Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello Urs, Antonio and list, this is a great tutorial Urs. I will recommend it to people whom I gave introductions and who want to step further. I recently introduced one guy, with plain lilypond (no scheme, no tricks) to produce some SATB-sheets. As we can see in this thread, there are a lot

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread SoundsFromSound
Wow...this score reminds me of why I use LilyPond for all my final engravings - it looks stunning man, GREAT job. Thank you for sharing! Ben Antonio Gervasoni wrote Wow! I didn't expect all this enthusiasm and eagerness to collaborate... at least no so fast! Ben wrote: That's very

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
How does Fairplay look to you? http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Playfair+Display Thanks for the suggestion! Yes, the font looks nice, and it is quite compact. However, I'm not too happy with the italic shape which is a bit too ornamental for my taste (and contains too many very thin

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
4. http://arkandis.tuxfamily.org/adffonts.html What do you think about Tribun and Romande there? The condensed Tribun looks nice. I know Hirwen Harendal, author of this font, so in case you need something special, just tell me :-) Werner ___

Re: Tremolo Fails To Compile

2013-01-09 Thread Eluze
Bob Langford wrote Greetings, 2.14.2 4/4 time This halts the compiler: \repeat tremolo 8 { bes16 e } here this only halts the compiling if the default language is not nederlands - but I am on version 2.17.9 can you provide a full example to show the problem thanks Eluze --

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 09:43, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: 4. http://arkandis.tuxfamily.org/adffonts.html What do you think about Tribun and Romande there? The condensed Tribun looks nice. This is one of the fonts I intended to test more thoroughly. I know Hirwen Harendal, author of this font, so in

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 01/08/2013 12:23 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Am 07.01.2013 10:14, schrieb Urs Liska: Dear community, I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. Hi all, thank you for your diverse suggestions. [...] But I'd still be pleased by further suggestions. Hi

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 01/09/2013 10:01 AM, Alexander Kobel wrote: If you use your Google-fu, you'll find a wealth of discussion whether or not the CorelDRAW should be avoided by professional typesetters [...] Also, you can have a look at the following of the Scribus project's wiki pages:

Re: Repeat in Score and in Midi

2013-01-09 Thread EmilLask
Yes, but if I use \repeat ... and \unfoldRepeats it repeats one measure only. How can I repeat more than one measure in parallel mode? Emil -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Repeat-in-Score-and-in-Midi-tp139046p139107.html Sent from the User mailing

Re: Repeat in Score and in Midi

2013-01-09 Thread curtmcd
Hi, I do it by using one \score for the layout and another \score for the MIDI. For example, see below. Regards, -Curt mainRh = { [music...] } mainLh = { [music...] } codaRh = { [music...] } codaLh = { [music...] } \score { \new PianoStaff \new Staff = rh { \repeat volta 2 \mainRh

Re: Repeat in Score and in Midi

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
EmilLask laske...@gmail.com writes: Yes, but if I use \repeat ... and \unfoldRepeats it repeats one measure only. How can I repeat more than one measure in parallel mode? \unfoldRepeats is a command working on the immediately following piece of music. If you write \unfoldRepeats x y z

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 10:01, schrieb Alexander Kobel: On 01/08/2013 12:23 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Am 07.01.2013 10:14, schrieb Urs Liska: Dear community, I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. Hi all, thank you for your diverse suggestions. [...] But I'd

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-09 Thread Luigi
karol karolm2 at wp.pl writes: You have to use shape-tie function. First create file shape-tie.ly and paste the following code: Then include shape-tie.ly in your document and you can do something like: Those numbers are vector pairs (x y x y x y x y). Each pair refers to different

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-09 Thread Luigi
karol karolm2 at wp.pl writes: You have to use shape-tie function. First create file shape-tie.ly and paste the following code: ... CUT and of course inserted a line with \include shape-tie.ly sorry :). ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 04:29, schrieb Antonio Gervasoni: Wow! I didn't expect all this enthusiasm and eagerness to collaborate... at least no so fast! Well, the risk may be that it is a case of immediate enthusiasm which might fade away when there aren't immediate results ;-) Ben wrote: That's

