Re: Tracks old announcements, news and changelogs. (issue 5843069)

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:22:59PM +0100, Julien Rioux wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:12 AM, gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Awesome work as always.  There's some unintended (and bad) changes to GNUmakefile.in. That's a mistake when I uploaded (pointing to the wrong commit in git-cl

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:11:21AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: But hey, it's my job to teach them at whatever level they're at, right? Nope. It is your job to teach them from the level they should have left high school with. After two

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 06:36:43AM -0600, Colin Campbell wrote: On 12-03-23 12:28 AM, Graham Percival wrote: We need a *secretary*. We need a *paper pusher*. We need a trained monkey. I could take it on, Graham, especially if the countdown process gets automated. I read -user, -devel

Re: casual contributors

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 08:06:23PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Engineering student numbers have dropped significantly at my former university, and it is to be expected that standards were adjusted downwards in order to get enough students back (we have state education almost exclusively, but

Re: volunteer for patchy new-patches

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:31:20PM +0100, Marek Klein wrote: I've succeeded in building lilypond. :) test-patches.py says: No new patches to test. What are my next steps? I've just set issue 2216 to Patch-new, so try running it again. - Graham

Re: volunteer for patchy new-patches

2012-03-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:42:54PM +0100, Marek Klein wrote: Exception: Command 'git fetch' returned non-zero exit status 128 error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database .git/objects fatal: failed to write object fatal: unpack-objects failed

casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-03-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 08:18:26AM +1100, Peter Chubb wrote: Hi Graham, Graham We don't really have a frog meister, so nobody is taking Graham responsibility for pushing I have another patch waiting, that depends on the first. Is there supposed to be a procedure for casual

Re: casual contributors (was: patch going unpushed)

2012-03-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:40:43PM +, James wrote: Graham We don't really have a frog meister, so nobody is taking Graham responsibility for pushing    I have another patch waiting, that depends on the first. https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel I've offered to

Re: Tracks old announcements, news and changelogs. (issue 5843069)

2012-03-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 04:41:34PM -0400, Julien Rioux wrote: Thanks for having a look. By the way, it looks like http://lilypond.org/website just replicates http://lilypong.org at a deeper level -- any reason why this is so? Is that from before the switch to the new website? Correct, but it

Re: volunteer for patchy new-patches

2012-03-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:48:57PM +0100, Marek Klein wrote: Exception: Failed runner: ./autogen.sh --noconfigure See the log file log-None-autogen.sh.txt Well, what's in the log file log-None-autgen.sh.txt ? It's in the build directory. This whole infrastructure assumes that you

Re: 2.16 release criteria

2012-03-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:06:42AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: I have the fear that the desire to get to this state might prompt some regression fixes that have not necessarily gotten all the diligence that would have been desirable. This is a valid fear in general, but I haven't seen it

Re: What's with the build directories?

2012-03-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 01:24:54PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: I find that in my patchy runs, I get directories /tmp/lilypond-autobuild (my configured build directory) and a hierarchy of build directories under it, possibly one per tested patch (?). nope, nothing to do with Patchy. ls

new lilypond-auto mailing list

2012-03-19 Thread Graham Percival
We have a new mailing list for automatic messages. No human emails are allowed; only whitelisted email addresses can send to the list. https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-auto Scripts whose output should be sent to this list include: - patchy staging-merge (both success and failure

Re: new lilypond-auto mailing list

2012-03-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:11:46AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: So instead of surprising volunteers by giving them more information than expected we give them less information than expected? Bug squad members shouldn't be reading tracker messages anyway.

Re: How to run GUB

2012-03-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:15:20PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: # A general rule: do not interrupt a build. It seems to use file locks # as a way of controlling multi-cpu builds, and it can get confused # if interrupted. I've had to start from scratch in this case. :-( It's possible to

Re: Postscript printer errors with rounded barlines?

2012-03-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 07:38:29PM +, Keith OHara wrote: David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes: Prior Emails? Here : http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-07/msg00686.html The resulting patch solved the problem of thick barlines, but did not make it into version

Re: FW: [LilyPond] Your organization application has been rejected.

