Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread Josiah Boothby
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 21:31, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote: Thanks to all for the answer. I wasn't aware of the transposed notation praxis for this instrument. So I think it will be best to write the actual notes as they should appear on the sheet. This can make discussions

Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread Josiah Boothby
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 15:44, Timothy Reeves timothyrree...@gmail.com wrote: I've played horn for a while (albeit for only a third of a century not a full half century ;) and I would say that while you *may* write it with no key signature and accidentals where needed, it is not expected by

Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread Jonas Olson
Even though I do understand the nature of the valveless horn, I do not see why one omits the key signature today. Just tradition doesn't really explain it. Could someone clarify this? Here's how I understand it so far: On the valveless horn you change crooks to give the instrument a transposition

is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread Urs Liska
Hi list, the shapeSlur function from the LSR (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=777) doesn't seem to work anymore (at least for me). That's the 'entrance' function: shapeSlur = #(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (list?) #{ \once \override

Re: is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello Urs, yes there was a syntax change: you might try shapeSlur = #(define-music-function (parser location offsets)(list?) #{ \once \override Slur #'control-points = $(shape-slur offsets) #}) Variables in musicfunctions now are available by there name without the preceding $. The

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Ruedas rue...@dtm.ciw.edu writes: Hi Kieren, On 27/4/12 3:00 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I doubt that this new default behavior reflects common practice, though As a pianist, I can tell you it absolutely does reflect common engraving practice for piano staves: It is a very rare piano

Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
Josiah Boothby josi...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 21:31, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote: Thanks to all for the answer. I wasn't aware of the transposed notation praxis for this instrument. So I think it will be best to write the actual notes as they should appear

Re: Problem with articulate.ly

2012-04-27 Thread James
Hello, On 27 April 2012 02:42, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: The example below builds without error and gives the output I want. However, if I include articulate.ly, then the output is garbaged even though I haven't used \unfoldRepeats \articulate, and I get the following

Re: Problem with articulate.ly

2012-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: This also occurs on 2.14.2. We've had some changes made to articulate.ly recently for 2.15.x - phew! So this isn't a regression in LP code. articulate.ly is not really ported to the new way of working with EventChord: it just converts the new representation to

Re: is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de writes: Hello Urs, yes there was a syntax change: you might try shapeSlur = #(define-music-function (parser location offsets)(list?) #{ \once \override Slur #'control-points = $(shape-slur offsets) #}) I would write #(shape-slur offsets) here:

Re: is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread Urs Liska
Hello Jan-Peter, thank you very much. This seems to solve the problem. Maybe it's not perfectly robust, though. The function now works when the number of lists exactly matches the number of slur fragments. I'm not sure if this has been the case earlier or if it had been a little bit more

Re: is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello David, I would write #(shape-slur offsets) here: there is no need for an immediate Scheme expression here (the point of $ over # is that the syntactical function of the $ expression is determined by its expression type, but here the syntactical function needed is Scheme anyway). thank

Re: Problem with articulate.ly

2012-04-27 Thread Colin Hall
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:04:20AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: James pkx1...@gmail.com writes: This also occurs on 2.14.2. We've had some changes made to articulate.ly recently for 2.15.x - phew! So this isn't a regression in LP code. articulate.ly is not really ported to the new way

table-of-contents page links

2012-04-27 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello list, for some Books, I set the first page number to -1, to start page numbers with the real music. Now the PDF-internal links to the corresponding pages refer to the wrong page: If a tocItem displays page 8 it will open PDF-page 8 but that has the printed page-number 6, if its started

Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread Tiresia GIUNO
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:07:42 +0200 Jonas Olson jol...@kth.se wrote: Even though I do understand the nature of the valveless horn, I do not see why one omits the key signature today. Just tradition doesn't really explain it. Could someone clarify this? Here's how I understand it so far: On

Re: is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Urs, On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Hello Jan-Peter, thank you very much. This seems to solve the problem. Maybe it's not perfectly robust, though. The function now works when the number of lists exactly matches the number of slur fragments. I'm not

Re: is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Urs, On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 6:51 AM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Urs, I've rewritten shape-slur so that you should be able to use lists of offsets which don't match with the number of slur fragments. I've tested it somewhat, but if you run into a problem, let me

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Ruedas
Hi Kieren, On 27/4/12 3:41 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: It should be easy to define a custom context (e.g. MultiStaffPiano) to behave this way — perhaps when you've got it worked out as you think it should behave, you can add it to the codebase? I would like to, but I guess I would have to know

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Ruedas
Hi David, On 27/4/12 10:34 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Thomas Ruedasrue...@dtm.ciw.edu writes: i.e., my main concern here is the situation where you may have more than two staves, which is a much more common situation. Why would you be using a PianoStaff for those? I'm not sure I understand

