GUB broken

2012-10-11 Thread Phil Holmes
Folks, Please see http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2885. GUB is broken and does not currently build the full output that it should. It could be fixed by reverting Jan's commit, but that seems the wrong approach - he obviously made the commit for a reason. Could someone

Re: Context.Grob considered as symbol list

2012-10-11 Thread James
Hello, On 10 Oct 2012, at 21:02, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: X-offset anyone? ... should be renamed IMHO. Regardless of our discussion, it doesn't fit into the current naming scheme. The corresponding axis is called X, and using x for a constant in the expectation that the user

Re: Context.Grob considered as symbol list

2012-10-11 Thread David Kastrup
James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: On 10 Oct 2012, at 21:02, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: X-offset anyone? ... should be renamed IMHO. Regardless of our discussion, it doesn't fit into the current naming scheme. The corresponding axis is called X, and using x for a constant in the

[GLISS] turning strings to symbols (was: Issue 2883)

2012-10-11 Thread David Kastrup
Copying to a wider distribution of people who only sporadically write on lilypond-devel (I hope I have most of the others covered via lilypond-devel) since I need feedback on this. Issue 2883 URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2883 deals with a mostly (apart from half a dozen

Re: [GLISS] turning strings to symbols

2012-10-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
So far, the attempt to get feedback on this language change has failed spectacularly, At least I'm all for it, and Janek too. So it's not such a spectacular failure IMHO. but that is the point of the current review at URL:http://codereview.appspot.com/6635050. This is terribly awkward to

Re: [GLISS] turning strings to symbols (was: Issue 2883)

2012-10-11 Thread Janek WarchoĊ‚
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:27 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: But the _point_ of the _invasive_ patch and convert-ly rules was to get feedback about what people think about a language change that essentially makes it unnecessary for users to write symbols like #'xxx [...] I LOVE this

Re: Context.Grob considered as symbol list

2012-10-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[...] I still don't want to make the interpretation of identifiers depend on case other than, of course, that you need to stick with the exact spelling of an identifier once you picked its name. Besides limiting the namespace of user variables, what are your arguments against such a change?

Re: [GLISS] turning strings to symbols

2012-10-11 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: So far, the attempt to get feedback on this language change has failed spectacularly, At least I'm all for it, and Janek too. So it's not such a spectacular failure IMHO. but that is the point of the current review at

Re: Context.Grob considered as symbol list

2012-10-11 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: [...] I still don't want to make the interpretation of identifiers depend on case other than, of course, that you need to stick with the exact spelling of an identifier once you picked its name. Besides limiting the namespace of user variables, what are

Re: [GLISS] turning strings to symbols

2012-10-11 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:27 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Though I don't particularly mind writing cryptic symbols like #'xxx anymore (by now they're my old friends), I'm pretty sure I did as I was struggling to learn the program.

Re: Still alive

2012-10-11 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: Just a quick ping to let you know that I'm not dead - I've been swamped w/ work recently and just got engaged so I'm planning out a wedding (w00t!). Dude, you're insane. (I knew it but I apparently had no idea

Re: Still alive

2012-10-11 Thread David Nalesnik
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: Just a quick ping to let you know that I'm not dead - I've been swamped w/ work recently and just got engaged so I'm planning out

Re: GUB broken

2012-10-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 09:11:27AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: Please see http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2885. GUB is broken and does not currently build the full output that it should. It could be fixed by reverting Jan's commit, but that seems the wrong approach - he

PATCH: Countdown to 20121014

2012-10-11 Thread Colin Campbell
For 20:00 MDT Sunday October 14 Defect: Issue 2889 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2889: Bad unicode char value in error message - R 6625078 http://codereview.appspot.com/6625078/ Enhancement: Issue 2790 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2790:

Re: Context.Grob considered as symbol list

2012-10-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
\tweak Accidental.color #red cis vs. \override Voice.Accidental color #red \tweak gets one symbol list, \override gets two symbol lists. The symbol list for \tweak may optionally start with a grob name, the first symbol list for \override may optionally start with a context name.

Re: Context.Grob considered as symbol list

2012-10-11 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: On the other hand: Wouldn't it be possible to make LilyPond simply walk over all possible combinations to find out whether, say, foo.bar is a context followed by a property, or a property followed by a sub-property, etc.? Is this too expensive? Or is