Re: not so nice horizontal spacing

2012-09-19 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Janek, I've read the discussion You have mentioned but I couldn't find a solution there, a working command that reduces the discance between the accidentals and the music. Could it maybee done with \override Accidental #'X-extent = #'(x . y)? 2012/9/16 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com

Re: not so nice horizontal spacing

2012-09-19 Thread Nick Payne
On 19/09/12 17:39, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Janek, I've read the discussion You have mentioned but I couldn't find a solution there, a working command that reduces the discance between the accidentals and the music. You can use Score.AccidentalPlacement #'right-padding, which has a default

Re: Placing dynamic and hairpin

2012-09-19 Thread Peter Gentry
Davids second solution is even better { g'''4 -\tweak #'X-offset #-2.7 \p ( \ e'''4 \! \ d'''4 \!) } Clearly I need to do my homework on -\tweak which does seem a more intuitive way forward. If I have a criticism of Lilypond syntax it is that it is not always intuitive - that is why learning

F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread keith Luke
Does anyone know why the flats appear our of order when the key signature is F-flat? F-Flat.ly Description: Binary data F-Flat.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Phil Holmes
That looks correct to me. Accidentals are placed in the order they are placed on the stave - so normally it would be Bb, Eb, etc. However, the Bbb is placed last, replacing the first Bb, so it appears last in the list of accidentals. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From:

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, keith Luke wrote: Does anyone know why the flats appear our of order when the key signature is F-flat? Not an answer to your question, but why are the flats to big and don't fit the staff, making them hard to read ? -- MT

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl To: keith Luke kkll...@gmail.com Cc: Lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:03 AM Subject: Re: F-flat Key Signature On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, keith Luke wrote: Does anyone know why

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/9/19 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: - Original Message - From: Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl To: keith Luke kkll...@gmail.com Cc: Lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:03 AM Subject: Re: F-flat Key Signature On Tue, 18 Sep

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Mark Knoop
At 12:43 on 19 Sep 2012, Thomas Morley wrote: Image: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fes-dur Theoretical text (in german): http://books.google.de/books?id=D6ZZFHIuQ54Cpg=PA68lpg=PA68ots=oEy-27k2LKdq=fes-durhl=de Interestingly, on the english wikipedia page the B double flat is notated first, I think

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.09.2012 13:02, schrieb Mark Knoop: At 12:43 on 19 Sep 2012, Thomas Morley wrote: Image: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fes-dur Theoretical text (in german): http://books.google.de/books?id=D6ZZFHIuQ54Cpg=PA68lpg=PA68ots=oEy-27k2LKdq=fes-durhl=de Interestingly, on the english wikipedia page

Re: not so nice horizontal spacing

2012-09-19 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/9/19 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net: On 19/09/12 17:39, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Janek, I've read the discussion You have mentioned but I couldn't find a solution there, a working command that reduces the discance between the accidentals and the music. You can use

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread David Nalesnik
Hello, On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Vaughan McAlley vaug...@mcalley.net.au wrote: I appreciate the difference between sharps flats more than many musicians, but even I would introduce an enharmonic change rather than use a key signature with a double-flat, if only to save time at

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Vaughan McAlley
On 19 September 2012 21:11, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: So like in a Fifo buffer the first accidentals (f sharp or b flat a.s.o.) are bumped out - the double accidentals go at the end. Yes, it seems the order is correct, it just looks strange because I’ve never seen such a key

alternatives

2012-09-19 Thread Éric Bouvéron
Bonjour, Je n'arrive pas à régler un problème avec des alternatives. À la mesure %16, ma pause n'est pas prise en compte. Puis, je souhaiterais avoir après cette pause le symbole de reprise suivant: « :|| » et j'obtiens « :||: » Enfin, à la volta, le symbole de continuation s'arrête à la

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.09.2012 16:21, schrieb David Nalesnik: Hello, On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Vaughan McAlley vaug...@mcalley.net.au wrote: I appreciate the difference between sharps flats more than many musicians, but even I would introduce an enharmonic change rather than use a key signature with a

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread David Rogers
keith Luke kkll...@gmail.com writes: Does anyone know why the flats appear our of order when the key signature is F-flat? I'm really only summarizing what's been said: that it's probably already correct, that it's probably a bad idea to use it, and that the score is truly unreadable with the

AW: Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread michael.strebl
Hi, I have to agree with david. I studied music and piano and i never saw a piece composed with key-signature f-flat. It would be completly unreadable. Any musician would reject to study a piece with a double-flat in the key-signature. It's amazing that lilypond supports such strange things but

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.09.2012 18:26, schrieb michael.str...@boehringer-ingelheim.com: Hi, I have to agree with david. I studied music and piano and i never saw a piece composed with key-signature f-flat. It would be completly unreadable. Any musician would reject to study a piece with a double-flat in the

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Mark Knoop
At 17:10 on 19 Sep 2012, Urs Liska wrote: BTW it was also Schumann who stated that Chopin sometimes waited a few chord progressions too long before writing the enharmonic change. Even Chopin chose C# minor rather than D-flat minor for the second section of Op 28 no 15.

