Jonathan Kulp wrote Friday, June 12, 2009 8:59 PM
The .iso is finished uploading and is ready for testing by whoever
wants to
try it. Download here:
http://prodet.hu/bert/lilydev/lilybuntu.iso
It's 716 MB, so it won't fit on a CD. If you're using a virtual
machine you
don't have to worry
The only two problems I've yet to resolve are how to share files
with my Windows host
Create a directory in windows for that, let's say d:\Share
Then you go in VirtualBox, click on the virtual machine name and in
the menu Machine/Preferences.
Here you find shared directories where you can add
2009/11/22 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
The only two problems I've yet to resolve are how to share files
with my Windows host
I usually open the Places menu and choose 'connect to a host', this
opens a file browser on the host if you know its IP and select a
proper protocol. Sorry for
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 06:44:38PM +0100, Frédéric Bron wrote:
The only two problems I've yet to resolve are how to share files
with my Windows host
Create a directory in windows for that, let's say d:\Share
Then you go in VirtualBox, click on the virtual machine name and in
the menu
create a mount point:
$ mkdir /mnt/Share
then add the following line to /etc/fstab:
Share /mnt/Share vboxsf defaults 0 0
Hmm. Is there any way to have this pre-configured? i.e. tell
uses to create
C:\lilybuntu-share\
in windows (or create it for them), and have
In message
a9a39a210911221146u68f8e532q7bccfd5a7d809...@mail.gmail.com, Frédéric
Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org writes
create a mount point:
$ mkdir /mnt/Share
then add the following line to /etc/fstab:
Share /mnt/Share vboxsf defaults 0 0
Hmm. Is there any way to have this
Anthony W. Youngman wrote Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:06 PM
In message
a9a39a210911221146u68f8e532q7bccfd5a7d809...@mail.gmail.com,
Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org writes
create a mount point:
$ mkdir /mnt/Share
then add the following line to /etc/fstab:
Share /mnt/Share vboxsf defaults
Graham,
Yes, I have used VMWare before, but only very very briefly. I'm
downloading the `lilybuntu' iso at the moment, and will get back to you
after I have managed to run it (I'll keep a note of all my steps in
case anyone wants to repeat after me...).
Tim W.
Graham Percival wrote:
A quick update:
- tried Anjuta - couldn't import LilyPond
- tried KDevelop - there were problems with it regarding setting
different arguments to lilypond
- tried Eclipse CDT - after some tutorial about importing the project
Jonathan, only one issue:
- If a command is not found (like typing 'asdf' in the terminal window),
some python script is telling errors. Is that intentional?
Just for the record:
- On Asus EEE 901 KDevelop works very well using this VirtualBox +
LilyUbuntu setup, running on a pen drive.
- I
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
Jonathan, only one issue:
- If a command is not found (like typing 'asdf' in the terminal window),
some python script is telling errors. Is that intentional?
Can you post the terminal output from this? The only message I
see when I do this is as
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
Jonathan, only one issue:
- If a command is not found (like typing 'asdf' in the terminal
window), some python script is telling errors. Is that intentional?
Can you post the terminal output from this? The only message I see
when
Now I'm running lilybuntu in Sun VirtualBox from my pendrive. Successfully
built LilyPond, now I start playing with kdevelop.
Thanks for the fun.
Bert
Graham Percival wrote:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 04:44:30PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 6/13/09 11:39 PM, Bertalan Fodor
Bertalan Fodor wrote:
Now I'm running lilybuntu in Sun VirtualBox from my pendrive. Successfully
built LilyPond, now I start playing with kdevelop.
Thanks for the fun.
Bert
Cool! Thanks for testing, Bert. Did you get the Guest Additions
installed successfully?
Jon
--
Jonathan Kulp
Yes, that was a good idea. Now I'm gonna try this thing out on my Eee Pc. :)
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Bertalan Fodor wrote:
Now I'm running lilybuntu in Sun VirtualBox from my pendrive.
