Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 17:01, d...@gnu.org wrote: PDFTeX apparently does merge subsetted fonts, Which version? so I don't think we should need to include the complete fonts in order to get font merging. But we probably should work with coding vectors so that we can use identical font names, just

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
Knut Petersen knut_peter...@t-online.de writes: On 15.01.2015 17:01, d...@gnu.org wrote: PDFTeX apparently does merge subsetted fonts, Which version? Those versions having the \pdfincludedcopyfonts setting? so I don't think we should need to include the complete fonts in order to get

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 14:47, d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 13:18:46, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 13:15, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: Ghostscript does the font merging. Any idea whether something could be done to make

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 15:06:06, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 14:47, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 13:18:46, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 13:15, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: Ghostscript does the

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 07:08:33, lemzwerg wrote: David's concerns are very specific to the Lilypond documentation, not covering the general case. Many programs simply can't process PS output at all, so the suggestion to collect PS data that gets reduced later on is not applicable. The only valid

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 10:45, d...@gnu.org wrote: Reliable? If I remember correctly, the tool used for combining the fonts (ppdfsizeopt.py) Ghostscript does the font merging. fails on the PDF files from PDFLaTeX, so there must be an additional iteration through GhostScript. This additional

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 12:49, lemzw...@googlemail.com wrote: The hyperlink issue is not related to the --bigpdf option (since it is a bug in ghostscript), so I don't think that this is a showstopper. Well, it means that the code currently cannot be used to build lilyponds own documentation. cu, Knut

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 10:45, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: Reliable? If I remember correctly, the tool used for combining the fonts (ppdfsizeopt.py) Ghostscript does the font merging. Ok. BTW: All this has been documented in the commit

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 13:15, d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: Ghostscript does the font merging. Any idea whether something could be done to make PDFTeX do the font merging instead when including all the PDF files? No, not really. That would require a

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread lemzwerg
Well, we get a large size reduction even if we don't use pdfsizeopt! Using this program is an extra bonus but not mandatory. And you are right, I hope that Péter fixes the reported issues, provided someone is going to add them to the bug tracker (which hasn't happened yet, looking at

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 10:45, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: Reliable? If I remember correctly, the tool used for combining the fonts (ppdfsizeopt.py) Ghostscript does the font merging. Any idea whether something could be done to make PDFTeX

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread James
On 15/01/15 13:18, Knut Petersen wrote: On 15.01.2015 13:15, d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: Ghostscript does the font merging. Any idea whether something could be done to make PDFTeX do the font merging instead when including all the PDF files?

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 13:18:46, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 13:15, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: Ghostscript does the font merging. Any idea whether something could be done to make PDFTeX do the font merging instead when

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 13:12, d...@gnu.org wrote: If external hyperlinks from our documentation PDF to other files stop working, we cannot make this the default way of building our documentation. Indeed. Building lilypond with --bigpdfs enabled by default is a good test for that code, nothing more,