2013/12/6 Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com:
Having worked for two corporations that have fairly extensive (and
stringent) visual identity and branding guidelines (colors, typeface,
formatting, etc.), I've learned that there are ways to make an obvious
change between two things while still
Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net writes:
The U.S. has the concept of fair use see 17 U.S.C. § 107
But we want LilyPond to be distributable in more than just the U.S.A.
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Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org schrieb:
We need to figure out how we can provide style sheets, similar to how
LaTeX makes it possible to define document classes (layout
definitions
and tools) and packages (raw functionality packaged into coherent
interfaces).
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/12/6 Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com:
Having worked for two corporations that have fairly extensive (and
stringent) visual identity and branding guidelines (colors, typeface,
formatting, etc.), I've learned that there are ways to make
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes:
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
A real example using a template which
provides an SATB choir on two staves with lyrics between them and
a piano staff with accompaniment is attached.
I've been using a similar approach for SLHML choir,
2013/12/6 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
A suggestion from my colleague: for a long time he kept confusing LM
and NR, and he said that it would be nice if (for example) they had
different color schemes so that one will know where to look at things
Hi Urs and all,
I really have to document, what I did with my packages and what ideas
are behind them. It would need /some/ way to make them a public usable
product, meaning, it has to be documented and a little bit
restructured, but it has a lot of the mentioned features.
So I try to summarize
snippet-icon = 85x85+95+107
Then these lines could produce the corresponding image:
lilypond -fpng example.ly
convert -crop 85x85+95+107 example.png example-icon.png
This seems somewhat inconvenient to me (too manual). But i think we
should rather speak about
2013/12/6 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de:
snippet-icon = 85x85+95+107
Then these lines could produce the corresponding image:
lilypond -fpng example.ly
convert -crop 85x85+95+107 example.png example-icon.png
This seems somewhat inconvenient to me (too manual). But i think we
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
2013/12/6 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de:
snippet-icon = 85x85+95+107
Then these lines could produce the corresponding image:
lilypond -fpng example.ly
convert -crop 85x85+95+107 example.png example-icon.png
This seems somewhat
Well, one does not need numbers. One can just use a tag- or tweak- like
command on elements that should be included in the icon, and then the
bounding rectangle of all those is taken. Possibly always including the
staff lines on the given stretch.
I considered that, too. My reasoning
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
Well, one does not need numbers. One can just use a tag- or tweak- like
command on elements that should be included in the icon, and then the
bounding rectangle of all those is taken. Possibly always including the
staff lines on the given stretch.
I
From: Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 6:34 PM
It's not so much about texinfo but...
... but someone who is an experienced web page designer and/or
JavaScript programmer/user. The separation between content and
presentation is already there due to the very nature
Hi,
2013/12/6 Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net:
I did have a very brief look at the home page however
* why are you out-sourcing tracking (google analytics)?
I suppose that when that was decided upon, there may have been no good
free alternatives to Google Analytics.
But now there
Hi Jan-Peter,
2013/12/6 Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de:
Hi Urs and all,
I really have to document, what I did with my packages and what ideas
are behind them. It would need /some/ way to make them a public usable
product, meaning, it has to be documented and a little bit
restructured, but
- Original Message -
From: Janek Warchol janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:36 PM
The way many Windows installers work is that they present you as a user
with a list of components to select to be installed, of which some will
be
selected (or not) by
From: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:16 AM
* why are you out-sourcing tracking (google analytics)?
I suppose that when that was decided upon, there may have been no good
free alternatives to Google Analytics.
But now there is for example Piwik -
2013/12/4 Jacques Menu imj-...@bluewin.ch
My recent experience creating choir scores for the first time, one of
them with difference words a given stanza in a repeated part (see
attachments), makes me think it would help to have off-the-shelf *commented*
samples of some size and
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:30:19 +0100
From: Janek Warcho? janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
I'm very sorry that i don't have time to look closely at LaLily, but
from what i see, it's very interesting and a move in the right
direction. Probably OrchestralLily
Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net writes:
What exactly is not easy to implement in Joseph Rushton Wakeling's
suggestion of an optional frescobaldi install from lilypond's windows
installer?
