Re: Compile for Mac

2011-03-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2011-03-13 um 22:43 schrieb James Lowe: MacPorts is source based, so it will take longer to compile, maybe less internet downloading? Since xcode4 is now paid, MacPort should consider providing the devel base as binaries also? Why do you think XCode4 would be paid? I found no information

Re: Overlapping notes and midi output

2011-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/3/14 Hinrik Örn Sigurðsson hinrik@gmail.com: 2011/3/13 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com: Then I suppose that you have more than 16 voices. This is the drawback of this method. But it does work around the problem, thanks. You're welcome :) cheers, Janek Actually,

Re: left-aligning grobs to other grobs

2011-03-14 Thread Gilles THIBAULT
Attached is a function . . . Wahoo. Seems to be a very powerfull function. I keep it in my favorites. Thanks David. Gilles NB If the user enters the value 2 for example as the dir parameter, the function fails. Using = and in the last cond expression avoids that.

Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:42:45AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com wrote: This is F*G great! Especially the Bach BWV 1006 - I could have sworn it really was a kid playing. 

RE: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-14 Thread James Lowe
Han-wen, )-Original Message- )From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org )[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On )Behalf Of Han-Wen Nienhuys )Sent: 14 March 2011 03:43 )To: Mike Blackstock )Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org )Subject: Re: [OT] Vivi, the

Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com wrote: This is F*G great! Especially the Bach BWV 1006 - I could have sworn it really was a kid playing. http://percival-music.ca/audio/bwv-1006_1.wav.mp3 To my ears, the

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Michael Ellis
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:43 AM, David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.comwrote: * Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de [2011-03-14 04:01]: -- O -- (O is the body of a note here) -- O -- the interval between both pitches depends on the location. Why? Why should e-g be different from g - h ?

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com writes: * Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de [2011-03-14 04:01]: -- O -- (O is the body of a note here) -- O -- the interval between both pitches depends on the location. Why? [...] Sure, various people have come up with several interesting and useful

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: The _only_ non-fringe (and you might debate that) instrument I know that has controls _deliberately_ designed around a chromatic scale (note that string instruments have their controls dictated by physics) is the chromatic button accordion. Every _other_

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: The _only_ non-fringe (and you might debate that) instrument I know that has controls _deliberately_ designed around a chromatic scale (note that string instruments have

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: The _only_ non-fringe (and you might debate that) instrument I know that has controls _deliberately_ designed around a chromatic scale (note that string instruments have their controls dictated by physics) is

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: The _only_ non-fringe (and you might debate that) instrument I know that has controls _deliberately_ designed around a

ly file giving error when trying to generate PDF

2011-03-14 Thread Gabriel Espelleta
I have tried to generate a PDF out of this here below file, but it does not work. Any advise? \version 2.10.3 violinoprincipale = { \set Staff.instrumentName = \markup { \center-align { Violino principale. } } \set Staff.midiInstrument = violin \clef treble \key d \major \time 4/4 R1 R1

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: Frets in a guitar are absolutely chromatic.  I did not mention fretless instruments. So please explain how you are would sort frets into a diatonic scale arrangement corresponding to white keys on a piano,

Re: ly file giving error when trying to generate PDF

2011-03-14 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:50 Gabriel Espelleta wrote: I have tried to generate a PDF out of this here below file, but it does not work. Any advise? :-) 1) please, make it more readable! one measure per line is excellent rule, indeed. 2) send error message? \version 2.10.3

Re: ly file giving error when trying to generate PDF

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Gabriel Espelleta gespell...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:50 PM Subject: ly file giving error when trying to generate PDF I have tried to generate a PDF out of this here below file, but it does not work. Any advise?

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Michael Ellis
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: Frets in a guitar are absolutely chromatic.  I did not mention fretless instruments. So please explain how you are would sort

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Michael Ellis
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: Frets in a guitar are absolutely chromatic.  I

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread David Rogers
* David Kastrup d...@gnu.org [2011-03-14 14:40]: And 99% of all musical literature is _scale-oriented_ rather than _interval_-oriented. So even singers tend to be better off with a notation focusing on scales rather than intervals, unless they happen to sing Schönberg. Even if they sing

Re: ly file giving error when trying to generate PDF

2011-03-14 Thread Robin Bannister
Gabriel Espelleta wrote: I have tried to generate a PDF out of this here below file, but it does not work. The Lilypond code you supplied says what the lead violin should play. This, by itself, is not enough for what you are expecting. You must also have code which asks Lilypond to