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hello Urs, Antonio and list, this is a great tutorial Urs. Thanks! I will recommend it to people whom I gave introductions and who want to step further. I recently introduced one guy, with plain lilypond (no scheme, no tricks) to produce some

Re: Layout behaviour arising from '\set chordChanges = ##t'

2013-01-09 Thread Eluze
thanks, Jim added to the tracker as https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3092thanks=3092ts=1357730898 another - not perfect - workaround is using less chordnames than there are notes: { aes*1*:7.5-9- q q q } Eluze -- View this message in context:

Re: Tremelo Fails To Compile

2013-01-09 Thread martinwguy
On 9 January 2013 06:59, Bob Langford buffet1150...@verizon.net wrote: \repeat tremolo 8 { bes16 e } Hi, Can you submit a complete example score that show this behaviour and say which version of lilypond you are using and on which platform (linux/windows/etc). Thanks M

Re: Tremelo Fails To Compile

2013-01-09 Thread martinwguy
On 9 January 2013 12:36, martinwguy martinw...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 January 2013 06:59, Bob Langford buffet1150...@verizon.net wrote: \repeat tremolo 8 { bes16 e } Hi, Can you submit a complete example score that show this behaviour and say which version of lilypond you are using and on

Re: ChordNames default font

2013-01-09 Thread Eluze
Martin Tarenskeen wrote I find the default choice of font and fontsize for ChordNames extremely ugly. I know, it's a matter of personal taste. But has there ever been a poll/vote among Lilypond users about this? I have a feeling that I am not the only one who *always* uses \override to

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-09 Thread karol
If you are using 2.14.2 then change to Does this work? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Shifting-ties-horizontally-tp139068p139120.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: ChordNames default font

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl writes: Hi, I find the default choice of font and fontsize for ChordNames extremely ugly. I know, it's a matter of personal taste. No, it isn't. Fonts are designed for purposes. The purpose of a running text font is to group into words as visual

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello Urs, Am 09.01.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: I really would like to discuss this stuff with other ponders - but this list should'nt be spoiled with such discussions and scare new users with intimate scheme-expressions ... If we would

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-09 Thread Luigi
karol karolm2 at wp.pl writes: If you are using 2.14.2 then change to Does this work? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Shifting-ties-horizontally-tp139068p139120.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. no, it doesn't. I

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 01/08/2013 09:35 PM, Urs Liska wrote: During the development of a musical edition some others and me created the base for a kind of LilyPond toolkit library. When the edition is finished we'll change that to be an open source project hosted on Github. This will consist of sets of

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/1/8 Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de: You can have a look at http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks.html if you want. Urs: in http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks/12-the-first-voice.html should it be

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 17:18, schrieb Dave Crossland: Impallari's Libre Baskerville, perhaps? www.impallari.com While it looks very nice, judging from the samples on the web page this font is too wide also (no significant improvement) Thanks anyway Best Urs

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 13:48, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hello Urs, Am 09.01.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: I really would like to discuss this stuff with other ponders - but this list should'nt be spoiled with such discussions and scare new users with

Re: Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-09 Thread Shane Brandes
That bug if it still happening has been around since at least 2009. I saw one of my scores the other day with the faulty barlines with that date. I recommend using Okular it is in some ways preferable to even Acrobat reader. Shane On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Carlo Stemberger

Re: Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-09 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/1/9 Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net: That bug if it still happening has been around since at least 2009. I saw one of my scores the other day with the faulty barlines with that date. I recommend using Okular it is in some ways preferable to even Acrobat reader. In my experience, this

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 17:32, schrieb vern adams: Sounds like you need to look at raising funds to have a font made to perfectly for your needs. Not really. I already have a font that suits my (personal) needs perfectly. I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly Best Urs