That very much provokes the answer Patches welcome, but of course that
might already be too
Carl, you might also like to keep in mind Lilypond's search rankings while
you redesign. A first page listing would bump up traffic considerable, and
shouldn't be hard to achieve given that whoever designed lilypond's homepage
hasn't given any thought to SE ranking - there's just no relevant
2013/12/6 Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net
Carl, you might also like to keep in mind Lilypond's search rankings while
you redesign. A first page listing would bump up traffic considerable, and
shouldn't be hard to achieve given that whoever designed lilypond's
homepage hasn't given any
Hi,
is it possible somehow, to split contents of a music expression into
two? I am asking for a piano staff which I would enter as follows:
upper = { a4\f g f e\p }
lower = { a,1 }
Then use it with a Dynamics context between the staffs and put the
dynamics there and the rest in the upper staff
Federico Bruni writes:
2013/12/6 Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net
Carl, you might also like to keep in mind Lilypond's search rankings while
you redesign.
This is really bad, I never checked it.
1. improve SEO
I guess I'm glad someone notices and seems to care
A side comment, picking up on a comment in the Windows experience thread:
I hope the new site will avoid any hooks to Google analytics or other APIs.
I'm behind the Great Firewall of China, and I see frequently how Google
dependencies cause page loading times to balloon, while the browser waits
From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:43 PM
Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net writes:
What exactly is not easy to implement in Joseph Rushton Wakeling's
suggestion of an optional frescobaldi install from lilypond's windows
installer?
That very much
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
Hi,
is it possible somehow, to split contents of a music expression into
two? I am asking for a piano staff which I would enter as follows:
upper = { a4\f g f e\p }
lower = { a,1 }
Then use it with a Dynamics context between the staffs and put the
Am 06.12.2013 14:48, schrieb David Kastrup:
\version 2.17.29
upper = { a4\f g f e\p }
lower = { a,1 }
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff
\new Voice \with { \remove Dynamic_engraver } \upper
\new Dynamics \upper
\new Staff \lower
Hi David,
it looks good, but it does not work for me
Am 06.12.2013 14:12, schrieb Federico Bruni:
These problems should be recorded in our tracker.
So far I've seen 2 issues/feature requests:
1. improve SEO
2. associate a different color scheme to each manual
I think although not explicitly stated as a feature request the
discussion surely
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
Am 06.12.2013 14:48, schrieb David Kastrup:
\version 2.17.29
upper = { a4\f g f e\p }
lower = { a,1 }
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff
\new Voice \with { \remove Dynamic_engraver } \upper
\new Dynamics \upper
\new Staff \lower
Hi David,
it
Urs Liska m...@ursliska.de writes:
Am 06.12.2013 14:12, schrieb Federico Bruni:
These problems should be recorded in our tracker.
So far I've seen 2 issues/feature requests:
1. improve SEO
2. associate a different color scheme to each manual
I think although not explicitly stated as a
Karol,
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Karol Majewski karo...@wp.pl wrote:
Hi, David
Your function for offsetting control-points of a TieColumn is very useful
to me. Now it would be great if someone could improve it to make it work
with ties over the line break.
I'm glad that you find
Thanks David
Well, what do you expect if you don't specify the version you are using
(by the way: what point is there in using an outdated development
version?)?
laziness and lack of regular use.
Cheers,
Joram
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.netwrote:
From: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:16 AM
* why are you out-sourcing tracking (google analytics)?
I suppose that when that was decided upon, there may have been no
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net writes:
The U.S. has the concept of fair use see 17 U.S.C. § 107
But we want LilyPond to be distributable in more than just the U.S.A.
Indeed. I am not a legal expert by any stretch (I've
- Original Message -
From: Carl Peterson
Here is the question that gets to your question: what are the server-side
capabilities of the LilyPond web server? I think one of the issues is that
some of these require backend capabilities that may or may not be
available.
Also, is the code
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM, James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com wrote:
A side comment, picking up on a comment in the Windows experience thread:
I hope the new site will avoid any hooks to Google analytics or other APIs.
