Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-22 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Joseph Haig josephhaig at gmail.com writes: Note the second comment: It will be a long time before this beautiful process can be replicated by computers. Erm ... It took Henle three years, from the video was made in 1997 until they stopped hand-engraving in 2000. Three years should not be a

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-22 Thread Jean-marc LEGRAND
Wow : my first question should have been : does anything already exists ! Your answer makes me really happy ! I've just suscribed to the french mailing list, and I'm still postulating to the translation team ! Just one question : are the two lists linked together ? Or is there a french

which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Jean-marc LEGRAND
hi all ! I'm trying to choose a language to learn programming. i know, it depends en what I want dto do with it : but I don't have particular project on my table. So I was wondering if a good idea wouldn't be to use the same language as lilypond, which is C++, i think. My questions are :

RE: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Ed Ardzinski
I am a programmer so I'll give a few comments... I'm trying to choose a language to learn programming. Very well and admirable. Programming is nothing mysterious. Juat a rigorous application of logic. IMO creating a computer program is not all that much different from writing a piece of

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-22 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jean-marc LEGRAND [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow : my first question should have been : does anything already exists ! An experimental version is now available on http://peder.xs4all.nl/fr Click on - Tutorial bottom of page - French This url will disappear when the manual is released.

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Doug Wellington
Previously: If you an abject beginner with programming I suggest starting out with Visual Basic Excellent idea if you're on a Windows platform. If you're on a Mac, you might try AppleScript, which will let you build useful little applications quickly, somewhat like VB. If you're using Linux

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread bbarros
python? it has a simple syntax and it is very powerful, a nice first language and for experienced programmers too. 2006/11/22, Ed Ardzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am a programmer so I'll give a few comments... I'm trying to choose a language to learn programming. Very well and admirable.

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Geoff Horton
Lilypond also makes fairly extensive use of Scheme, which might be easier to learn. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Jean-marc LEGRAND jean-marc.legrand at total.com writes: hi all ! I'm trying to choose a language to learn programming. i know, it depends en what I want dto do with it : but I don't have particular project on my table. So I was wondering if a good idea wouldn't be to use the same

Re: Midi problem

2006-11-22 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 23:37, Lasse Rempe wrote: First of all --- thanks for the help on the hairpintobarline question; my reply on that message doesn't seem to have gone through. I thought I had installed the most current LilyPond version, but clearly not :doh:. I've now installed

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Nick Bailey
On 22 Nov 2006, at 2:06 pm, Ed Ardzinski wrote: If Lilypond is written in C++ (and I do see some hints of C type syntax when I use Lilypond) this *might* be a factor to consider. But... C and C++ are fairly complex languages and have steep learning curves. If you an abject beginner

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 15:53, Bob Kline wrote: Ed Ardzinski wrote: If Lilypond is written in C++ (and I do see some hints of C type syntax when I use Lilypond) this *might* be a factor to consider. But... C and C++ are fairly complex languages and have steep learning curves. If you

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-22 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 09:20, Arvid Grøtting wrote: Joseph Haig josephhaig at gmail.com writes: Note the second comment: It will be a long time before this beautiful process can be replicated by computers. Erm ... It took Henle three years, from the video was made in 1997 until they

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Bertalan Fodor
If you'd like to learn something that you can use in LilyPond activity I would suggest Java and/or the Java-like script language of jEdit, that is BeanShell. In BeanShell you can actually write anything that you can in Java, but can be more lazy. There are excellent Java Tutorials on the net,

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-22 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Erik Sandberg mandolaerik at gmail.com writes: The fact that they chose to switch to computer-engraving doesn't contradict that hand-engraving is far better; [...] True. On the other hand, hand-engraved doesn't always mean better. I've seen, sung from and copied hand-engraved scores (or

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-22 Thread John Mandereau
Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: Just one question : are the two lists linked together ? Or is there a french lilyworld and a english spoken one ? The only link between the lists is the number of users who are suscribed to both. I sometimes summarize some threads from lilypond-user on

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-22 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 22 novembre 2006 à 07:18 +0100, Guy Durrieu a écrit : I could help for this translation, although I have no clear idea now about the technical aspects. You need at least an utf-8 text editor, preferably with syntax highlighting for Texinfo (the source format of the docs), like vim

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-22 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello, all! On another note, I'm looking for the paper quality, printing technique and printer that will best do LilyPond justice. I find the Rockland 70lb (140g), 11x17, cream-coloured paper lives up to Lilypond standards! Best, Kieren. ___

Music for the Martians?

2006-11-22 Thread arjan.bos
Dear List, When upgrading from 2.8.6 to 2.10.0 one of my files was producing this strange error message: Preprocessing graphical objects... /Users/arjanbos/Music/Gitaarles/Boek-2/MusicForTheMartians.ly:12:28: Music for the martians e8_1 e_2 e_3 f_4 f_5 f _6 |

Music for the Martians?

2006-11-22 Thread arjan.bos
Dear List, When upgrading from 2.8.6 to 2.10.0 one of my files was producing this strange error message: Preprocessing graphical objects... /Users/arjanbos/Music/Gitaarles/Boek-2/MusicForTheMartians.ly:12:28: Music for the martians e8_1 e_2 e_3 f_4 f_5 f _6 |

Music for the Martians?