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Impallari's Libre Baskerville, perhaps? www.impallari.com This is indeed a beautiful font! However, a condensed shape is missing, and this is what would be urgently needed for vocal scores and the like. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Sounds like you need to look at raising funds to have a font made to perfectly for your needs. Or a font like Pablo's Libre Baskerville customised to your needs. I can highly recommend this approach, it can be a great investment for your own product. Go for it! Indeed! I had similar ideas

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
One of the things to be clear about for yourself and the designer you work with is what the medium you want it to work in will be. For example is this mainly a font for printing on paper? Is it for the web too? Do you want it to work well in fine printing? Do you only care about laser

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
Precisely. It makes sense to fund a public resource. If you see something close to what you want Playfair for example, you could ask the designer to make a version with less contrast as Libre software and fund that work. He probably has a lower contrast version already. -e. On Jan 9, 2013, at

Re: Repeat in Score and in Midi

2013-01-09 Thread EmilLask
Thank everyone very much and thank Hwaen Ch'uqi particularly for the suggestions and the examples. All more efficient or elegant solutions will be welcome. Ex. global = { \key c \major \time 4/4 } \parallelMusic #'(voiceA voiceB) { c'' c'' c'' c'' | %voiceA measure 1 c' c' c'

Re: Repeat in Score and in Midi

2013-01-09 Thread EmilLask
EC Ex. global = { \key c \major \time 4/4 } \parallelMusic #'(voiceA voiceB) { c'' c'' c'' c'' | %voiceA measure 1 c' c' c' c' | %voiceB measure 1 g' g' g' g'| %voiceA measure 2 g g g g | %voiceB measure 2 } \parallelMusic #'(voiceC voiceD) { c'

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Hello Eben! One of the things to be clear about for yourself and the designer you work with is what the medium you want it to work in will be. For example is this mainly a font for printing on paper? Yes. Is it for the web too? No. Do you want it to work well in fine printing? Do

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly That's what i mean. Free software needs funding too :) On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:47, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Precisely. It makes sense to fund a public resource. If you see something close to what you want

Re: Tremelo Fails To Compile

2013-01-09 Thread Bob Langford
Thanks ! for the assistance. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, Lilypond 2.14.2 and Jedit via Synaptic, Lilypond tool ACER 5013 notebook .ly file attached. I've commented out what doesn't work and left in the half-note tremolos. Too see the compiler fail, comment out the half-notes and remove % from the

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Hello Eben! One of the things to be clear about for yourself and the designer you work with is what the medium you want it to work in will be. For example is this mainly a font for printing on paper? Yes. Is it for the web too? No. Beg to differ.

Re: Evince

2013-01-09 Thread Johan Vromans
Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net writes: That bug if it still happening has been around since at least 2009. I saw one of my scores the other day with the faulty barlines with that date. I recommend using Okular it is in some ways preferable to even Acrobat reader. See

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Dave Crossland
Impallari's Libre Baskerville, perhaps? www.impallari.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread vern adams
Sounds like you need to look at raising funds to have a font made to perfectly for your needs. Or a font like Pablo's Libre Baskerville customised to your needs. I can highly recommend this approach, it can be a great investment for your own product. Go for it! -v On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:29,

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread vern adams
That's what i mean. Free software needs funding too :) On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:47, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 January 2013 12:07, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: The font should cover the most important languages used for `classical' vocal music, especially operas. This includes Italian, German, French, Czech (e.g. Dvořák), Russian (in Cyrillic), English, probably Hungarian (Bartók). Today

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Dave Crossland
The price depends on the details of the project; mainly the number of family styles, the character set, and the delivery schedule. Designing a single style latin-1 font in 2 weeks is relatively expensive ($3,000 minimum) versus a 10 style family with latin 1-2-3-4 in 2 months ($10,000 min)

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Vern, can you give a rough estimate about the financial frame? Yes i would generally echo what Dave and Eben have said said on costs; and note these would be minimum costs; The price depends on the details of the project; mainly the number of family styles, the character set, and the

