Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Janek WarchoĊ‚
(i cannot resist my lilypond addiction...) On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: But I probably won't touch [online tutorial] until I reformat it as a PDF version. There had been some valuable comments on this list right after the first 'release' of the

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-10 Thread Luigi
Luigi ld at ngi.it writes: hello, i wrote some code to obtain staff where i can write some guitar rhythms with slash noteheads. All is fine except the fact, ties are tracked from center of standard note, and so the tie looks not very nice. It should start and end to the lowest point of

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello Urs, Am 09.01.2013 um 17:31 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 09.01.2013 13:48, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 09.01.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: I really would like to discuss this stuff with other ponders - but this list should'nt be spoiled with

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Shann
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 14:15 -0600, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, karol karo...@wp.pl wrote: You have to use shape-tie function. First create file shape-tie.ly and paste the following code: The \shape command is available in the

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 09:03, schrieb Janek Warcho?: (i cannot resist my lilypond addiction...) On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: But I probably won't touch [online tutorial] until I reformat it as a PDF version. There had been some valuable comments on this list

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Great! I would like to join in and I am going to host my lib/framework on github too with the option and goal of integration with openLilyLib and/or later lilypond. This morning I created a github account, so I am not familiar with its services (beside the usage of GIT). What are you missing

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 11:25, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Great! I would like to join in and I am going to host my lib/framework on github too with the option and goal of integration with openLilyLib and/or later lilypond. That's great too! This morning I created a github account, What's your user

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 09:33, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hello Urs, Am 09.01.2013 um 17:31 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 09.01.2013 13:48, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 09.01.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: I really would like to discuss this stuff with other

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-10 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Richard, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.netwrote: On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 14:15 -0600, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, karol karo...@wp.pl wrote: You have to use shape-tie function. First create file

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Shann
On Thu, 2013-01-10 at 06:39 -0600, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi Richard, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 14:15 -0600, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi, Is that to say that

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-10 Thread David Nalesnik
Richard, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.netwrote: [...] That's really good news as I am planning to write a graphical routine to create these shapes over the typeset output using the mouse to drag control points and output the needed LilyPond (this is

Re: Ties and multiple voices

2013-01-10 Thread David Kastrup
Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org writes: Hi. I recently noticed that LilyPond apparently can not deal with situations like this: {c1}\\{c'1~} | {c}\\{c'} Where is the problem supposed to be? Wrapping this in { ... } looks just as expected to me. There are two problems: the tie is flipped

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 13:51, schrieb Richard Shann: On Thu, 2013-01-10 at 06:39 -0600, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi Richard, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 14:15 -0600, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi,

Re: Ties and multiple voices

2013-01-10 Thread Mario Lang
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org writes: Hi. I recently noticed that LilyPond apparently can not deal with situations like this: {c1}\\{c'1~} | {c}\\{c'} Where is the problem supposed to be? Wrapping this in { ... } looks just as expected to me. There

Partcombine erratic behaviour

2013-01-10 Thread Hilary Snaden
Using version 2.16.2 on windoze, I have a chunk of (pseudo-)code like this: \score { \new StaffGroup \new Staff \set Staff.soloText = #1. \set Staff.soloIIText = #2. \set Staff.aDueText = #a2 \partcombine \flutea \fluteb \set

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
So, tomorrow I will create a google group and look at the options of a google code site. I am a bit in a hurry - my kids are waiting ;) Cheers, Jan-Peter Am 10.01.2013 12:30, schrieb Urs Liska: Am 10.01.2013 09:33, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hello Urs, Am 09.01.2013 um 17:31 schrieb Urs

Re: Ties and multiple voices

2013-01-10 Thread Noeck
Dear Mario, I see two problems related to ties that I can't really explain/fix given my limited understanding of LilyPond: 1. Ties before a repeat and at the end of alternatives: \version 2.14.2 I would recommend to update to the latest stable version 2.16. \score { { \clef treble

Re: RUMOR Midi utility Frescobaldi - Menu Error?