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, In some piano music, you may have three different levels, as it were, e.g. a melodic line in the treble, played by the right hand, a deep bass consisting of long notes in the left hand, and in between chords filling in the time between the bass notes, also played by the left hand. In such

Re: is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread Urs Liska
Hi David, thank you for now. I'll look into it. But isn't it very likely that I have to reshape a slur anyway when it changes from broken to unbroken? In that case I'd even say the errors are a 'feature' so you notice it ... Provided it is documented enough not to drive you crazy ... Best

Re: String Bass Notation

2012-04-27 Thread Tim Roberts
Vaughan McAlley wrote: On 19 April 2012 03:08, Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote: This is a hand-drawn score. I'm thinking that they probably meant snap pizzicato, and it was easier to draw the line all the way through than to stop part way through. Snap pizzicato would fit in the context,

Re: String Bass Notation

2012-04-27 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Tim Roberts t...@probo.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: Re: String Bass Notation Vaughan McAlley wrote: On 19 April 2012 03:08, Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote: This is a hand-drawn score. I'm thinking that they

Re: is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Urs, On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Hi David, thank you for now. I'll look into it. But isn't it very likely that I have to reshape a slur anyway when it changes from broken to unbroken? In that case I'd even say the errors are a 'feature' so you

Re: printing empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread Stjepan Horvat
or by \repeat unfold 32 { s1 } On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Choan Gálvez choan.gal...@gmail.comwrote: On 4/25/12 15:10 , rathcof...@comcast.net wrote: The attached .LY file is a 32-bar song with the melody printed in the top staff. What I'm trying to do is print an empty staff beneath

Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread Josiah Boothby
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:07, Jonas Olson jol...@kth.se wrote: On the valveless horn you change crooks to give the instrument a transposition that matches the music. That way, the music is always notated in C major (assuming major mode), just like how music sounding in B♭ major, played on a

Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread Jay Anderson
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Josiah Boothby josi...@gmail.com wrote: When we switch over to valves, we no longer match the transposition of the instrument to the key of the music, so it's only natural for other key signatures to appear. To continue the tradition of valveless horns, one

Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread Jonas Olson
Interesting to see the variations that occur. fre 2012-04-27 klockan 11:50 -0700 skrev Tim Reeves: Mozart horn concerto in D major (1791) - originally played on a natural horn with a D crook, so written with no key signature - the modern player playing on an F horn simply (!) transposes the

Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread Tim Roberts
Jay Anderson wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Josiah Boothby josi...@gmail.com wrote: That would be hilarious. I would pay you twenty-five cents to arrange the horn parts to, say, Tristan und Isolde so that each new fingering is notated as a crook change. I'd pay fifty cents if it was

Re: Using \tempo or multiple events in define-event-function

2012-04-27 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello David, Sorry for replying so late :( On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:31:15 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Pavel Roskin pro...@gnu.org writes: Yup. define-event-function can only be used to return _one_ postevent. Too bad. I'm glad I don't really need one :) There is an

Re: table-of-contents page links

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Morley
Am 27. April 2012 12:36 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de: Hello list, for some Books, I set the first page number to -1, to start page numbers with the real music. Now the PDF-internal links to the corresponding pages refer to the wrong page: If a tocItem displays page 8 it will open

Re: is shapeSlur broken?

2012-04-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.04.2012 19:30, schrieb David Nalesnik: Hi Urs, On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de mailto:li...@ursliska.de wrote: Hi David, thank you for now. I'll look into it. But isn't it very likely that I have to reshape a slur anyway when it changes

Re: table-of-contents page links

2012-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes: Am 27. April 2012 12:36 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de: Hello list, for some Books, I set the first page number to -1, to start page numbers with the real music. Now the PDF-internal links to the corresponding pages refer to the

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext doesn't remove empty staff

2012-04-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Thomas, I would like to, but I guess I would have to know GUILE/Scheme and/or C++ in order to do that Not really… Just Lilypond. What are the features/behaviours you want? I'm sure we can quickly build it together. Cheers, Kieren. ___

Re: table-of-contents page links

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Morley
Am 28. April 2012 01:07 schrieb David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Shouldn't (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'first-page-number) do the trick? Surprisingly not! If first-page-number is not set it returns 3 setting 2 gives 4 setting 3 gives 5 ... Well, the relationship is linear. One could deal with it.

Re: Notation of french horn

2012-04-27 Thread Josiah Boothby
That would be hilarious. I would pay you twenty-five cents to arrange the horn parts to, say, Tristan und Isolde so that each new fingering is notated as a crook change. I'd pay fifty cents if it was actually legible. Wagner sometimes got close to this. Look at the first horn part to