Successfully
built LilyPond, now I start playing with kdevelop.
Thanks for the fun.
Bert
Cool! Thanks for
In message 20090614225255.ga7...@nagi, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca writes
2) I don't know what the current favorite fancy IDE is, although
I'm fairly certain that Eclipse runs on Linux. I'm not certain if
that would actually be good for LilyPond, though -- does it
support C++ and
Well, Eclipse runs very well on my netbook with Atom and 2gb ram. But the cdt
is still very limited. Also its startup from the pen drive is too slop. But
kdevelop seems all right, which has ctags integration and looks up macro
definitions in a second.
Bert
...@gmail.com
Cc: Tim Wilkinson mu3...@yahoo.co.uk, lilypond-devel@gnu.org
lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: development on windows
On 6/13/09 8:43 AM, Bertalan Fodor lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
What tools can be used to develop? To debug, browse the source, etc?
Compiling: gcc
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 04:44:30PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 6/13/09 11:39 PM, Bertalan Fodor lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
I'm sure there are tools which would make it easier for us, simple not
hackers, but software engineers, grown up on Microsoft Visual Studio end
Eclipse. I
Graham Percival wrote:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 04:44:30PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 6/13/09 11:39 PM, Bertalan Fodor lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
I'm sure there are tools which would make it easier for us, simple not
hackers, but software engineers, grown up on Microsoft Visual
(again, I'm happy to dump whatever suggestions people throw at me
in the CG)
A very nice IDE with editor and debugger (the latter is really nice
IMHO) for python -- both available for Linux and Windows -- is Eric:
http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/
Werner
What tools can be used to develop? To debug, browse the source, etc?
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On 6/13/09 8:43 AM, Bertalan Fodor lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
What tools can be used to develop? To debug, browse the source, etc?
Compiling: gcc
Debugging: gdb
Guile/Scheme testing: guile
Browse the source: more, vi
Search the source: git grep
HTH,
Carl
message
From: Carl D. Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu
Sent: 13 Jun 2009 20:15 -06:00
To: Bertalan Fodor lilypondt...@organum.hu, Jonathan Kulp
jonlancek...@gmail.com
Cc: Tim Wilkinson mu3...@yahoo.co.uk, lilypond-devel@gnu.org
lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: development on windows
On 6
Hi,
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Graham Percival wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:50:15PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Success! Ok here's what I have:
lilybuntu.iso (717 MB)
And what's that when you gzip or bzip2 it? This could potentially
cut the network
On 6/11/09 4:50 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
The goal of this iso to make it usable on a virtualization tool. The
open source Sun VirtualBox can for example mount this as the virtual
hard disk.
Once it's ready maybe I can create
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
After making the .iso I tested it in Sun VirtualBox OSE and
everything worked perfectly. Here are the exact steps I followed
(see if you think they're noob-friendly enough):
1. Install the OS in VirtualBox, then restart the virtual machine
and log in
2. open a terminal
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:02:22PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Why not make a shell script that gets the lilypond source code, and make
that part of your distribution?
I'd thought of that but I don't yet know how to make a file appear in a
user's home directory,
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote:
Bert, if you send me ftp login info privately I can upload it to your
server. Maybe I can do it at the office in evening hours and it'll go a lot
faster. I only have 256K upload speed at home. :(
The .iso is
Tim, have you used VMware before? This should allow you to
compile LilyPond inside a virtual machine. I'm not certain what
the best way is to transfer the iso from Jonathan to you, though.
The goal of this iso to make it usable on a virtualization tool. The
open source Sun VirtualBox
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
Tim, have you used VMware before? This should allow you to
compile LilyPond inside a virtual machine. I'm not certain what
the best way is to transfer the iso from Jonathan to you, though.
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
The goal of this iso to make it usable on a virtualization tool. The
open source Sun VirtualBox can for example mount this as the virtual
hard disk.