2013-01-10 Thread Noeck
Am 10.01.2013 05:29, schrieb SoundsFromSound: I'm sorry but this does not work. The man icon only shows: Onscreen Keyboard High Contrast Screen Reader How should I proceed? The man is something else. Try the circle (Ubuntu icon) or footprint (Gnome icon) right next to your user

Re: Partcombine erratic behaviour

2013-01-10 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
On 2013-01-10 16:02, Hilary Snaden wrote: The flute staff switches to explicit voices after two bars, That sounds like one of the two flutes has a spanner that is not ended... Partcombine will only merge the voices, if there are either no spanners (cresc./hairpin/text spanners/etc.) alive,

Re: RUMOR Midi utility Frescobaldi - Menu Error?

2013-01-10 Thread SoundsFromSound
I promise you, I've tried clicking my entire login screen, on 12.10 and there is nothing to interact with. Just the upper panel/bar with the man icon, keyboard, date, etc. and my login name/password. I've clicked all around. What am I missing? I've been using Ubuntu for a few years now, so I

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Shann
On Thu, 2013-01-10 at 16:49 +0100, Urs Liska wrote: Am 10.01.2013 13:51, schrieb Richard Shann: ... Yes, \shape covers the functionality of \shapeTie and can be used for any curve that is specified by control points: Slur, PhrasingSlur, RepeatTie, and LaissezVibrerTie, in addition to Tie.

Re: RUMOR Midi utility Frescobaldi - Menu Error?

2013-01-10 Thread David Kastrup
SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com writes: I promise you, I've tried clicking my entire login screen, on 12.10 and there is nothing to interact with. Just the upper panel/bar with the man icon, keyboard, date, etc. and my login name/password. I've clicked all around. What am I

Re: RUMOR Midi utility Frescobaldi - Menu Error?

2013-01-10 Thread Noeck
I've been using Ubuntu for a few years now, so I know what you mean - there /used /to be a pull down/GNOME menu, but I haven't seen it since 12.10. Ah, I still use 12.04. There I had the choice between Ubuntu and Ubuntu2D and the gnome-options came with the gnome-panel package. I know that

force bookpart to start on left-hand page?

2013-01-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Is there a way to force a bookpart to start on a left-hand page? (i.e., to leave a blank page if necessary) Thanks, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Shifting ties horizontally

2013-01-10 Thread Noeck
Am 10.01.2013 13:51, schrieb Richard Shann: That's really good news as I am planning to write a graphical routine to create these shapes over the typeset output using the mouse to drag control points and output the needed LilyPond (this is from within Denemo, but it would be possible to use

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Antonio Gervasoni
Ben wrote: Brilliant - thank you so much! I look forward to the files. Here's the link: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4857747/Icarus-ly.zip You're welcome! ;-) An important note to anybody who finds this and has not read the previous discussion: these zip file contains the ly files of a work

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 21:15, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: On 01/10/2013 12:09 AM, Urs Liska wrote: It was already discussed on this list: It was a silly idea to use copyrighted material at all for this tutorial. It was just something I was working on at that time, and I didn't really think about

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:43:42AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: * Maintain the library's documentation and the tutorials (starting with Antonio's proposed text on orchestral scores and hopefully with a conversion of my existing tutorial) as a set of LaTeX documents. * I think there is no

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 22:26, schrieb Graham Percival: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:43:42AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: * Maintain the library's documentation and the tutorials (starting with Antonio's proposed text on orchestral scores and hopefully with a conversion of my existing tutorial) as a

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: Am 10.01.2013 22:26, schrieb Graham Percival: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:43:42AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: * Maintain the library's documentation and the tutorials (starting with Antonio's proposed text on orchestral scores and hopefully with a

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 22:37, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: ... Do you think that's a realistic option? Would lilypond documentation be 'open' enough to incorporate material that might not be too tailored to the given structure or style? Various parts of LilyPond's

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: Am 10.01.2013 22:37, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: ... Do you think that's a realistic option? Would lilypond documentation be 'open' enough to incorporate material that might not be too tailored to the given structure or

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 22:56, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: ... So what would be needed from our part (just started to skim through the Texinfo manual)? If we would write the sources for our tutorials as Texinfo documents we could then suggest to add any of them to Lily

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 01/10/2013 10:24 PM, Graham Percival wrote: Unless you are planning this as a protest, I doubt that deliberately setting out to infringe on copyright is a great strategy. Are you really equipped to deal with a lawsuit from music publishers -- especially since there's now a public record of

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 01/10/2013 10:19 PM, Urs Liska wrote: But there had been quite some discussion here whethere lilypond.org could link to such a tutorial or not, and I tend to agree that an Open Source project should have Open Documentation. I agree, but I also think there's a difference between official

Re: RUMOR Midi utility Frescobaldi - Menu Error?