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 19:11, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly That's what i mean. Free software needs funding too :) On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:47, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Precisely. It makes sense to fund a public resource. If you see

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 19:37, schrieb Dave Crossland: On 9 January 2013 12:07, Werner LEMBERGw...@gnu.org wrote: The font should cover the most important languages used for `classical' vocal music, especially operas. This includes Italian, German, French, Czech (e.g. Dvořák), Russian (in Cyrillic),

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: Am 09.01.2013 19:11, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly That's what i mean. Free software needs funding too :) On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:47, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Precisely. It makes sense

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
The font should cover the most important languages used for `classical' vocal music, especially operas. This includes Italian, German, French, Czech (e.g. Dvořák), Russian (in Cyrillic), English, probably Hungarian (Bartók). Today it's common that the original language is typeset in

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
vern adams v...@newtypography.co.uk writes: On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:54, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: Vern, can you give a rough estimate about the financial frame? Yes i would generally echo what Dave and Eben have said said on costs; and note these would be minimum costs; To put

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread vern adams
On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:54, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: Vern, can you give a rough estimate about the financial frame? Yes i would generally echo what Dave and Eben have said said on costs; and note these would be minimum costs; The price depends on the details of the project; mainly

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Actually, I would rather like to have a font which exactly clones the old lyrics font. But this is probably me only. This points to one problem I see with this approach: If one wanted to create something new (or rework something existing) there would be _much_ discussion to do. And I

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
What's the difference between `fine' and `laser' printing? It is a question of the level of detail. If you are making a font for laser printers you have to avoid certain characteristics in shapes. The shapes have to be more gross or brutal to reproduce well. If you know you want something

Re: Tremelo Fails To Compile

2013-01-09 Thread martinwguy
On 9 January 2013 19:13, Bob Langford buffet1150...@verizon.net wrote: Thanks ! for the assistance. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, Lilypond 2.14.2 and Jedit via Synaptic, Lilypond tool ACER 5013 notebook .ly file attached. I've commented out what doesn't work and left in the half-note tremolos.

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Antonio Gervasoni
Urs wrote: Well, the risk may be that it is a case of immediate enthusiasm which might fade away when there aren't immediate results ;-) Yes, I am aware of that! So I have already decided that I will definitely document my approach to the matter. If the collaborative effort is successful

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Antonio Gervasoni
Urs wrote: From those options I'd prefer Google over Facebook. Not less scary, but I'd consider Google more as a platform for actually _work_ together (although this might be strictly emotional ...) I couldn't think of Facebook as an alternative. GogleSites seems like a nice one. One of the

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
There is a good chance that LilyPond can do decidedly better than it does now without the necessity of producing new fonts, by making better use of currently available free fonts. I'd rather see those venues explored first. Yes, certainly. But more importantly: _iff_ LilyPond and Feta are

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 20:30, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: Actually, I would rather like to have a font which exactly clones the old lyrics font. But this is probably me only. This points to one problem I see with this approach: If one wanted to create something new (or rework something existing) there

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: You will want someone who is sensitive to Cyrillic to Latin and who can manage the difficulties of the dense use of diacritics in Czech set which are significant. Is Polish relevant? Interestingly, no. There aren't any

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 21:25, schrieb Janek Warchoł: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: You will want someone who is sensitive to Cyrillic to Latin and who can manage the difficulties of the dense use of diacritics in Czech set which are significant. Is Polish relevant?