I'm behind the Great Firewall of China, and I see frequently how
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote:
Our server is provided on a goodwill basis, and so we would not want to
use any scripting that might load it.
I was thinking that was the case. This would be a script that would append
all the request headers to a text
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net writes:
The U.S. has the concept of fair use see 17 U.S.C. § 107
But we want LilyPond to be distributable in more than just the U.S.A.
- Original Message -
From: Carl Peterson
I want to eventually eliminate any image file that does not contribute to
content.
The first victim of this will be the gradient images used for the header
and navigation backgrounds.
CSS gradients can be coded for fewer bytes and one less
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:30 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
So any extension announced after the death of an author should
not apply to the works of an author who labored under different
assumptions when creating the work.
+1
Indeed. That said, if a work is in the public domain, it's
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:30 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
So any extension announced after the death of an author should
not apply to the works of an author who labored under different
assumptions when creating the work.
+1
Indeed.
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
- Original Message -
From: Carl Peterson
I want to eventually eliminate any image file that does not
contribute to content.
The first victim of this will be the gradient images used for the
header and navigation backgrounds.
CSS gradients
- Original Message -
From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 3:35 PM
Our server is provided on a goodwill basis, and so we would not want to use
any scripting that might load it.
Carl Perterson wrote:
CSS gradients can be coded for fewer bytes and one
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:47 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:30 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
So any extension announced after the death of an author should
not apply to the works of an author who
- Original Message -
From: Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; Carl Peterson
carlopeter...@gmail.com; James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com
Cc: Mailinglist lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 3:59 PM
Subject: Re:
On 05/12/13 21:18, Janek Warchoł wrote:
as promised, here are engraving comparisons that i hand out to musicians i meet:
What Finale version are you using to generate these examples?
I hate to say this, but from my point of view (as a Lilypond user and
enthusiast) I think that rather than
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote:
Well, yes, as CPU load. I remain of the view that this is not a good use
of time - there are other things that will be of greater value for less
effort. Remember, you'll not be doing this by editing HTML, but the
Hi,
currently \hideNotes does not hide articulations, slurs, ties etc.
Is that on purpose?
{
\hideNotes
a-.\cresc b-\! a?( \parenthesize b) |
a\ ~ a-1 \tuplet 3/2 {a4 a a\f } a4 \glissando a'
}
I would suggest to add this to \hideNotes in ly/property-init.ly and the
corresponding reverts
Thankfully it does not hide articulations. It seems to be the only way
to make cross staff/cross voice slurs in piano/organ scores. I just
spent several hours yesterday doing just that to six pages of music.
It would be great if there was a simpler way and issue 2411 was
resolved. So the invisible
- Original Message -
From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de
To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 4:21 PM
Subject: hideNotes
Hi,
currently \hideNotes does not hide articulations, slurs, ties etc.
Is that on purpose?
{
\hideNotes
a-.\cresc b-\! a?(
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
Hi,
currently \hideNotes does not hide articulations, slurs, ties etc.
Is that on purpose?
Yes. \hideNotes is often used for fudging things like cross-voice
slurs. If you hide everything _attached_ to the notes, where is the
point in using notes at all?
Am 06.12.2013 17:29, schrieb Shane Brandes:
Thankfully it does not hide articulations. It seems to be the only way
to make cross staff/cross voice slurs in piano/organ scores.
Ok, if this is needed (and it hides notes (only) as it says), how about
a similar \hideVoice command that hides all
… and I use the hiding (transparent = ##t) here, because that way the
spacing is preserved (in case you wonder why I write the notes there at
all).
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Am 06.12.2013 17:31, schrieb Phil Holmes:
- Original Message - From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de
To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 4:21 PM
Subject: hideNotes
Hi,
currently \hideNotes does not hide articulations, slurs, ties etc.
Is that on
If you want a real comparison, give two expert users -- one of Finale, one
of
Lilypond -- the same score and give them an hour to engrave as much as they
can,
with the goal that every single bar they engrave is perfect. Then compare
what
they achieve.