2006-11-22 Thread arjan.bos
Dear List, When upgrading from 2.8.6 to 2.10.0 one of my files was producing this strange error message: Preprocessing graphical objects... /Users/arjanbos/Music/Gitaarles/Boek-2/MusicForTheMartians.ly:12:28: Music for the martians e8_1 e_2 e_3 f_4 f_5 f _6 |

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Doug Wellington
On 11/22/06, Nick Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course other good languages also exist (ruby was mentioned) but in general one learns a language in order to communicate with others, so Visual Basic and Applescript need not apply (unless you don't want to talk to many other people!). I'm

changing the appearance of noteheads

2006-11-22 Thread Martijn Vromans
Hello! I was wondering how I can change the appearance of a notehead, so that a sixteenth note looks like a half note. I cannot find this in the archive or user manual. Best wishes, Martijn Vromans ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-22 Thread David R. Linn
From: John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-marc LEGRAND [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:48:03 +0100 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: Just one question : are the two lists linked together ? Or is there a french lilyworld and a english spoken one ?

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Doug Wellington wrote: Why can't you communicate with others using VB and/or AppleScript? I would submit that it's easier to create a graphical application with VB than just about any other programming language. If you want to communicate via windows, menus, buttons, etc, what's easier than

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Doug Wellington
Simple---because with VB and/or AppleScript you are tying yourself to one platform, or at any rate biasing yourself heavily. Ah... I look at that as a different problem than communicating with others. I didn't think we were talking about portability. I think that when you start talking about

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Mike Blackstock
Joseph Wakeling wrote: I think the earlier poster who suggested going straight for Scheme may have a point. Not only is it the core language for working with Lilypond, but it's a Lisp dialect, and Lisp is both the grandaddy of programming and the most flexible language there is. See for

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-22 Thread Johan Vromans
Arvid Grøtting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and of course I dream of etching a LilyPond score into a plate and printing it in some kind of gravure printer ;-) Lilypond produces PostScript (or PDF) which means it has infinite sharpness. It is the reproduction device that controls how the result

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-22 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Johan Vromans jvromans at squirrel.nl writes: Lilypond produces PostScript (or PDF) which means it has infinite sharpness. It is the reproduction device that controls how the result looks. If you use a professional quality printer the result will be splendid. Maybe you can contact a real

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-22 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2006-11-22 um 21:26 schrieb Arvid Grøtting: The problem is twofold: This print shop doesn't stock any cream- colored A3 paper which would be nice, and the finished sheet music is almost *too* sharp. So what I'm looking for is a bit more smudge, a bit of roughness, some printing

Exporting timing information out of lilypond

2006-11-22 Thread Thomas Tensi
Hello, I'm trying to make MPEG-4 notation files from lilypond output. Each key frame is a score sheet (a PNG picture) shown for a specific time, but it has to be synchronous with the music played (also generated from lilypond). To achieve that I need a list of play times per sheet and the

Re: adding fingering diagrams

2006-11-22 Thread Chris Capoccia
is there a way to make the circles closer in the macro definition? i overrode the baseline-skip property, and now the circles are closer together. fingerD = \markup{\override #'(baseline-skip . 2) \column{◍ ● ● }} ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: which language for programming

2006-11-22 Thread Eduardo Vieira
Jean wrote: I'm trying to choose a language to learn programming. i know, it depends en what I want dto do with it : but I don't have particular project on my table. I had been wondering with the same questions lately and, having Lilypond in mind, and lot of survey on forums. I decided I'd go

Re: Music for the Martians?

2006-11-22 Thread Graham Percival
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /Users/arjanbos/Music/Gitaarles/Boek-2/MusicForTheMartians.ly:12:28: Music for the martians e8_1 e_2 e_3 f_4 f_5 f _6 | What is music for the martians? I think this is referring to people with 6-fingers. Typing e8_1 means first

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-11-22 Thread Graham Percival
Bob Kline wrote: Could one of you have pity on a poor clueless user and give an example showing where these two directives go? There is only one command, which can be entered in two different ways. I have looked at chapter 5 of the docs (I assume we're talking about the chapter 5 in the

Re: (double)Slurs on whole Notes

2006-11-22 Thread Graham Percival
Thanks, this bug has been entered as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=156 Note that it has nothing to do with double slurs, are your final line demonstrates. I've simplified the example for the bug tracker. Cheers, - Graham Thomas Frank wrote: The follwing snippet shows a

Re: binary eps files in 2.10 break lilypond-book workaround

2006-11-22 Thread Graham Percival
Entered as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=157 Cheers, - Graham Laura Conrad wrote: Sometime very late in the 2.9 release cycle, the eps files generated by lilypond-book (on ubuntu edgy linux; presumably really by lilypond -b eps) became binary instead of text. This means

Re: broken crescendo

2006-11-22 Thread Graham Percival
Orm Finnendahl wrote: thanks for the help! I found the following solution: \override DynamicLineSpanner #'layer = #0 deh2~\ \override TextScript #'layer = #1 deh16_\markup { \postscript #2.5 -4 translate 6.2 4 scale 1 setgray 0 0 moveto 0 1 lineto 1 1 lineto 1 0 lineto 0 0

Re: hairpinToBarline (bug or feature?)

2006-11-22 Thread Graham Percival
Thomas Frank wrote: To me it seems like hairpinToBarline works correctly in 2.10 as long as the (de-)crescendo ends in '\!' and not in an absolute dynamic like '\f'. Is this the way it is supposed to work? Is there any switch to make it work with absolute dynamics, too? '\!\f' doesn't work.

Re: Music for the Martians?

2006-11-22 Thread Daniel Tonda
For pedagogical purposes, ¿wouldn't it be better if the timing was shown in a different font than the font used for fingerings? Such as: %% \version 2.10.0 \score { \context Staff = guitar { \key c \major \time 6/8 \relative c'' { { e8 e e f f f } \\ {

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-22 Thread Martial
The fact that they chose to switch to computer-engraving doesn't contradict that hand-engraving is far better; see: http://lilypond.org/web/about/automated-engraving/introduction.html And the Lilypond product is great ! http://cathemline.org/lily/fragment_typo.html