2012-03-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 05:53:57PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 3/16/12 11:44 AM, no-re...@google-melange.appspotmail.com no-re...@google-melange.appspotmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, we were unable to accept your organization's application at this time. If we are serious about doing this

volunteer for patchy new-patches

2012-03-16 Thread Graham Percival
I think it's high time for somebody else to run the new-patches test. For this task, David is ridiculously overqualified, but his laptop is pretty underqualified. That combination makes him almost the worst person to run this task. I'm hoping that this won't end up with James doing it; IMO even

Re: FW: [LilyPond] Your organization application has been rejected.

2012-03-16 Thread Graham Percival
PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: It might be good to wait a week to see what projects were accepted, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 ? Somebody on another venue pointed out that it'll take a few hours or days for the complete list to show

Re: volunteer for patchy new-patches

2012-03-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 09:52:52PM +0100, Marek Klein wrote: I can do it, I think (almost every day). Great! Here's the link to get started: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/patchy ... although apparently that doesn't include a link to the actual code. huh.

Re: volunteer for patchy new-patches

2012-03-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 05:28:21PM -0400, Julien Rioux wrote: On 16/03/2012 4:55 PM, Graham Percival wrote: ... although apparently that doesn't include a link to the actual code. huh. https://github.com/gperciva/lilypond-extra No? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor

Re: GNU accepted for GSOC (was: application has been rejected)

2012-03-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:16:10PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: I'll contact them asking to add us to their umbrella. Any suggestions before i do this? Prepare a blurb in the same format as their existing ones. Shall i talk with them about the number of students' slots (i guess we could ask

Re: Various updates to reduce make doc output (issue 5727055)

2012-03-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:59:53AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Please see http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2407. Great! Can I please now quieten this warning using the explicit command line switch --quiet? huh? I'm sorry, but I think this points to a different lesson. If we

Re: Various updates to reduce make doc output (issue 5727055)

2012-03-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:06:22PM +, Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:59:53AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Can I please now quieten this warning using the explicit command line switch --quiet? huh? I'm sorry, but I think this points to a different lesson. If we

Re: [patch] Fix mordents and pralltriller in articulate.ly

2012-03-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 01:39:11PM +, James wrote: I think this needs to be reviewed just like any other patch should be, why *would* we just push this? Well, I think this one is simple enough to push directly.

Re: Failed make doc for Patchy

2012-03-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 08:16:17PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: commit 65c8ce914c62117fb61a21237f7dcf80ebb0cc6e Make Score an initial Timing alias to allow for context mods But then I am pretty certain that I actually ran make info on that one to make reasonably sure it did not cause

Re: Failed make doc for Patchy

2012-03-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 07:45:39PM +, Graham Percival wrote: info will check if you can generate the internals reference, i.e. with scm/documentation-generate.scm. It won't call the lilypond binary to produce any output at all. No wait, I'm completely wrong. Sorry, I was thinking of make

font regression build regression

2012-03-14 Thread Graham Percival
Has anybody else seen a huge slow-down in building fonts? They used to whiz by on my screen in a minute or so, but now it takes about 10 minutes, and more to the point, it involves a massive amount of disk activity. My core2quad desktop couldn't play an mp3 file while building fonts with -j3 !

Re: font regression build regression

2012-03-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 08:00:44PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:59 PM Subject: font regression build regression Has anybody else seen a huge slow-down

Re: Failed make doc for Patchy

2012-03-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:27:52PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: And the MacOSX /bin/sh is the first shell I heard of that does not grok echo -n. ... If this may not be true, `printf' is in general safer and easier to use than `echo' and `echo -n'. This matches the open group

Re: [patch] Fix mordents and pralltriller in articulate.ly

2012-03-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:25:40PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Well, I think this one is simple enough to push directly. Shall i do this? And shall i not ask next time? ;) If you are certain

Re: Fix mordents and pralltriller in articulate.ly (issue 5784084)

2012-03-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 02:49:29PM +1100, Peter Chubb wrote: graham == graham gra...@percival-music.ca writes: graham ok. In the future, when updating a patch, please point git-cl graham at your existing issue (which was orginally 2404, but I'm graham going to close 2404 and 2405 and

Re: Various updates to reduce make doc output (issue 5727055)

2012-03-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:31:35PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: julien.ri...@gmail.com To: philehol...@googlemail.com; d...@gnu.org; gra...@percival-music.ca; m...@philholmes.net Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org; re...@codereview-hr.appspotmail.com Sent: Monday,

Re: GUB success?