Re: alternatives

2012-09-19 Thread Helge Kruse
Hello Eric, unfortunately my french is not sufficient. So I probably misread something. But I want to to try... Quelqu'un peut-il m'expliquer où j'ai commis une erreur, Probably it's a good idea to reduce the example, e.g. you could omit the repriseaudebut since it's never used. I found the

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread Hans Aberg
On 19 Sep 2012, at 18:42, Urs Liska wrote: Just write e-major and the musicans will be thankfull ;-). But F flat _is_ different from E, especially in its relationship to other, 'normal' keys. F flat has a quite simple relation to G flat that might happen in real music. So I'm happy that

Re: Placing dynamic and hairpin

2012-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Gentry peter.gen...@sunscales.co.uk writes: Davids second solution is even better { g'''4 -\tweak #'X-offset #-2.7 \p ( \ e'''4 \! \ d'''4 \!) } Clearly I need to do my homework on -\tweak which does seem a more intuitive way forward. Well, I am working on getting rid of the - in

Re: F-flat Key Signature

2012-09-19 Thread David Rogers
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: But F flat _is_ different from E, especially in its relationship to other, 'normal' keys. F flat has a quite simple relation to G flat that might happen in real music. So I'm happy that LilyPond offers to explicitely write it down instead of refusing to do

Possible feature request for 'q' shorthand or tie syntax

2012-09-19 Thread Jim Long
A humble suggestion Please educate me if there is already a way to do this, but it appears that 'q' as a shorthand for the repetition of the previous note(s) only works for chords. It would be handy if it worked for single notes also, specifically in ties. \time 12/8 \partial 8 aes8

Re: Possible feature request for 'q' shorthand or tie syntax

2012-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes: A humble suggestion Please educate me if there is already a way to do this, but it appears that 'q' as a shorthand for the repetition of the previous note(s) only works for chords. It would be handy if it worked for single notes also,

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

2012-09-19 Thread bthom
Any idea how you could use this fixed-bars per line engraver in conjunction w/no indentation on first line of score? I tried adding After \Score I tried adding: % don't indent first line indent = 0.0 \cm But the first line remains embedded. Thanks for any advice on this

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

2012-09-19 Thread Nick Payne
On 20/09/12 08:43, bthom wrote: Any idea how you could use this fixed-bars per line engraver in conjunction w/no indentation on first line of score? I tried adding After \Score I tried adding: % don't indent first line indent = 0.0 \cm But the first line remains

Text spanners and line breaks

2012-09-19 Thread Nathan
Hello list, In the below code, how do I get rid of the a tempo at the end of first line and the poco rit. at the beginning of the second line? I couldn't find anything in the docs or the internals, but maybe I'm not looking hard enough. %%% \version 2.16.0 \relative c' { \override

Curiousity question about explicitClefVisibility

2012-09-19 Thread Jim Long
I just stubbed my toe on something silly, and I don't understand why it is the way it is. Why does this work: \version 2.16.0 \score { \relative c' { c4 c c c \break \set Staff.explicitClefVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible \clef bass c4 c c c \unset

Re: Possible feature request for 'q' shorthand or tie syntax

2012-09-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
des is perfectly repeatable by q. Do we have this in the docs? Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Possible feature request for 'q' shorthand or tie syntax

2012-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: des is perfectly repeatable by q. Do we have this in the docs? I don't think explicitly, but why wouldn't it work?. , by the way, is not repeatable since q4 would not exactly make a lot of sense. -- David Kastrup

Re: Curiousity question about explicitClefVisibility

2012-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes: But this doesn't: \version 2.16.0 \score { \relative c' { c4 c c c \break \set Staff.explicitClefVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible \clef bass \unset Staff.explicitClefVisibility c4 c c c \break } } I

Re: Possible feature request for 'q' shorthand or tie syntax

2012-09-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
des is perfectly repeatable by q. Do we have this in the docs? I don't think explicitly, but why wouldn't it work?. Whether it works is not the question, but rather that people don't have this in mind while looking for a repetition possibility of a single note. Even I, being quite well

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

2012-09-19 Thread bthom
Hi, I'm now wondering if there's a way to modify this 4-bars-per-line engraving function I found at the forum so that it does the following: 1. print a pickup partial measure on the right-hand side of a single line (not spanning entire line but using, say, the width that would make sense in