Re: Unicode chars in scheme?

2009-06-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Tao Cumplido wrote Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:10 AM what is the correct way of using scheme unicode chars in LilyPond? (display #\©) or (display #\u00a9) don't work (both do in DrScheme). It can't be the file encoding because (display ©) works. \char ##x00a9 See Notation Reference

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Ok. Though the crash course is too long. One would never read it to the bottom. Original message From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Sent: 23 Jun 2009 22:36 -07:00 To: Bertalan Fodor lilypondt...@organum.hu Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: new website: initial

Re: MacOS X 10.5 GUI

2009-06-24 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 05:40:59AM +0200, James E. Bailey wrote: Granted, I'm on 10.4, but I've never had the could not find platform… or Consider setting $PYTHONHOME… error messages. Also, what's with the LilyPond.app/Contents/MacOS/python ? you have a python there? Yes, there is a python

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2009/6/24 Bertalan Fodor lilypondt...@organum.hu: Ok. Though the crash course is too long. One would never read it to the bottom. I'd say it is *excellent*. Mmmmaybe a question of taste. -- Dmytro O. Redchuk ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Unicode chars in scheme?

2009-06-24 Thread Tao Cumplido
\char ##x00a9 Thanks. It didn't work right away but I figured it out. (display #x00a9) - 169 (display (char? #x00a9)) - #f (display (number? #x00a9)) - #t (display (integer-char #x00a9)) - © I still wish there was a direct way but this will do. -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die

Re: Unicode chars in scheme?

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Polesky
Tao Cumplido wrote: Thanks. It didn't work right away but I figured it out. (display #x00a9) - 169 (display (char? #x00a9)) - #f (display (number? #x00a9)) - #t (display (integer-char #x00a9)) - © I still wish there was a direct way but this will do. This is also an option:

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Yes it really is, I like it, honestly. But it is inappropriate for the purpose of having a page to notify the user about that LilyPond just compiles and does nothing more. For this purpose I would only show: - The compiling music section. - The screenshot of a dev environment (preferably

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:32:40AM +0200, Bertalan Fodor wrote: Ok. Though the crash course is too long. One would never read it to the bottom. I spent about 30 minutes trying to make it smaller -- I must admit that I have a huge not invented here bias against beginner-oriented documentation.

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:11:41AM +0200, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: I almost would suggest to put this crash course on the home page via a Flash animation: 4 slides: The only reason why flash deserves to exist is so that you can play tower defense games. Other than that, it should

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
It's always tricky finding a balance between appealing to users and warning them about the text. I'm not going to claim that the balance in the new website is perfect, but I think it's worth trying. Let's try it for a few months; if we still have new users sending bug reports about having no

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:53:14AM +0200, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: It's always tricky finding a balance between appealing to users and warning them about the text. I'm not going to claim that the balance in the new website is perfect, but I think it's worth trying. Let's try it

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/6/24 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: The only reason why flash deserves to exist is so that you can play tower defense games.  Other than that, it should die an unmerciful death and never be mentioned in the same sentence as web or home page.  :) Fortunately, there are now

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Grammostola Rosea
I think I miss a tab 'support' or something with a quick link to mailinglists/forums/IRC. Especially the mailinglist is a important resource which should be easily found by newbies imo. thanks for your work. \r ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/6/23 Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se: The LilyPond logo could get some more color. Graham, without necessarily using a different image, you can simply modify the color levels in the existing one; here's a slightly better-looking version (IMO) that I've just made using the Gimp:

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I don't think that even The Almight Google (tm) can distinguish between a person ceasing to browse lilypond.org because they got scared vs. ceasing to browse because their cat just brought in a mouse. But I'm willing to be proven wrong; what does google analytics tell you about our current

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:46:09AM +0200, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: I don't think that even The Almight Google (tm) can distinguish between a person ceasing to browse lilypond.org because they got scared vs. ceasing to browse because their cat just brought in a mouse. But I'm

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:19:17AM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: 2009/6/23 Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se: The LilyPond logo could get some more color. Graham, without necessarily using a different image, you can simply modify the color levels in the existing one; here's a slightly

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
No, it's free, it is already enabled on the lilypond.org site. But to view a report you must have the access rights. So that person who enabled it on lilypond.org could give rights for others to view the report. Graham Percival wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:46:09AM +0200, Bertalan Fodor

note refusing to shift - collisions resulting

2009-06-24 Thread Tom Cloyd
I'm getting NOWHERE trying to resolve a note collision problem, and cannot see the problem. I have three voices and the middle (voice three) is the issue: Snippet: [\voiceOne] f8 [ g e d ] e c g 2 | \bar || e c-1 a-2 4 f c a ^C I g8-4 [f e-0 f] | e4 a e b' | [\voiceThree] b g 2