2012-03-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:10:41PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: I think I have GUB running properly. I gave up trying to get it working on 64-bit Ubuntu and created a new VirtualBox VM with lilydev 1.1 as the OS. Are you sure you mean lilydev 1.1 and not 1.2 ? I have documented what I did for

Re: GUB success?

2012-03-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 04:19:24PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net Cc: Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:30 PM Subject: Re: GUB success? On Sun, Mar 11

lilypond 2.15.33 kind-of a release candidate

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
LilyPond 2.15.30 is out; this is not a actual release candidate but it can be considered as an unofficial candidate. All users are invited to experiment with this version. New features since 2.14.2 are listed in the “Changes” manual on the website section about Development.

dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
lilypad will not work on osx 10.4 x86. It works on 10.4 ppc. I do not consider bugs in osx-10.4 x86 to be release-critical; they should be filed as normal type-build bugs. Somebody may want to update the download page accordingly to avoid giving users the wrong impression. If somebody can make

Re: dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:51:20PM +, Graham Percival wrote: If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to officially support it again in the future. However, I think that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense. oops, I should delay all emails by 5

Re: Git problem

2012-03-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 05:24:51PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: One thought. Some issues are best verified by checking lily output - http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2246 for example. Can we break a normal rule and check these against a newly made binary? What we'd then be

Re: Bad translation merge

2012-03-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 01:58:24PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: I can reproduce the problems when merging. It would appear that the history of the translation branch got messed up at some point of time in a manner that git can't recognize how to merge

Re: Bad translation merge

2012-03-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 05:27:08PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: As an improvement to patchy, wouldn't it be better for patchy to test for a stop-patchy branch and abort if it finds one? Then all that would be necessary to suspend the cron job would be to create a branch with that name. No; if

Re: Google Summer of Code, LilyPond and GNU

2012-03-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 01:22:42PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: What happens about the tax form?  I'm not signing any legal document unless I'm certain it's the right thing.  Is GNU submitting that foreign

old web pages

2012-03-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:01:44PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Oh, by the way, Google's first hit for LilyPond download is URL:http://lilypond.org/web/install/ which states When we have whetted your appetite for LilyPond, then this is the right page. Unfortunately, it is the wrong page since

Re: Patchy up and running now

2012-03-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 11:00:38AM +, James wrote: Francisco 15 * * * * cd /home/james/lilypond-git python /home/james/patchy/lilypond-patchy-staging.py cron ignores your ~/.profile, ~/.bashrc, etc. Remember that shell script I sent you a few month ago, along with my sample config

Re: MacOS X development and support

2012-03-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 07:45:35AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com Let's drop Lilypad. It's getting in the way of regular releases. Disagree. Disagree. I'm with Colin. I've

Re: MacOS X development and support

2012-03-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 11:08:38AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: As far as I understand, in spite of the initial activities of core LilyPond developers, LilyPad is basically an external application that we just wrap and don't actively codevelop (meaning that its overlap with actual LilyPond

Re: Pushing someone else's patch

2012-03-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:16:11PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: I'd like to push Reinhold's patch at http://codereview.appspot.com/5674101/ but don't want to usurp ownership. If I look at the patch on Reitveld, there's no identification information. Is there any way to get this from Reitveld to

Re: Google Summer of Code, LilyPond and GNU

2012-03-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 10:48:28PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva pita...@members.fsf.org wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 23:56 +, Graham Percival wrote: Hmm. My instinct would be to try it separately, anyway. We're not the size

Re: Patchy up and running now

2012-03-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 08:10:59AM +, James wrote: Anyway, I'm back at home this evening and will have a few more test runs (with cron just to make sure I can leave it unattended) and then by Monday I should be running 'lilypond-patchy-staging.py' as often as people want me to. Any