Once it's ready maybe I can create a torrent? I've never done that
before but it's probably the best
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:50:15PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Success! Ok here's what I have:
lilybuntu.iso (717 MB)
And what's that when you gzip or bzip2 it? This could potentially
cut the network transfer by more than half.
Cheers,
- Graham
Hi,
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Graham Percival wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:50:15PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Success! Ok here's what I have:
lilybuntu.iso (717 MB)
And what's that when you gzip or bzip2 it? This could potentially
cut the network transfer by more than half.
Graham Percival wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:50:15PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Success! Ok here's what I have:
lilybuntu.iso (717 MB)
And what's that when you gzip or bzip2 it? This could potentially
cut the network transfer by more than half.
Cheers,
- Graham
I did bzip2
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:20:55PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Thanks Graham. There was a ton of stuff owned by root in the lybook-db/
directory. I tried your command to xarg rm -rf but it said permission denied
(even though I did it as sudo and typed the password).
Oh yeah... IIRC if you do
Graham Percival wrote:
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:20:55PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Thanks Graham. There was a ton of stuff owned by root in the lybook-db/
directory. I tried your command to xarg rm -rf but it said permission denied
(even though I did it as sudo and typed the password).
Oh
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 07:52:13PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Graham Percival wrote:
Tim, have you used VMware before? This should allow you to
compile LilyPond inside a virtual machine. I'm not certain what
the best way is to transfer the iso from Jonathan to you, though.
Once it's ready
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 10:43:56PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote:
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca
wrote:
Err... GUB stands for Grand Unified Binary. It was a play on
the GUT (Grand Unified Theory) of physics.
Interesting. So did the name evolve
Patrick McCarty wrote Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:43 AM
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Graham
Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 01:23:22AM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
Francisco Vila a écrit :
2009/6/6 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca:
Err... by run
Op zondag 07-06-2009 om 07:46 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Francisco
Vila:
whete BTW it also says
bin/gub - the Gub Universal Builder
this is just the one build script. I/we needed an U to make
the name bin/gub here ; possibly that's misleading.
I had the idea of adding
Graham Percival wrote Friday, June 05, 2009 11:19 AM
There's a surprising amount of interest in contributing to
LilyPond from Windows machines. (err, I mean, from people *with*
Windows machines, not from the actual machines themselves)
As I understand it, people with Windows can:
- run GUB
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Graham Percival wrote Friday, June 05, 2009 11:19 AM
There's a surprising amount of interest in contributing to
LilyPond from Windows machines. (err, I mean, from people *with*
Windows machines, not from the actual machines
2009/6/6 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca:
Err... by run GUB, I mean generate sheet music using the
downloaded .exe.
GUB is the builder, and it builds the released binaries. You run the
builder or the released binary. I propose to call things by their
names.
--
Francisco Vila. Badajoz
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
- does anybody feel like making cygwin packages for the missing
software?
Well, for some time I used to be the cygwin maintainer of lilypond.
Was quite nightmare.
- does anybody have VMware (commercial version) and feel like
making a small Linux
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:18 AM
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Graham Percival wrote Friday, June 05, 2009 11:19 AM
There's a surprising amount of interest in contributing to
LilyPond from Windows machines. (err, I mean, from people
Francisco Vila a écrit :
2009/6/6 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca:
Err... by run GUB, I mean generate sheet music using the
downloaded .exe.
GUB is the builder, and it builds the released binaries. You run the
builder or the released binary. I propose to call things by their
On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 01:23:22AM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
Francisco Vila a écrit :
2009/6/6 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca:
Err... by run GUB, I mean generate sheet music using the
downloaded .exe.
GUB is the builder, and it builds the released binaries. You run the
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 01:23:22AM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
Francisco Vila a écrit :
2009/6/6 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca:
Err... by run GUB, I mean generate sheet music using the
downloaded .exe.
