Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-10-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:26 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: It's likely a more important consideration to divide the Guile and LilyPond namespace rather than the LilyPond and user space. To wit, convert xxx = \something into #(define $xxx $something) I assume that this would mean

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-10-05 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:26 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: It's likely a more important consideration to divide the Guile and LilyPond namespace rather than the LilyPond and user space. To wit, convert xxx = \something into #(define

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-10-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:26 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: I assume that this would mean having to use #(define ) every time we wanted to define a variable/command (e.g. notes = { c d e } and red = \twear #'color #red). Huh? Why? I

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-10-04 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:25:17PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: For example, what about my hated idea of splitting namespaces of music fuctions and identifiers? I'm not fond of perl, but

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Nothing's stopping us from having the normal \commands (including both predefs and user-created and user-redefined), along with $commands (which is completely empty and available for any user definitions). I see

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-24 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Nothing's stopping us from having the normal \commands (including both predefs and user-created and user-redefined), along with $commands (which is completely

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-24 Thread Sue Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:20 AM On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:25:17PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: I don't want to differentiate between predefined and user-defined commands. That's certainly a consistent view to take, but it might be worth discussing that further

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:19:03AM +0100, Sue Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:20 AM That's certainly a consistent view to take, but it might be worth discussing that further at some point. If there's a separate namespace then I can't see any technical

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:25:17PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: For example, what about my hated idea of splitting namespaces of music fuctions and identifiers? I'm not fond of perl, but something like this is unambiguous: $F =

allowing \f and \F (was: [GLISS] - alternative viewpoint)

2012-09-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 07:56:52PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Distinguishing \f and \F while ignoring case is going to be a rather difficult operation. While I generally try to accommodate a lot of make that work requests, there are limits to what one can achieve when fighting not

Re: allowing \f and \F (was: [GLISS] - alternative viewpoint)

2012-09-15 Thread Keith OHara
Graham Percival graham at percival-music.ca writes: On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 07:56:52PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Distinguishing \f and \F while ignoring case is going to be a rather difficult operation. I agree that distinguishing \f and \F is difficult. However, if the

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I agree that distinguishing \f and \F is difficult. [...] I did not hear any serious desire to allow both \f and \F as distinct. Ugh, it seems that you haven't read my strong objections a few hours ago. To the contrary, the request was to accept (and complain) if we mistype \SlurDown

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-15 Thread Keith OHara
Werner LEMBERG wl at gnu.org writes: I did not hear any serious desire to allow both \f and \F as distinct. Ugh, it seems that you haven't read my strong objections a few hours ago. You mostly objected to LilyPond /ignoring/ case, for reasons that made sense. I guess you did say: the

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-15 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 07:56:52PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Distinguishing \f and \F while ignoring case is going to be a rather difficult operation. While I generally try to accommodate a lot of make that work requests, there are

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-15 Thread David Kastrup
Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net writes: Werner LEMBERG wl at gnu.org writes: Please no heuristics. By we I meant us humans in charge of the software. We humans would avoid choosing names like keySignature and KeySignature distinguished only by case. No question about that. Coming up

Re: allowing \f and \F

2012-09-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I did not hear any serious desire to allow both \f and \F as distinct. Ugh, it seems that you haven't read my strong objections a few hours ago. You mostly objected to LilyPond /ignoring/ case, for reasons that made sense. Oops, yes. Werner