2013-01-10 Thread Shane Brandes
apt get xfce or gnome, that will solve that issue. Shane On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote: I've been using Ubuntu for a few years now, so I know what you mean - there /used /to be a pull down/GNOME menu, but I haven't seen it since 12.10. Ah, I still use

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 23:19, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: ... If you truly want to spend a few hours writing letters to publishers, I would be interested to hear the results. Happy to do so. If Urs can get permission for his bars of Schoenberg from UE, I don't see that it will be a problem for

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.01.2013 23:33, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: On 01/10/2013 10:19 PM, Urs Liska wrote: But there had been quite some discussion here whethere lilypond.org could link to such a tutorial or not, and I tend to agree that an Open Source project should have Open Documentation. I agree,

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 11.01.2013 01:20, schrieb Urs Liska: ... Maybe you're right. Today I realized that I really only have to replace the image, without updating a single word ... Done :-) Sorry, forgot to post where it is:

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 14:50, schrieb Francisco Vila: 2013/1/8 Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de: You can have a look at http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks.html if you want. Urs: in

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 01/11/2013 01:24 AM, Urs Liska wrote: Sorry, forgot to post where it is: http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks/part-1-entering-the-music.html Thanks for that. :-) One note -- there was something I was wondering about looking at your example, and the

multiple files in one

2013-01-10 Thread Shane Brandes
\version 2.17.9 \include a.ly \include b.ly \include etc.ly Yields a problematic result as I have header files in every \include ( every file is its own compilable score) therefore I tried issuing print-all-headers =##t which causes only the title from the last header to print before every

Book title showing up on every score in a songbook (2.14.2)

2013-01-10 Thread Christopher R. Maden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a songbook I created in LilyPond 2.12.3. I recently upgraded to 2.14.2.[*] Suddenly, every song has the book title *and* the song title at the start. Using print-all-headers only makes things worse, as I get the book title but *not* the song

Re: Book title showing up on every score in a songbook (2.14.2)

2013-01-10 Thread Christopher R. Maden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/11/2013 12:06 AM, Christopher R. Maden wrote: I have a songbook I created in LilyPond 2.12.3. I recently upgraded to 2.14.2.[*] (And yes, I did run convert-ly... no bearing on this particular issue, AFAICT, but I suspect someone will ask if

Re: Book title showing up on every score in a songbook (2.14.2)

2013-01-10 Thread Christopher R. Maden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/11/2013 12:06 AM, Christopher R. Maden wrote: Suddenly, every song has the book title *and* the song title at the start. Using print-all-headers only makes things worse, as I get the book title but *not* the song title. A temporary

Re: multiple files in one

2013-01-10 Thread Nick Payne
On 11/01/13 14:37, Shane Brandes wrote: \version 2.17.9 \include a.ly http://a.ly \include b.ly http://b.ly \include etc.ly http://etc.ly Yields a problematic result as I have header files in every \include ( every file is its own compilable score) therefore I tried issuing

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread SoundsFromSound
Incredible share, thank you so much! I wish I knew as much about the includes and whatnot that you do; I only use one file per one score at the moment. I can't seem to figure out how to open say, just one instrument part, of your score. It just renders a blank page. Surely I am missing some

Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

2013-01-10 Thread SoundsFromSound
Oh, duh. Sorry! You're right. Ben Urs Liska-4 wrote I think that's what Antonio referred to: the material is provided 'as is', i.e. only partly useable and understandable. You either have to _work_ your way through it or wait until he has written his essay ;-) SoundsFromSound lt;

Re: multiple files in one

2013-01-10 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 11/01/2013 04:37, Shane Brandes ha scritto: \version 2.17.9 \include a.ly http://a.ly \include b.ly http://b.ly \include etc.ly http://etc.ly Yields a problematic result as I have header files in every \include ( every file is its own compilable score) therefore I tried issuing