Re: lp with korean/utf8 lambda dvipdfmx

2007-11-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
\addlyrics { \override Lyrics . LyricText #'font-name = Woorin R [...] Where did you find this? In a comment of `sakura-sakura.ly' which is part of the lilypond bundle. I've already mentioned in my last email that this particular bit of information is probably missing

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/11/26, Adam James Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm using some complicated time signatures, like 3599/11748 followed by 2667/25276 followed by 177/568, etc. (I have a good reason for this). Just out of curiosity... How good can any reason be? :-) Valentin

Smaller PDF, shrinking away largeness

2007-11-27 Thread Sean Gugler
PDF files seem larger than necessary, is there something I can do to shrink them? Besides setting 'point-and-click false, which I've already done. For point of reference, a version 2.2.2 .ly file of 17K generated a tidy 77K PDF back in June 2004. Updating that .ly to version 2.10.7 (through

Re: Smaller PDF, shrinking away largeness

2007-11-27 Thread Graham Percival
Turn off point and click. It's in the docs. - Graham Sean Gugler wrote: PDF files seem larger than necessary, is there something I can do to shrink them? Besides setting 'point-and-click false, which I've already done. For point of reference, a version 2.2.2 .ly file of 17K generated a tidy

Re: SystemStartBar on one-staff systems

2007-11-27 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
Dear Mats, Mats Bengtsson wrote: I have now made a fix that should appear in version 2.11.35. Mats Bengtsson wrote: This problem has been brought up a few times in the mailing lists, see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2007-07/msg00028.html Since nobody has reacted since

Prall in brackets? (mordents as well)

2007-11-27 Thread Boris Dušek
Hi, typesetting prall works just fine, but what should I do if I want to typeset the prall in brackets? I got inspired by the dynamics documentation on forte in brackets[1], but that did not work: a \markup{\bracket{\prall}} It throws the following error: error: syntax error, unexpected \markup

Re: Smaller PDF, shrinking away largeness

2007-11-27 Thread Laura Conrad
Graham == Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Graham Turn off point and click. It's in the docs. Graham Sean Gugler wrote: PDF files seem larger than necessary, is there something I can do to shrink them? Besides setting 'point-and-click false, which I've already

Re: Smaller PDF, shrinking away largeness

2007-11-27 Thread Graham Percival
Laura Conrad wrote: Graham == Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Graham Turn off point and click. It's in the docs. Graham Sean Gugler wrote: PDF files seem larger than necessary, is there something I can do to shrink them? Besides setting 'point-and-click false,

Re: Prall in brackets? (mordents as well)

2007-11-27 Thread Graham Percival
Boris Dušek wrote: a \markup{\bracket{\prall}} It throws the following error: error: syntax error, unexpected \markup You need a - or ^ or _ in front of \markup. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Prall in brackets? (mordents as well)

2007-11-27 Thread Francisco Vila
2007/11/27, Boris Dušek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, typesetting prall works just fine, but what should I do if I want to typeset the prall in brackets? I got inspired by the dynamics documentation on forte in brackets[1], but that did not work: a \markup{\bracket{\prall}} Try

Your Friendly Neighborhood LSR

2007-11-27 Thread Valentin Villenave
Hello everybody, I'm sure you all know about the LilyPond Snippet Repository, this wonderful place where anyone can share his ideas, examples, tips and tricks about LilyPond. Nevertheless, let me tell you more about it. A lot more, in fact (as you may notice, this mail is a bit long...). I'm

RE: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Ed Ardzinski
I did some playing last night and was surprised that you can have any denominator for a time signature, so my initial idea is wrong...not that I really understand what 5/9 time would really mean, but obviously LP interprets it.Since it seems to be a lot of code that causes this, perhaps you

Re: Your Friendly Neighborhood LSR

2007-11-27 Thread Rune Zedeler
Valentin Villenave skrev: -- First rule of LSR is: do not add a \version line. -- Second rule of LSR is: do NOT add a \version line. What is the reason for this? The version line might be good information to have - at least in a comment. If a snippet stops behaving correctly, the

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The same problem was discussed some year ago on this mailing list (or maybe on bug-lilypond), see the archives. /Mats Ed Ardzinski wrote: I did some playing last night and was surprised that you can have any denominator for a time signature, so my initial idea is wrong...not that I

Re: SystemStartBar on one-staff systems

2007-11-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Try doing the setting on the Score level: \version 2.11.35 sop = \relative c'' { c4 c c c } \layout { \context { \Score \override SystemStartBracket #'collapse-height = #1 \override SystemStartBar #'collapse-height = #1 } } \score{ \context ChoirStaff \context Staff=soprano