Re: ly file giving error when trying to generate PDF

2011-03-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Gabriel Try adding \score { \violinoprincipale } to the bottom. Trevor - Original Message - From: Gabriel Espelleta gespell...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:50 PM Subject: ly file giving error when trying to generate PDF I have tried to

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/14 Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: Frets in a guitar are absolutely chromatic.  I did not mention fretless

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Marc Weber
Excerpts from David Rogers's message of Mon Mar 14 16:11:47 + 2011: In my opinion, for starters, any new system that requires an explanation of its features is out. If it isn't obvious without explanation, then the advantages are probably not great enough to get anybody to switch. :) Of

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de writes: I feel that some people playing music only once a year would benefit from equal appearance meaning equal intervals. Only if they are playing an instrument where equal intervals are represented by equal key distances. Since that is not the case for most

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Marc Weber
Excerpts from David Kastrup's message of Mon Mar 14 16:32:56 + 2011: Since that is not the case for most instruments (in particular not for piano keyboards), they have nothing to gain from a notation matching better what they hear rather than what they need to play. First this could be

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de writes: Excerpts from David Kastrup's message of Mon Mar 14 16:32:56 + 2011: Since that is not the case for most instruments (in particular not for piano keyboards), they have nothing to gain from a notation matching better what they hear rather than what

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/3/14 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de: Second: You're wrong. By giving pitches numbers you'll naturally feel than the distance 2-5 is the same as 8-11 and 27-30 and 45-48. And how would you represent quarter-tones? 5.5? And other kinds of tonal inflections?

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Marc Weber
Excerpts from David Kastrup's message of Mon Mar 14 16:58:39 + 2011: You'll find that at the end of the day, they sit down at a keyboard rather than just letting intervals play by numbers in their head. *g*. I agree. The goal in all cases is: read a stream of music from paper, hear it in

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread info
On Mon, March 14, 2011 6:02 pm, Bernardo Barros wrote: 2011/3/14 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de: Second: You're wrong. By giving pitches numbers you'll naturally feel than the distance 2-5 is the same as 8-11 and 27-30 and 45-48. And how would you represent quarter-tones? 5.5? And other

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Bernardo Barros
Then you know that 6A is one octave above 5A, etc. Not that crazy midinote notation.. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Bernardo Barros
we have a decimal system and you want to represent a numeral system based on 12 or 24 like [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B]. You should propose a system base on 12 or 24 then. In computer science they use the hexadecimal system because it fits computer's bytes representation, if your object

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread info
On Mon, March 14, 2011 6:57 pm, Bernardo Barros wrote: we have a decimal system and you want to represent a numeral system based on 12 or 24 like [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B]. You should propose a system base on 12 or 24 then. In computer science they use the hexadecimal system

Removing Time Signature entirely (not just transparent)

2011-03-14 Thread ctesta
Hello Everyone, I am working on some highly customized notation for proportionally notated phase music. I need all of the beats on the page to take up the same amount of space so that the rhythms can be clearly seen. What I need to do now is to take away the time signature in the first line

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Michael Ellis
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:03 PM, i...@kristoflauwers.domainepublic.net wrote: On Mon, March 14, 2011 6:57 pm, Bernardo Barros wrote: we have a decimal system and you want to represent a numeral system based on 12 or 24 like [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B]. You should propose a system

Re: Removing Time Signature entirely (not just transparent)

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: cte...@wesleyan.edu To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 6:23 PM Subject: Removing Time Signature entirely (not just transparent) Hello Everyone, I am working on some highly customized notation for proportionally notated phase music. I

\score block as variable/function

2011-03-14 Thread Xavier Scheuer
Hi, I use \score blocks inside \markup in constructions like this one: \markup { \fill-line { \score { c'1 \layout {} % required! } \score { d'1 \layout {} } } } but it is heavy. I would like to define the \score blocks as variables or as music

Re: Removing Time Signature entirely (not just transparent)

2011-03-14 Thread Bernardo Barros
Hi Carl, I'm also trying to get as precise as possible proportional notation. I see you also came up with the idea os positioning the beams in the middle of the notehead. I got trouble to write a scheme function that knows when the stem is up or down. You seem to have done this better! How did

Re: left-aligning grobs to other grobs

2011-03-14 Thread David Nalesnik
On 3/14/11, Gilles THIBAULT gilles.thiba...@free.fr wrote: Attached is a function . . . Wahoo. Seems to be a very powerfull function. I keep it in my favorites. Thanks David. Glad you can use it! NB If the user enters the value 2 for example as the dir parameter, the function fails.