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Hans Aberg
On 24 Jun 2009, at 11:19, Valentin Villenave wrote: The LilyPond logo could get some more color. Graham, without necessarily using a different image, you can simply modify the color levels in the existing one; here's a slightly better-looking version (IMO) that I've just made using the Gimp:

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Hans Aberg
On 24 Jun 2009, at 12:06, Patrick McCarty wrote: Have you tried seeing if LilyPond is still readable on smaller screen resolutions (800x600). That is, with the current design, the word LilyPond will overlap the image, so the contrast has to be sufficient. This might require different

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote: I would be very interested if the owner of the report gave me rights to have access to it. Google Analytics is cool. I have given gper...@gmail.com access to this a long time ago. Go to

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I *hate* sites that attempt to force a particular resolution. :/ I concur. I'm apt to simply delete html emails before reading them if they require horizontal scrolling. I almost invariably navigate away from sites that require this. If this is at all avoidable, it should be prevented.

Re: Unicode chars in scheme?

2009-06-24 Thread Tao Cumplido
This is also an option: (define (display-unicode x) (display (integer-char x))) (display-unicode #xa9) (for-each display-unicode (list #x66 #x6f #x6f #x62 #x61 #x72 #xa9)) Thanks. That looks interesting. Unfortunately I still get errors. There seems to be a problem of the scheme

Re: Unicode chars in scheme?

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Polesky
Tao Cumplido wrote: Unfortunately I still get errors. There seems to be a problem of the scheme way to encode unicode and the lilypond way. The following gives me errors and no text output: tf = #(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?) (let* ((es (ly:music-property

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: Yes, and we've had an open request for help wanted: make a page showing off different editors for the past 3 years... Also some screenshots of them (like https://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=100536 and I accidentally missed copying the 6, giving me a rather odd

Re: Unicode chars in scheme?

2009-06-24 Thread Tao Cumplido
Perhaps I'm not understanding the remaining issue to be solved if there is one. Clear me up if that's the case. Well, it's a little complex, but what I basically need is a function which replaces every char from a string to its counterpart specified in an alist. And these counterparts are all

can lyric spacing be overridden by note spacing?

2009-06-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all! Just wondering if there's a way to tell Lilypond (2.12 or later) to set lyrics with natural *note* spacing, as opposed to natural *lyric* spacing... Here's a snippet showing what I'm hoping to achieve automagically: \version 2.13 melody = \relative { c8 d e f g4. f8 | e1 }

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Hans Aberg
On 24 Jun 2009, at 20:51, Patrick McCarty wrote: Have you tried seeing if LilyPond is still readable on smaller screen resolutions (800x600). That is, with the current design, the word LilyPond will overlap the image, so the contrast has to be sufficient. This might require different

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:18:35PM +0200, Hans Aberg wrote: On 24 Jun 2009, at 20:51, Patrick McCarty wrote: Do you or anyone else have any specific ideas for a different location of the water-lily logo? I was thinking of a smaller image, not on a lower screen resolutions. Low resolution

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 03:06:41AM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:19:17AM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: Graham, without necessarily using a different image, you can simply modify the color levels in the existing one; here's a slightly better-looking version

Re: Unicode chars in scheme?

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Polesky
Tao Cumplido wrote: #(define (super-string s) (if (string? s) (let ((n (string-length s)) (s2 )) (do ((i 0 (1+ i))) ((= i n)) (let* ((c (cdr (assoc (string-ref s i) super-ref char=?))) (l (string-length c))) (do ((a 0 (1+ a))) ((= a l))

trouble with alternatives in repeats

2009-06-24 Thread C.Flothow
Can anyone explain (and possibly help with) the following behavior of repeat with alternatives: If I use the snippet as it stands everything looks fine. But if I add the original appoggiaturas then everything goes to pieces. Even one such spells trouble. Thanks Chris \version 2.12.2

Re: trouble with alternatives in repeats

2009-06-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Please read under Known issues and warnings in the section on Grace notes in the Notation Reference manual. /Mats C.Flothow wrote: Can anyone explain (and possibly help with) the following behavior of repeat with alternatives: If I use the snippet as it stands everything looks fine. But

Re: Unicode chars in scheme?

2009-06-24 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/6/24 Tao Cumplido tao_lilypondu...@gmx.net: I think I found out what happens. Guile doesn't seem to use UTF-8 encoding (yet) which probably leads to this strange results. http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Conversion-to_002ffrom-C.html#Conversion-to_002ffrom-C Have you

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Ivo Bouwmans
Hallo all, Hans Graham wrote: I was thinking of a smaller image, not on a lower screen resolutions. Low resolution displays are quickly disappearing. On the Mac side, the smallest have about 1280x720 plus some (so that HDTV 720p will fit). Free standing displays seems to be most price

Re: can lyric spacing be overridden by note spacing?