Re: broken GUB doc

2012-03-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 11:36:37AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Patch attached. Thanks, pushed. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Patch to GUB to fix Issue 2373

2012-03-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 11:52:04AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: This GUB patch should take the shortcut with the non-existent target out of the windows build. Untested, because I can't, but I believe it's correct. I'm not entirely comfortable pushing patches that are untested unless they're

Re: Patch to GUB to fix Issue 2373

2012-03-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 02:57:44PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Please send a new patch with the subject Remove mingw shortcut to examples, or Remove windows shortcut to examples, or something along those lines

Re: MacOS X development and support

2012-03-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 12:36:13AM +, Colin Hall wrote: Development of code specific to the MacOS X platforms, especially Lilypad, is slow. Yes-ish. We don't have a lot of osx-specific code, and unless there's plans to make lilypad-osx fancier, we don't really need any more code. We

Re: regular patchy staging

2012-03-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 09:56:33AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: I still have some fundamental questions about the scripts. Have you read http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/patchy ? GrahamDavid, when i said

Re: Bugreports section commit

2012-03-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 03:08:27PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: This removes all mention of users being able to add comments to bug reports. It's still mentioned under step 4, so I didn't complain during the countdown. But after glancing at the final output, http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html

broken GUB doc

2012-03-03 Thread Graham Percival
At some point in the build, it dies with this: .git-release-unstable/out-www/online-root/ . Instrumenting for Google Analytics Documentation/web/index.html Documentation/changes/index.html Documentation/notation/index.html Documentation/internals/index.html Traceback (most recent call last):

Re: broken GUB doc

2012-03-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 09:08:46PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: File test-lily/rsync-lily-doc.py, line 225, in module Interesting in so far as the last doc builds in the course of patchy were successful. Those are the lilypond make doc

Re: broken GUB doc

2012-03-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 09:15:46PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: @item If you're not the right user on the webserver, remove the @code{t} from the rsync command in: Have you tried doing the release as the right user on the webserver? That's only relevant for the upload. Despite the rsync in

Re: broken GUB doc

2012-03-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 09:34:54PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Well, the question is why its behavior would have bothered changing. Sure it is not a problem of user identity, or a parallel build, or user quota? * commit dd6232b71b9d1b1cfd6938608e6583fe54f93004 | Author: Phil Holmes

release candidate blocked due to issues to verify

2012-03-02 Thread Graham Percival
We now have zero Critical issues, so I'd like to have another release canddiate. Unfortunately, there is still at least one issue to verify in the list for 2.15.31, so I will not make a release. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=7 - Graham

Re: old source tarballs

2012-03-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:19:58PM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: We need to make more space on lilypond.org.  I've deleted binaries, documentation, and regtests from everything other than the first and last

Re: ghostscript in gub

2012-02-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:07:16AM -0800, Joe Neeman wrote: This patch allows me to build ghostscript in gub on Ubuntu 11.10. The problem is that ghostscript only looks for sys/types.h in /usr/include, whereas Ubuntu 11.10 has it in /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu. Thanks, pushed. I've checked

Re: text-input page: what about using SVG and switch element?

2012-02-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 09:47:46AM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: - browser support? http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php In 2007 Graham was against using SVG, because of limmited browser support: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2007-04/msg00087.html 5 years later,

old source tarballs

2012-02-27 Thread Graham Percival
We need to make more space on lilypond.org. I've deleted binaries, documentation, and regtests from everything other than the first and last release of a stable series. I'm going to do the same for the source tarballs, but I'll wait a few days in case anybody urgently wants to save them. This

simultaneous rehersal marks, tempo indication, and text marks

2012-02-27 Thread Graham Percival
At the moment, we can't have text and rehearsal marks at the same place, i.e. \relative c' { c1 \mark \default \mark play violently d } This can be faked by using a \tempo mark: \relative c' { c1 \mark \default \tempo play violently d } But if you want to display an actual

Re: GUB build problems

2012-02-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:01:21PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: Looking at the failed command, it appears to me that gcc_tooldir is wrong. There is no directory /usr/powerpc-apple-darwin7 I just tried a build from scratch on ubuntu 11.10 64-bit, and I have a possibly-related build failure:

Re: log files not deleted by doc-clean

2012-02-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 01:30:53PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Not sure if that's a good thing or not - it could be argued that you can go back and check them if they've not been deleted. I don't think they should be deleted as part of doc-clean or clean. If somebody wants to add a log-clean,

Re: Simplify font building. (issue 5695061)

2012-02-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 03:57:55PM +, julien.ri...@gmail.com wrote: This is good, I now get the error message right away when running configure. No problem with the patch after installing the required package. Do lilydev and gub already include the fontforge python package? No, and adding

Re: Simplify font building. (issue 5695061)

2012-02-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 04:50:21PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 2/25/12 9:23 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: No, and adding this to GUB will be particularly challenging. I'm afraid that this will probably postpone the patch indefinitely. :( Can't we add that package

Re: More reductions in make doc (issue 5694079)

2012-02-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 04:58:59PM +, philehol...@googlemail.com wrote: Pushes the output from making midi .ly files and ly-examples to logfiles - slightly more controversial - uses the run-and-check shell script to do this. What's supposed to be controversial here? Seems like an

Re: CG: add information about Regtest Checking Project (issue 5669047)

2012-02-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 09:51:31PM +, janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: I decided not to use @rglos and @rinternals (because from what i understand it would print the name of the section i'm referring to) but use @rglosnamed and @rinternalsnamed instead. I discourage (but not forbid) the use

Re: Simplify font building. (issue 5695061)

2012-02-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 02:06:46PM -0800, Joe Neeman wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Graham Percival [1]gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: No, and adding this to GUB will be particularly challenging. I'm afraid that this will probably postpone the patch indefinitely

Re: Rietveld patchy: test run

2012-02-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:47:59AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: It does not really make _any_ sense then to continue messing with master, I think. thanks, pushed. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: [frogs] Re: New frog in an empty pond?

2012-02-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 04:52:00PM -0800, Janek Warchol wrote: It would be good indeed if you have a mentor; unfortunately, i don't think you'll find one here, on frogs. It's hard to find a mentor in general... I'm not much Lily-knowledgeable, so i don't think i would be a good mentor for

Re: Rietveld patchy: test run

2012-02-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 04:55:06PM -0500, Julien Rioux wrote: On 15/02/2012 9:14 AM, Julien Rioux wrote: I modified Graham's Rietveld patchy to fix two issues: [...] This new version should be tested before I send a formal pull request. If anyone is interested I have gone through the

Re: CG: add information about Regtest Checking Project (issue 5669047)

2012-02-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:24:22PM +, janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: Could you help me with links to music glossary and internals? Julien wrote that they are wrong, and i don't know how they should be done (and i'm really busy so if you can save me 15 minutes of searching i'd be

Re: 2.16 release candidate 3 out

2012-02-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:46:28AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2012/2/17 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: - nobody touches the release/unstable branch, than translators,  who may merge with that if they want to and don't break  anything. oops, that should have read other than

Re: GSoC - continue: answer to Google's question

2012-02-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 09:57:34AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: If so, there's no problem. But I would doubt that they have such a policy -- and getting the FSF investigated due to tax evasion or something would suck. I like to be extra

Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 08:49:21PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Uh, Graham? Just fixed another regression discovered by an LSR failure and pushed to staging. It would appear that this needs to be in 2.16 according to our policies. Well, there's already 2 Critical issues, and I think that 2335

Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:40:26PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: I just bungled staging with bad Texinfo in a regtest and saw that you merged into it right after that, presumably because of a release. I can either replace the merge (it will no longer have the same commit id) or throw it out

Re: GSoC - continue: answer to Google's question

2012-02-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:39:28PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: I think FSF/GNU project can and has acted as organization in the past. I guess so. GSoC FAQ says this: 5. What tax related documentation is required

Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:57:54PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: oh, I see. That was actually a clean-up from 2.15.30, because the tag got lost because release/unstable didn't merge into master properly. (why? no clue; I just followed

Re: GSoC - continue: answer to Google's question

2012-02-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:53:52PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Maybe wait 12 hours in case somebody else wants to do it, then try to contact the FSF yourself.  Applications start tomorrow and only run

Re: CG updates

2012-02-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 03:09:44PM +, Colin Hall wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 02:54:39PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Check if the issue falls into any previous category given on the relevant checklists in Bug Squad checklists. If in doubt, add a new issue for a report.