Re: Removing Time Signature entirely (not just transparent)

2011-03-14 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 14.03.2011 19:23, schrieb cte...@wesleyan.edu: Hello Everyone, I am working on some highly customized notation for proportionally notated phase music. I need all of the beats on the page to take up the same amount of space so that the rhythms can be clearly seen. What I need to do now is to

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread David Nalesnik
@Marc I think we're offering too much discouragement here instead of helping you figure out how to use LilyPond to experiment with your ideas. So here's an adaptation of a script I use to generate solfege syllables using the NoteNames engraver. By mapping numbers to the Dutch notenames,

Re: Removing Time Signature entirely (not just transparent)

2011-03-14 Thread ctesta
Hello Bernardo, I created a custom notehead. Include this somewhere in your file and then call it before your notation using \headCir headCir = { \override NoteHead #'(stem-attachment) = #'(0 . 0) \override NoteHead #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print \override NoteHead #'text = \markup

Re: Removing Time Signature entirely (not just transparent)

2011-03-14 Thread ctesta
Hi Marc, Ahh yes, the custom clef. I have been having some fun with that. I am copying some handwritten music and I'm trying to retain the character of the music as much as possible. The clef is a design of someone else's so I won't include how to do it. But here is the basic premise. Here is a

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
i...@kristoflauwers.domainepublic.net writes: On Mon, March 14, 2011 6:57 pm, Bernardo Barros wrote: we have a decimal system and you want to represent a numeral system based on 12 or 24 like [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B]. You should propose a system base on 12 or 24 then. In

Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-14 Thread Shane Brandes
As a random aside on the whole electronic music effort. On the one hand the technology and science is very interesting, but on the other it is somehow disturbing. I suppose since I have spent so much of my life attempting to master keyboard instruments and having watch so many students

How to print to \score { } constructs next to each other instead of underneath

2011-03-14 Thread James Lowe
Hello A simple example --- \version 2.13.40 top = \relative c'' { \clef treble a b c d } bottom = \relative c { \clef bass a b c d } \score { \new Staff { \top } \new Staff { \bottom } } \score { \new Staff { \top } \new Staff { \bottom } } \score { \new Staff { \top } \new Staff {

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Marc Weber
Bernardo Barros 0,1,...,A,B (base 12) Yes, you're right. Tell me one programmer who can count in Hex by heart. I can do so on paper. But I can't tell you instantly what B*C gives. (11 * 13 = .. back to hex? let me use a calculator). You're right. Base 12 would be fun. But its not tought in

Re: How to print to \score { } constructs next to each other instead of underneath

2011-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/3/14 James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com A simple example [...] This prints 3 grouped staves underneath each other, how would one go about getting them so the three scores are running left to right instead? Perhaps inserting scores in a markup will work for you? See Notation Reference

Re: what about simplifying music notation?

2011-03-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Marc Weber schreef op ma 14-03-2011 om 21:01 [+]: I'm a programmer. I know many languages upside down (unfortunately not lisp) Your brackets already match, I hear that's the hardest bit ;-) Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT

RE: How to print to \score { } constructs next to each other instead of underneath

2011-03-14 Thread James Lowe
Janek, From: Janek Warchoł [lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 March 2011 21:30 To: James Lowe Cc: LilyPond User (lilypond-user@gnu.org) Subject: Re: How to print to \score { } constructs next to each other instead of underneath 2011/3/14 James

Re: \score block as variable/function

2011-03-14 Thread Neil Puttock
On 14 March 2011 19:11, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to define the  \score  blocks as variables or as music functions.  Unfortunately it seems impossible. I tried  scoreOne = \score {    c'1    \layout {}  % required!  }  \markup {    \column {      

Re: RemoveEmptyStaffContext should keep at least one staff alive?

2011-03-14 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com wrote: Hi, 2.13.54 Does it ever make sense for RemoveEmptyStaffContext to remove all staves?  Should not at least one be kept alive showing the rests? Is there a way to force this behavior?  I haven't gotten the following

Re: RemoveEmptyStaffContext should keep at least one staff alive?

2011-03-14 Thread Paul Scott
On 03/14/2011 09:00 PM, Andrew Hawryluk wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Paul Scottwaterho...@ultrasw.com wrote: Hi, 2.13.54 Does it ever make sense for RemoveEmptyStaffContext to remove all staves? Should not at least one be kept alive showing the rests? Is there a way to