Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Chip
There has been recent discussion on -user regarding getting the date in the footer. One of the problems in finding the solution has been the docs themselves. I have a suggestion that may, in the long run, help straighten a few things out. But first I want to suggest this: move the section '3.2

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Chip wrote: There has been recent discussion on -user regarding getting the date in the footer. One of the problems in finding the solution has been the docs themselves. I have a suggestion that may, in the long run, help straighten a few things out. But first I want to suggest this: move the

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Chip, first I want to suggest this: move the section '3.2 Titles and headers' found in the NOTATION Reference to the LM. Why? Because the NR should be about Notation, and headers/footers/titles are not notation. Interesting... I'm curious to see what others' opinions are. Although it

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 07:02:23AM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Chip wrote: But first I want to suggest this: move the section '3.2 Titles and headers' found in the NOTATION Reference to the LM. Why? Because the NR should be about Notation, and headers/footers/titles are not notation. I

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 08:06:30AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Chip, As a nooby if I'm looking for info on adding a date to the footer I start by searching for Footer in the index of the LM, but it's not there. That should be the first thing to get fixed! =) Graham/Carl: who/what

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I'm a lot more willing to rename this section. I've seen somewhere between 3-10 people confused by this in the past 5 years. Titular material? Headers and footers? Any suggestions for the name? Perhaps Headings, headers, and footers Werner

Re: recent beaming change?

2009-04-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Re: recent beaming change? On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Andrew Hawryluk ahawry...@gmail.com wrote: My latest LilyPond build (2.13.1, 24 Apr 2009) produces different beaming than my last build. e.g. {c''8 c'' c'' c''} used to produce |_|_|_| and now it gives me |_|

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Any suggestions for the name? Perhaps Headings, headers, and footers Or even Titles, Headings, and Headers/Footers ? Kieren. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Or even Titles, Headings, and Headers/Footers I don't see an immediate difference between titles and headings. The latter includes the former AFAIK. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Reverting Beat Grouping Commands

2009-04-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:27 PM 2009/4/25 Carl D. Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: On 4/25/09 8:24 AM, Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/22 Carl D. Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: Does this help clarify what I'm thinking? Yes, thank you. To be honest, I'm

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Titles, Headings, and Headers/Footers I don't see an immediate difference between titles and headings. The latter includes the former AFAIK. Since Heading and Header are extremely similar, explicitly including the word title decreases the likelihood of miscommunication and

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Then I suggest Titles, Headings, Headers, Footers or something similar to avoid the nasty `/'. Headings (Titles) and Margin Text (Headers and Footers) ?? Kieren. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 04:58:12PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Since Heading and Header are extremely similar, explicitly including the word title decreases the likelihood of miscommunication and misunderstanding, which is what we're trying to solve here. Kieren. Then I suggest

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Then I suggest Titles, Headings, Headers, Footers or something similar to avoid the nasty `/'. Headings (Titles) and Margin Text (Headers and Footers) If I read `margin' I only think of left and right margins. Werner ___ lilypond-devel

Re: Reverting Beat Grouping Commands

2009-04-26 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/26 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: Just to recap, the advantage of \override over \set is that previously overridden values can be recovered by \revert because they are pushed onto a stack, whereas \unset simply restores the original default value.  Is that right? Yes. The

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Headings (Titles) and Margin Text (Headers and Footers) If I read `margin' I only think of left and right margins. So Lilypond's top-margin and bottom-margin properties make no sense? ;) It's clear in the typographic world (including HTML/CSS, etc.) that the margin extends around the

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
I'm beginning to suspect that we should just explain this better in the tutorial Didn't you just recently say that this should NOT be in LM? ... after all, the command is \header. That is, one must admit, a confusing command... none of the items are actually put in a header (as most

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:35:33AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I'm beginning to suspect that we should just explain this better in the tutorial Didn't you just recently say that this should NOT be in LM? Sorry, I mis-spoke. We should explain that details of \header stuff is in the

Re: Lilypond Parser Grammar added to manual

2009-04-26 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Carl, Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : I've attached a patch that puts the grammar in the Notation Reference as an appendix, given that lilygrammar.txt is found in Documentation/user. I called it ly-grammar.txt. I can't commit these changes myself, because they'll break compiling if the

Re: Renaming targets

2009-04-26 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : Thanks, please ping me when this is in lilypond master? It is :-) Cheers, John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Lilypond Parser Grammar added to manual

2009-04-26 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/26/09 5:02 PM, John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Carl, Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : I've attached a patch that puts the grammar in the Notation Reference as an appendix, given that lilygrammar.txt is found in Documentation/user. I called it ly-grammar.txt. I can't

Re: GUB3 at the lilypond-installer stage

2009-04-26 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi Jan, On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:18:25AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Op woensdag 22-04-2009 om 21:07 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Patrick McCarty: Your latest fixes on master work for me. I can now build all of the installers except for darwin-*. Attached is the log for