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 20:07, schrieb David Kastrup: At least with regard to chord names, the current situation is untenable. That does not necessarily mean that a new font needs to be developed. But one way or the other, the default look of LilyPond needs to be more consistent and less ugly. If one

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Is it for the web too? No. Beg to differ. Formatting for electronic display of music is one of the more important application areas for LilyPond. Beg to differ, too. A `web font' is essentially a font suitable for a computer display with a (quite) low resolution. In particular, such a

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 20:58, schrieb Antonio Gervasoni: Urs wrote: Well, the risk may be that it is a case of immediate enthusiasm which might fade away when there aren't immediate results ;-) Yes, I am aware of that! So I have already decided that I will definitely document my approach to the

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Hello Janek! ?! How are we supposed to typeset Frédéric Chopin's songs written to polish lyrics, then? Or Moniuszko's operas? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Moniuszko#Operas] As a Pole i feel seriously discriminated - after all, isn't LilyPond supposed to provide music

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 22:00, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm a pianist, and I know Chopin very well and like him a lot, but I have *never* heard or played a song written by him. I have two complete recordings of Chopin's songs, one of them published by the Deutsche Grammophon. So they are existent.

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 22:05, schrieb Urs Liska: Am 09.01.2013 22:00, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm a pianist, and I know Chopin very well and like him a lot, but I have *never* heard or played a song written by him. I have two complete recordings of Chopin's songs, one of them published by the Deutsche

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Is it for the web too? No. Beg to differ. Formatting for electronic display of music is one of the more important application areas for LilyPond. Beg to differ, too. A `web font' is essentially a font suitable for a computer display with a (quite)

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Hello Janek! ?! How are we supposed to typeset Frédéric Chopin's songs written to polish lyrics, then? Or Moniuszko's operas? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Moniuszko#Operas] As a Pole i feel seriously discriminated - after all, isn't

Re: Tremelo Fails To Compile

2013-01-09 Thread Bob Langford
I'm using the 32-bit version of Ubuntu 12.04 ... Here's the console output: Processing `/home/robert/Desktop/test.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8] Preprocessing graphical objects... Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems...lilypond:

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: Of course it is ambitious, but I'd agree that conceptually LilyPond should be able to typeset in any language. Right-to-left languages are distinctly tricky. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Wow. This is a large project in terms of glyph coverage then. :-) It can evolve, starting with Latin-1 Latin-2, for example. That makes sense. And Latin-2 covers Polish also... Urs writes: Sorry to say, but this is utter nonsense. It's a matter of fact that from an international

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Tablets and/or electronic ink are becoming increasingly important players in music. URL:http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57546915-1/orchestra-swaps-sheet-music-for-the-galaxy-note-10.1/ Oh, by the way: while we are using a device that has an unfavorably

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
On Jan 9, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: What's the difference between `fine' and `laser' printing? It is a question of the level of detail. If you are making a font for laser printers you have to avoid certain characteristics in shapes. The shapes have to be more gross or

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 January 2013 16:03, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: What i meant is: i would feel sorry if i couldn't use LilyPond's new, unique, custom-designed professional font to engrave polish national anthem or any other polish song because someone decided that polish language is not

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Beg to differ, too. A `web font' is essentially a font suitable for a computer display with a (quite) low resolution. In particular, such a font contains hints to intentionally distort the glyph shapes, making them render fine on such devices. Lilypond fonts and its other graphical

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
#1 VerdiItalian (3020 szenical runs) #2 Mozart German/Italian (2410) #8 BizetFrench (654) How many of those are Carmen? For the purpose of LilyPonding, number of _different_ performed compositions might be interesting. OK, some more

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
What i meant is: i would feel sorry if i couldn't use LilyPond's new, unique, custom-designed professional font to engrave polish national anthem or any other polish song because someone decided that polish language is not important enough to be supported. The way crowd funding works on

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
What i meant is: i would feel sorry if i couldn't use LilyPond's new, unique, custom-designed professional font to engrave polish national anthem or any other polish song because someone decided that polish language is not important enough to be supported. So what about the people from, say,

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 14:09, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: On 01/08/2013 09:35 PM, Urs Liska wrote: During the development of a musical edition some others and me created the base for a kind of LilyPond toolkit library. ... This sounds like it would be a very useful tool for lots of people, and