Re: Your Friendly Neighborhood LSR

2007-11-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Rune Zedeler wrote: Valentin Villenave skrev: -- First rule of LSR is: do not add a \version line. -- Second rule of LSR is: do NOT add a \version line. What is the reason for this? The version line might be good information to have - at least in a comment. If a snippet stops

Re: Cross-staff glissandi

2007-11-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Jordn wrote: Ah. Thanks for that. The problem is that the harp needs to have two staves and it's going to look a bit awkward, but I'll use it. Does anyone know if there are any plans to allow for cross-staff glissandi (for pianos, harps, etc.) in future versions? It should work to just

Re: Your Friendly Neighborhood LSR

2007-11-27 Thread Rune Zedeler
Mats Bengtsson skrev: Regarding information on the original author, this would certainly be useful for the LSR maintainer, but there are also good reasons not to publish names on a public web page, at least not with an email address. Of course we should not automatically publish real names

Re:Your Friendly Neighborhood LSR

2007-11-27 Thread Palmer, Ralph
Greetings - Does code ever work in one version, then not work in a subsequent version, then work again in an even later version? I can see where it might, at least at the x.x.xx level. If that's the case, snippets could end up with multiple version lines. Ralph + Ralph

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Trevor Bača
On Nov 27, 2007 7:31 AM, Ed Ardzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did some playing last night and was surprised that you can have any denominator for a time signature, so my initial idea is wrong...not that I really understand what 5/9 time would really mean, but obviously LP interprets it.

Re: Your Friendly Neighborhood LSR

2007-11-27 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/11/27, Rune Zedeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Rune, Valentin Villenave skrev: -- First rule of LSR is: do not add a \version line. -- Second rule of LSR is: do NOT add a \version line. What is the reason for this? OK, let me explain more about it (I had a hard time

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, Trevor: What frustrates me is that there's appearantly no *name* for the class of time signatures of the form m/n where n is *not* an integer power of 2. Fascinating observation! =) If anybody has a good name for these meters, I would love to steal. n-ary meters? [...he offered,

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Trevor Bača
On Nov 27, 2007 12:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Trevor: What frustrates me is that there's appearantly no *name* for the class of time signatures of the form m/n where n is *not* an integer power of 2. Fascinating observation! =) If anybody has a good name

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Damian Legassick
still ot i was a founder member of british new music group 'icebreaker' - we often perform scores with times signatures like 4/6 or 5/12 (four triplet quarter notes to the bar or 5 eigth-note triplets). earlier, boulez in le marteau would write time sigs like 'two and two thirds over

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Libero Mureddu
Hi Trevor wikipedia article call those time sigs as irrational meters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature further investigation showed that Ferneyhough himself calls them irrational, so, probably, this is a quite good definition:

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Libero, wikipedia article call those time sigs as irrational meters: It's unfortunate (IMO) that such a (mathematical) misnomer has become accepted... Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Trevor, Which would conflict with the senses of binary and ternary Good point. How to draw attention to the *denominator*? How about n-rational or n-plex meters? So powers of two would be 2-plex (or duplex) meters, powers of three would be 3-plex (triplex), etc. ?? Cheers, Kieren.

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Trevor Bača
On Nov 27, 2007 1:06 PM, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Trevor, Which would conflict with the senses of binary and ternary Good point. How to draw attention to the *denominator*? How about n-rational or n-plex meters? So powers of two would be 2-plex (or duplex) meters,

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Trevor: So what would be anything-other-than-(power-of)-2-plex? ;-) non-duplex? Better yet, the partially-punny contraction: nuplex! =) Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Trevor Bača
On Nov 27, 2007 1:02 PM, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Libero, wikipedia article call those time sigs as irrational meters: It's unfortunate (IMO) that such a (mathematical) misnomer has become accepted... Agreed. I think Ferneyhough uses the term only with reluctance;

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Hans Aberg
On 27 Nov 2007, at 19:06, Trevor Bača wrote: If anybody has a good name for these meters, I would love to steal. n-ary meters? [...he offered, only half-jokingly...] Which would conflict with the senses of binary and ternary meters referring to the (sub)divisions of the *numerators* of

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Hans Aberg
On 27 Nov 2007, at 19:15, Damian Legassick wrote: i can't immediately see how you'd play 3599/11748 but i'd be surprised if the math that got you there was so hard. The question is where the metric accents are. There are three different possibilities already for 9 = 4+2+3. I think the

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 27.11.2007 (13:44), Trevor Bača wrote: I wish I knew enough about Medieval music (or Medieval music theory anyway) to know if the Medieval invetors of duplum and triplum and perfectus and imperfectus and the like ever touched on the topic ... they'd make a good source to steal from ... Oh,