While I think this is a good idea, I have a
I just did a Google search on a computer that I've never used/logged into
before. My account was fresh, and I did these searches without any previous
history affecting my results:
Music notation software
Lilypond came in at 25.
Free music notation software
It came in at 11.
Free music
Am 06.12.2013 19:53, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling:
I disagree, because the faults of default Finale output are not
serious faults if they're quick and easy to fix.
Some more aspects to this: How reliably can these faults be fixed? What
happens to the fixes if you screw up with a tweak.
agreed, but Ryan stated he was in the U.S. I am in the and therefore
have had to deal directly with that code of laws, having knowledge of
that useful and interesting bit of the law I mentioned it in the hopes
of spurring on discovery of what others might know about the current
situation across
On 06/12/13 20:02, Urs Liska wrote:
Some more aspects to this: How reliably can these faults be fixed? What happens
to the fixes if you screw up with a tweak. What if the layout changes because of
corrections or a different paper format? How can someone else fix issues in a
score? etc. etc.
From: Ryan McClure ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 6:59 PM
I just did a Google search on a computer that I've never used/logged into
before. My account was fresh, and I did these searches without any
previous
history affecting my results:
Music notation
From: Ryan McClure ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 6:59 PM
I just did a Google search on a computer that I've never used/logged into
before. My account was fresh, and I did these searches without any
previous
history affecting my results:
Music notation
Mr. McClure,
On two previous mailings I have extoled the values of Lilypond for the new
user (loaded mine this last March), or what might be called its out of the
box capabilities. Since installation I have transcribed 20+ piano scores
for my own study and use. All of them are crisper than the
Urs,
2013/12/6 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Urs Liska m...@ursliska.de writes:
Am 06.12.2013 14:12, schrieb Federico Bruni:
These problems should be recorded in our tracker.
So far I've seen 2 issues/feature requests:
1. improve SEO
2. associate a different color scheme to each manual
I
Am 06.12.2013 21:26, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
Urs,
2013/12/6 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Urs Liska m...@ursliska.de writes:
I think although not explicitly stated as a feature request the
discussion surely yields
3. Clarify first steps/new user experience.
I don't think that this is the
On 12/02/2013 02:03 AM, Paul Morris wrote:
I have been keeping my eye on Gittip. It's basically a tool that lets
individuals make ongoing weekly payments to other individuals (or
organizations) to support whatever work they do. It happens that more
often than not this is volunteer work on
Hi,
I always was subconciously aware of the fact that there are quite few
and repeated Pondings on the lilypond.org entry page.
Now I found them in the LilyPond Git repository and noticed that there
really are _only three_ different items!
Come on, it's not possible that the LilyPond
Urs Liska wrote
Hi,
I always was subconciously aware of the fact that there are quite few
and repeated Pondings on the lilypond.org entry page.
Now I found them in the LilyPond Git repository and noticed that there
really are _only three_ different items!
Come on, it's not possible
Am 06.12.2013 22:51, schrieb SoundsFromSound:
Urs Liska wrote
Hi,
What is the official definition of a ponding?
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-04/msg00533.html
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2013/12/6 Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net:
What exactly is not easy to implement in Joseph Rushton Wakeling's
suggestion of an optional frescobaldi install from lilypond's windows
installer?
Well, i'm not familiar with this area, but keep in mind that one has
to find a free, open-source
Hi all,
Come on, it's not possible that the LilyPond community has so little to offer
in terms of projects.
Step out of the dark and tell the world what we do!
Tomorrow, MSU's Home For the Holidays spectacular will include around over
330 musicians singing over 25 minutes of
My goal is to reduce the horizontal spacing so that I fit four measures
per system instead of two.
Unfortunately I can't work out where the override statement is supposed
to go. I've tried mimicking the locations shown in the documentation but
they all give errors for my score.
2013/12/7 David Bolton davidkbol...@gmail.com:
My goal is to reduce the horizontal spacing so that I fit four measures
per system instead of two.
Unfortunately I can't work out where the override statement is supposed
to go. I've tried mimicking the locations shown in the documentation but
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