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Francisco Vila
El 09/01/2013 22:00, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org escribió: #87 ChapíSpanish (?) (21) Yes, Spanish. Covered by Latin-1. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Francisco Vila
El 09/01/2013 21:05, Antonio Gervasoni agervas...@gmail.com escribió: Urs wrote: From those options I'd prefer Google over Facebook. Not less scary, but I'd consider Google more as a platform for actually _work_ together (although this might be strictly emotional ...) I couldn't think

Re: Layout behaviour arising from '\set chordChanges = ##t'

2013-01-09 Thread Colin Hall
Jim Long writes: On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 03:33:27AM -0800, Eluze wrote: thanks, Jim added to the tracker as https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3092thanks=3092ts=1357730898 another - not perfect - workaround is using less chordnames than there are notes: {

Digest configuration

2013-01-09 Thread James Harkins
It had occurred to me in the past that lilypond user digests were maybe too small, but I didn't mention it as it hasn't reached the point of becoming an inconvenience. Now... overnight, I got 11 digests in a span of about 6 hours. When I sign up for a list in digest mode, I expect 1-3 messages in

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
On Jan 9, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Am 09.01.2013 22:00, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm a pianist, and I know Chopin very well and like him a lot, but I have *never* heard or played a song written by him. I have two complete recordings of Chopin's songs, one of them published by

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hi Werner, first of all, let me assure everyone that the last thing i want is a heated argument. I'll try to be brief: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: Hello Janek! [...] I'm a pianist, and I know

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Aleksandr Andreev
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Eben Sorkin e...@eyebytes.com wrote: Polish is like Czech a bit tricky because it has shapes that needs special treatment and thought. The most obvious are the slashes and ogoneks (Ł ł ą Ą etc. ). The use of w and other diagonals is different and requires

Re: Tremelo Fails To Compile

2013-01-09 Thread Bob Langford
I found I had loaded Lilypond on my Vista machine some time ago. 2.14.0 My file with the whole-note tremolo compiles ok there. So, I'll print out my Violin file there. Thanks for the help. RDL -- View this message in context:

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread SoundsFromSound
Would it be possible to see the ly file for that PDF? :) Antonio Gervasoni wrote At this point I think it might be good to give everyone reading this thread an idea of what I meant with my first post. I just put in my Dropbox the full score I've been working on for the past months. It is not

Re: RUMOR Midi utility Frescobaldi - Menu Error?

2013-01-09 Thread SoundsFromSound
I'm sorry but this does not work. The man icon only shows: Onscreen Keyboard High Contrast Screen Reader How should I proceed? - composer | sound designer -- View this message in context:

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread Antonio Gervasoni
Ben wrote: Would it be possible to see the ly file for that PDF? :) Hi Ben, Yes, of course! The problem is that it is not just one file. There are more than 20 files involved. :-) The file for the complete score includes a file containing the metrics, another one for special definitions, one

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[...] it doesn't change the fact that it should be possible to typeset scores in practically any language, if LilyPond wants to be 'for everyone’. Covering European languages including all the eastern ones is a straightforward task. Cyrillic is non-trivial unless you have be trained. I

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
What i meant is: i would feel sorry if i couldn't use LilyPond's new, unique, custom-designed professional font to engrave polish national anthem or any other polish song because someone decided that polish language is not important enough to be supported. Polish is like Czech a bit tricky

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
At least on Ubuntu, LilyPond supports OpenType glyph substitution and glyph positioning -- something I use quite heavily since I typeset scores in Church Slavonic -- at least the ccmp, rlig, kern, mark, and mkmk features work without any problems (though there seems to be no way to access

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread SoundsFromSound
- composer | sound designer -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Guide-to-Writing-Orchestral-Scores-with-Lilypond-tp139065p139222.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-09 Thread SoundsFromSound
Brilliant - thank you so much! I look forward to the files. Ben Antonio Gervasoni wrote Ben wrote: Would it be possible to see the ly file for that PDF? :) Hi Ben, Yes, of course! The problem is that it is not just one file. There are more than 20 files involved. :-) The file