2009-06-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The simplest solution is probably \score { \new Staff = Staff_voice \new Voice = Voice_vocal \melody \new Lyrics \with{\override LyricText #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0) } \lyricsto Voice_vocal \words \layout{ragged-right =##f } } but then the syllables will collide unless you make sure to

new website: second draft

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
Here you go: http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:22:24AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote: I would be very interested if the owner of the report gave me rights to have access to it. Google Analytics is cool. I have given

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ivo Bouwmansmuz...@ivo.bouwmans.name wrote: Hallo all, Hans Graham wrote: I was thinking of a smaller image, not on a lower screen resolutions. Low resolution displays are quickly disappearing. On the Mac side, the smallest have about 1280x720 plus some (so

Problem with header/copyright in new 2.12 version

2009-06-24 Thread Jay Hamilton
Mats sent me this solution for multiple lines in the copyright and now the bottom is overlapping and in one line. How do I make it work like it did in 2.10 \version 2.12.2 \header { title = Positioning your finding composer = Jay Hamilton copyright = \markup { \tiny \override

Re: Problem with header/copyright in new 2.12 version

2009-06-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The standard solution to all such compatibility problems is to run the file through convert-ly, to automatically update the syntax. (Just remember to specify \version 2.10.0 or something like that in the file header, so that convert-ly knows what to do.) /Mats Jay Hamilton wrote: Mats sent

Re: can lyric spacing be overridden by note spacing?

2009-06-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mats, The more philosophical question is what you mean by natural note spacing since you still want the spacing to be wide enough to avoid collisions between the syllables. In the (first measure of the) example I gave, I kind of did the following: 1. Divide the span into spacable

Re: Problem with header/copyright in new 2.12 version

2009-06-24 Thread Jay Hamilton
Unfortunately, I have never been able to get convert-ly to work. It's mostly my computer ignorance. My files don't seem to be in simple places and I never get the parameters correct. so I have the file in C:\Documents and Settings\Frybyte\Desktop\Hamilton it's called my template.ly it's version

Re: can lyric spacing be overridden by note spacing?

2009-06-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mats, In the (first measure of the) example I gave, I kind of did the following: 1. Divide the span into spacable sections -- here, two half-notes. 2. Determine the width of each spaceable section by the total natural width of the lyrics within the section. 3. Evenly spread the notes

Re: new website: second draft

2009-06-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: Here you go: http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html Cheers, - Graham I like the new website, Graham. The crash course is excellent, although I question whether it's good to have lyrics like Lily, got me on my knees. (Whew!) I think it'd be

Re: new website: second draft

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Polesky
Jonathan Kulp wrote: I like the new website, Graham. The crash course is excellent, although I question whether it's good to have lyrics like Lily, got me on my knees. (Whew!) Actually, as much as *I* like the joke, I'm afraid I agree with Jon. Many the get the joke might chuckle, but

Re: new website: second draft

2009-06-24 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Mark Polesky wrote: Jonathan Kulp wrote: I like the new website, Graham. The crash course is excellent, although I question whether it's good to have lyrics like Lily, got me on my knees. (Whew!) Actually, as much as *I* like the joke, I'm afraid I agree

Re: new website: second draft

2009-06-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: Here you go: http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html Cheers, - Graham Graham, you're doing this all in texinfo, right? Are your sourcefiles available? I'd like to see them and try using this format for my own website, which could really use

Re: new website: second draft

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 06:30:16PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: I think it'd be nice to see a link to the crash course on the Documentation page as well, inside the Introduction box. Maybe even a parenthetical (brand new users should see the crash course as well) or something along those

Re: new website: second draft

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 05:47:06PM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: Actually, as much as *I* like the joke, I'm afraid I agree with Jon. Many the get the joke might chuckle, but those that don't might just be disturbed. For a moment I thought of suggesting to change it to Lily, I'm begging,

Re: new website: second draft

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:47:06PM -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Mark Polesky wrote: Also, just to respond to a previous comment, I do *NOT* think the crash course is overwhelming. If we pare it down too much, it's going to elicit thoughts of can I do anything other

Re: new website: second draft

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:08:52PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Here you go: http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html Graham, you're doing this all in texinfo, right? Are your sourcefiles available? I'd like to see them and try using this format

Re: new website: initial comments

2009-06-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:17:06AM +0200, Grammostola Rosea wrote: I think I miss a tab 'support' or something with a quick link to mailinglists/forums/IRC. Especially the mailinglist is a important resource which should be easily found by newbies imo. Hmm. I've having difficulty with