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 27.11.2007 (21:48), Eyolf Oestrem wrote: subsuperpartiens: same as the former, only upside down: supersexcupartiensseptima=7:13 That should of course have been SUBsupersexcupartiensseptima... how stupid of me... Eyolf -- No discipline is ever requisite to force attendance upon

Re:hang --going backwards in time; insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Tim Reeves
in my experience this notation is quite useful if you have a broken bar that it would be impossible to write differently, even if many players told me that they prefer to see an incomplete bar (even without time signature) with the tuplet sign (or with nested tuplets) because for them the

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Adam James Wilson
Yes, these time sigtanatures are ridiculous -- but they are needed to produce the visual I'm after. I'm notating an electronic part; I have four performers playing at 4 different tempi, and the electronic part plays groups of four artiuclations, each quantized to a beat in a different tempo --

Time signatures contd. (was Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring )

2007-11-27 Thread Vivian Barty-Taylor
On the subject of time signatures with a denominator-base other than two, Henry Cowell in his book New Musical Resources proposes a notation system with different shaped note-heads to represent different base-lengths. This should be quite easy to implement in Lilypond. Might see if I can

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Adam James Wilson
It is nice to see everyone is so interested in my strange fractions -- it is great that these are possible in lilypond. However, I'm still not sure what is breaking my code. Possibilities are: 1. I'm making some syntactical mistake. 2. I made a math error someplace. 3. There's a real bug.

Re: Time signatures contd. (was Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring )

2007-11-27 Thread Hans Aberg
On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:05, Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: On the subject of time signatures with a denominator-base other than two, Henry Cowell in his book New Musical Resources proposes a notation system with different shaped note-heads to represent different base-lengths. This should be

Lilypond for serial music?

2007-11-27 Thread Eyolf Østrem
The thread about strange meters made me wonder: have any of you lilypudlians used LP to write serial music? It would seem to be an ideal combination: make a variable and expose it to different output parameters. I assume that with some scheme code, a sequence of pitches could be translated into

Re: Your Friendly Neighborhood LSR

2007-11-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Valentin Villenave wrote: The version line might be good information to have - at least in a comment. If a snippet stops behaving correctly, the original author of the snippet is gone, nobody any longer really remembers what the snippet was supposed to do - then the version line will give a

Lilypond Xandros

2007-11-27 Thread stefanozanobini
Does Xandors support Lilypond? I hope that Lilypond runs on it! stezano ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Problem with multiple melody lines

2007-11-27 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
This is really a question I should not be asking when I don't have the actual code in front of me, but is there a problem with http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Switching-the-melody-associated-with-a-lyrics-line and triplets? I had the darnedest time getting something to

Re: Lilypond for serial music?

2007-11-27 Thread Andrea Valle
I typically use lilypond for algorithmic composition. I use Python to script lily. Serial practices are just very simple cases. There are other on the list doing so in very complex ways (e.g. Trevor Bača). Best -a- On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:44, Eyolf Østrem wrote: The thread about strange

Re: Problem with multiple melody lines

2007-11-27 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
On Nov 27, 2007 5:29 PM, Garrett Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really a question I should not be asking when I don't have the actual code in front of me, but is there a problem with

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Trevor Bača
On Nov 27, 2007 2:48 PM, Eyolf Østrem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27.11.2007 (13:44), Trevor Bača wrote: I wish I knew enough about Medieval music (or Medieval music theory anyway) to know if the Medieval invetors of duplum and triplum and perfectus and imperfectus and the like ever

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Deacon Geoffrey Horton
Charming system, but not very practical... Oh, Eyolf, what a gem. Thanks so much for the beautiful reference. And, yes: not very practical, but how fascinating ... Practicality is overrated. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Your Friendly Neighborhood LSR

2007-11-27 Thread Graham Percival
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/11/27, Rune Zedeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Rune, Valentin Villenave skrev: -- First rule of LSR is: do not add a \version line. -- Second rule of LSR is: do NOT add a \version line. What is the reason for this? The snippets are supposed to be *all*

Re: Lilypond for serial music?

2007-11-27 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi, (that should have been to the list, sorry to bother you Andrea) On Nov 28, 2007 12:27 AM, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I typically use lilypond for algorithmic composition. I use Python to script lily. Serial practices are just very simple cases. There are other on the list

Re: hang --going backwards in time; insane spring distance requested

2007-11-27 Thread Hans Aberg
On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:05, Adam James Wilson wrote: But I still don't understand Valentin -- you're telling me you can't tap out rhythms in 2667/25276 time? :) I think that if the 1/4 has a reasonable tempo, say 1/4 = 120, then the shortest discernible time values will be around 1/128, and