2009/6/7 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca:
Err... GUB stands for Grand Unified Binary. It was a play on
the GUT (Grand Unified Theory) of physics.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=GUBsubmit=Search!idxname=lilypond-develmax=10result=normalsort=date%3Aearly
Cheers,
2009/6/7 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com:
Interesting. So did the name evolve over time? Now it appears to be
called the Grand Unified Builder:
http://lilypond.org/gub/
-Patrick
see also
http://github.com/janneke/gub
or
http://lilypond.org/~janneke/vc/gub.git/
--
Francisco
There's a surprising amount of interest in contributing to
LilyPond from Windows machines. (err, I mean, from people *with*
Windows machines, not from the actual machines themselves)
As I understand it, people with Windows can:
- run GUB
- get the sources with git
- compile the docs without
- does anybody feel like making cygwin packages for the missing
software?
Well, for some time I used to be the cygwin maintainer of lilypond. Was
quite nightmare.
- does anybody have VMware (commercial version) and feel like
making a small Linux installation which has all the required
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:26:41PM +0200, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
- does anybody have VMware (commercial version) and feel like
making a small Linux installation which has all the required
software? Potential contributors would be able to run this
in the free VMware
VirtualBox is Open Source and runs on Linux hosts, so I would recommend
this.
Creating an OS that can be used is a matter of creating a disk image.
One approach is to install ubuntu on the virtual machine, then install
the additional tools, and share the resulting virtual disk.
Bert
Graham
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
VirtualBox is Open Source and runs on Linux hosts, so I would recommend
this.
Creating an OS that can be used is a matter of creating a disk image.
One approach is to install ubuntu on the virtual machine, then install
the additional tools, and share the
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
VirtualBox is Open Source and runs on Linux hosts, so I would
recommend this.
Creating an OS that can be used is a matter of creating a disk image.
One approach is to install ubuntu on the virtual machine, then install
the additional
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
VirtualBox is Open Source and runs on Linux hosts, so I would
recommend this.
Creating an OS that can be used is a matter of creating a disk image.
One approach is to install ubuntu on the virtual machine, then
install the additional
BTW, having said all of this, I actually have an .iso of my own remix
of xubuntu that has all of the Lilypond build tools installed already.
It's kind of big, about 1.1GB, so it either has to go on a DVD or it
can be used as an .iso to install it in a virtual machine. I used a
tool called
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 06:44:27AM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Can't all of the tools be installed from inside the virtual machine?
Yes, but since window users will already be faced with an
unfamiliar environment, we might as well set up the build system
for them.
**IF**
Graham Percival wrote:
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 06:44:27AM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Can't all of the tools be installed from inside the virtual machine?
Yes, but since window users will already be faced with an
unfamiliar environment, we might as well set up the build
As we are looking for windows-experienced developers I really think that
the ubuntu way would be better, it is easier for us windowsers.
If you guys think it would be useful then I'll have a go at it. I
think I can remaster xubuntu with all the Lilypond build tools and get
it under 700MB to
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
under 700MB to fit on a CD. I would go with Debian but the tool
remastersys is specifically made for doing Ubuntu remixes and I'm not
sure it would work with straight Debian.
I was wrong about this. It's for Debian or Ubuntu. I can do Debian
if you think it's
I've done a fresh Ubuntu install on my 2nd partition so I can create this
lily-dev remix. Lilypond built successfully but the user documentation is
failing very early in the process. The CG built correctly, but none of the
stuff in user/ is building. Can anyone see what the problem is from this
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:11:35PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Reading music-glossary.tely...
Dissecting...
lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.13.1
Traceback (most recent call last):
File ../../scripts/lilypond-book.py, line 2108, in module
main ()
File
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote:
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:11:35PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Reading music-glossary.tely...
Dissecting...
lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.13.1
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
Jonathan Kulp a écrit :
What I don't understand is how the permissions got jacked up in the
first place. I didn't do anything different this time than I usually
do. I've never had the permissions problem before. Maybe I put a
sudo in there inadvertently but I don't recall doing any sudos
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