Re: GUB won't finish make bootstrap

2012-02-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:53:35PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: I guess that's possible, but the gcc in GUB is 4.1.1, which I don't think had that code generation bug. It didn't, but don't you need to bootstrap? I obviously don't know GUB. GUB

2.16 release candidate 3 out

2012-02-17 Thread Graham Percival
I've released release candidate 3. There always seems to be confusion about this, so let's go over what this means: - activity on master goes on as normal. - nobody touches the release/unstable branch, than translators, who may merge with that if they want to and don't break anything. The

Re: GUB won't finish make bootstrap

2012-02-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:33:29PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: That said, I've never been able to build GUB on anything other than ubuntu 10.04. Are you using 11.10 ? I've definitely failed on that OS. Ubuntu 10.04, as implemented in lilydev. I've done it both as a VM and as a separate

GUB dblatex breaks compile

2012-02-16 Thread Graham Percival
GUB cannot build master: lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.15.30 cd ./out-test dblatex suffix-lyxml.xml Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/dblatex, line 10, in ? from contrib.debian.errorhandler import DebianHandler File

Re: make dist broken

2012-02-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:24:46AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2012/2/15 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Look, the make dist broken is just a subject line that I typed. Trust me, I really want to learn how to prevent dist problems caused by translations. Great! Download GUB

Re: GSoC - continue: answer to Google's question

2012-02-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 01:51:03PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: Why is your organization applying to participate in Google Summer of Code 2012? What do you hope to gain by participating? Most importantly: more contributors surely: new code also: spreading news about LilyPond,

Re: GUB dblatex breaks compile

2012-02-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 02:39:58PM +0100, Julien Rioux wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: The correct bugfix may be simply to update the version of dblatex in GUB, but that is rarely as simple as it sounds. Either fix your dblatex

Re: GUB dblatex breaks compile

2012-02-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 03:07:53PM +0100, Julien Rioux wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: GUB is an (almost)-complete separate beast.  It uses the base OS to build gcc/make/etc, but thereafter it compiles (almost) everything using only

Re: Looks like we are having a situation here.

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:46:38PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: test-patchy has the following to say: oops, sorry, I replied to your other message before noticing this one. [116]fatal error: cannot find font: `emmentaler-11' I believe that Mike has fixed this in his massive dev/skylines

make dist broken

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.15.30/Documentation/cs/included/GNUmakefile file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.15.30/Documentation/hu/included/GNUmakefile file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.15.30/Documentation/zh/included/GNUmakefile - Graham

Re: make dist broken

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 07:03:36PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Well - that's clearly down to my adding those files to .git. What does make dist do? It, or rather make distcheck, makes sure that the source tarball matches the actual source. But I don't know exactly what GUB calls, so don't

Re: make dist broken

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 07:14:53PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: So - presumably make dist creates the tarball, and as part of it, it calls make distcheck to compare the tarball with the source tree. Does that sound sensible? In normal unix packages, 'make dist' createa a tarball, then 'make

Re: Rietveld patchy: test run

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 03:14:38PM +0100, Julien Rioux wrote: Could someone familiar with patchy please locally replace their compile_lilypond_test.py file with the attached one and test it against the patches that are currently lining up for testing? To avoid leaving you hanging: - I am

Re: git repository for osx-lilypond

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 07:21:24PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: 1) gub needs to automatically set the lilypond version string from the lilypad source tarball to the current lilypond version, regardless of whether the lilypad source tarball is 0.4 or 0.6.1 I do not consider this

Re: Rietveld patchy: test run

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 08:08:42PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca (I recommend running Patchy as a separate user just in case stuff blows up) I kind of thought you were suggesting not experimenting with patchy-test

Re: Rietveld patchy: test run

2012-02-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 08:36:31PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca It's challenging to decide when I should nag people (or clarify the situation) or not. I thought you always erred on the side of nagging people

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