not Marc

Re: Adds tick mark to scripts (issue 6568055)

2012-09-29 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hmm. My answer to how would we place the glyph at the correct vertical position, above the barline? is: i suppose that we're going to create a \tickBreathe command; if so, i guess that defining it in this manner tickBreathe = { \override BreathingSign #'outside-staff-priority = something

Re: Project - Eliminating grob parents and outside-staff-priority

2012-09-29 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 29 sept. 2012, at 18:34, Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys hanwenn at gmail.com writes: I think it is a much clearer abstraction to decide that each property can only be evaluated once, and that everything should be driven by callbacks. In fact, one thing I would

Re: Adds tick mark to scripts (issue 6568055)

2012-09-29 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: James pkx1...@gmail.com; lilypond-devel@gnu.org; d...@gnu.org; lemzw...@googlemail.com; re...@codereview-hr.appspotmail.com; philehol...@googlemail.com Sent: Saturday, September

Re: Project - Eliminating grob parents and outside-staff-priority

2012-09-29 Thread Keith OHara
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:30:32 -0700, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: The way you're using tentative is almost exactly how pure properties are used in LilyPond. Specifically, 'pure-height being the estimated vertical extent before line-breaking, while 'height is its extent

Re: Project - Eliminating grob parents and outside-staff-priority

2012-09-29 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 29 sept. 2012, at 19:53, Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:30:32 -0700, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: The way you're using tentative is almost exactly how pure properties are used in LilyPond. Specifically, 'pure-height being the

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 19:05, schrieb Laura Conrad: Marc == Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: I hope that the new interface both makes more sense than the old one, and still allows me to set barless music without ugly gaps where the bar lines aren't. Marc Hmmm - with the new

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs(issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:47 PM Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 29.09.2012 11:01, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 28.09.2012 17:40, schrieb d...@gnu.org: hmm... not quite perfect. No other idea, though... \here misses the

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs(issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:47 PM Since by far the easiest time to press a change is before a first version is installed, people should speak up now if they feel that c' \next \easyHeadsOn e' g' is significantly better than

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2: New bar line definition standard (issue 6498052)

2012-09-29 Thread k-ohara5a5a
On 2012/09/29 09:14:08, marc wrote: Am 29.09.2012 07:11, schrieb k-ohara5...@oco.net: In one pdf previewer (evince) at low resolution, the span bars look a little thicker than the regular bar lines. Disregard. The slight mis-rendering on screen was there before your patch as well.

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2: New bar line definition standard (issue 6498052)

2012-09-29 Thread k-ohara5a5a
Now looking at the log files, I do get undead errors for our regression test 'bar-line-define-bar-glyph.ly' but not from any other files that I tried. (I don't know why the scripts from `make check` did not flag it.) There are four messages, but the particular undead objects vary from run to

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs(issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I prefer \single to \next. \justOne \onlyOne ? It is, in a way, a complement to \once, so I would want to avoid multiple-word approaches leading to CamelCase. Had someone already suggested \here? Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Regularize lyrics lexer mode (issue 6594047)

2012-09-29 Thread lemzwerg
LGTM. http://codereview.appspot.com/6594047/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: GUB commands not running

2012-09-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:43:25AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Either lilypond.make has changed (only one change in the past two years: https://github.com/gperciva/gub/commit/dd2f4077f5f818a6f689b0f4a795bacb92dcb8ae