Re: Typesetting b bes! chord

2014-06-12 Thread Malte Meyn
On 12.06.2014 05:43, Javier Ruiz-Alma wrote: I dare not question Chopin. Attached is the same passage from a different edition of same piece. That’s correct because Chopin is right: the b flat belongs to the C7 chord which is the dominant seventh chord of the following f minor (and

Re: Ignoring note clash

2014-06-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: tisimst tisi...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:04 PM Subject: Re: Ignoring note clash My question: Is this a bug? Why does the voicing get reverted after the acciaccatura/grace/appoggiatura? Regards, Abraham See

Re: acciaccatura leading to duplicated changed time signature

2014-06-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Dirk Cushenbery dirkc...@yahoo.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:38 AM Subject: acciaccatura leading to duplicated changed time signature When I delete the acciaccatura the time signature problem goes away. Any thoughts? See

Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Hans Aberg
How might one display the time signature 8 + 2 sqrt(5) over 8, and the tuplet 1:1 + sqrt(5), where “sqrt is the square root sign? - It is for experimenting with a popular meter in 12 [1-2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leventikos 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYR_pvRWO_g

Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.0.16 released

2014-06-12 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
op 11-06-14 14:23, Davide Liessi schreef: This is expected since I haven't already updated the port for Frescobaldi to 2.0.16. I'll do it later today. I am sorry for not pre-announcing this release. :-) I almost had it ready but was very busy with recitals and rehearsals etc. And suddenly I

Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com writes: How might one display the time signature 8 + 2 sqrt(5) over 8, and the tuplet 1:1 + sqrt(5), where “sqrt is the square root sign? - It is for experimenting with a popular meter in 12 [1-2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leventikos 2.

Re: More questions about using Lilypond for guitar music

2014-06-12 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-06-11 16:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: 2014-06-11 12:37 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: I could not find anything in the documentation nor in the LSR. But I found this function in the archives:

Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Malte Meyn
This can be done in LilyPond without using LaTeX: \version 2.19.6 { \override Staff.TimeSignature.stencil = #ly:text-interface::print \override Staff.TimeSignature.text = \markup \override #'(baseline-skip . 0) \center-column \number { \concat { 8+2 \tiny √ \hspace

Notenames

2014-06-12 Thread Phil Holmes
I'm not top posting. I've tried sending this from 2 different email addresses without success, so now trying Gmane. Does anyone know how to get notenames under the relevant stave (in fact, I want them stacked vertically above each other, but under a stave would do) rather than in a

Re: Notenames

2014-06-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:25 PM Subject: Notenames I'm not top posting. I've tried sending this from 2 different email addresses without success, so now trying Gmane. Does anyone know how to

Re: Notenames

2014-06-12 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I'm not top posting. I've tried sending this from 2 different email addresses without success, so now trying Gmane. Does anyone know how to get notenames under the relevant stave (in fact, I want them stacked vertically above each other, but under

Re: More questions about using Lilypond for guitar music

2014-06-12 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-06-11 23:48 GMT+02:00 Martyn Quick martyn_qu...@yahoo.co.uk: Just a quick final message - thanks for all the help several of you gave. I have managed to get to grips with the workaround for bends/pull-offs, etc., and also make the vibrato / textspanner thing work. Great! Just a final

Re: Notenames

2014-06-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Notenames Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: I'm not top posting. I've tried sending this from 2 different

No LSR preview (was : More questions about using Lilypond...

2014-06-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Federico, Hi All, 2014-06-12 12:20 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: 2014-06-11 16:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: 2014-06-11 12:37 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: I could not find anything in the documentation nor in the

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Anyone ? Should I consider this output as a bug ? Cheers, Pierre 2014-06-11 17:08 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: Hi, I'd like to understand why avoid-slur does not work on this old style vibrato sign : %% \version 2.18.2

Re: No LSR preview (was : More questions about using Lilypond...

2014-06-12 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-06-12 14:44 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: Hi Federico, Why not. Problem is that I cannot reach LSR previews for a couple of days (e.g. http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=918). I've asked Seba about that but got no answer till now. Hi Pierre

Re: No LSR preview (was : More questions about using Lilypond...

2014-06-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-06-12 15:05 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: Well, the link you pasted is wrong: lsr.dsi.unimi.it does not exist Yep ! I agree. Pitty that Seba does not reply... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

RE: Typesetting b bes! chord

2014-06-12 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Javier: In both measures the Paderewski Edition (The Fryderyk Chopin Institute) has two note heads on top of the Y construct. Mark From: Javier Ruiz-Alma [mailto:jav...@ruiz-alma.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:26 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; 'LilyPond User Group' Subject: Re:

Slur crossing through accidental

2014-06-12 Thread James Harkins
I am at a complete loss what to do about this slur. It collides with the b-flat's accidental in a way that makes it hard to see what the slur is supposed to be. \version 2.18.2 \language english \relative c { \clef bass \time 6/8 bf8 ( d' ) r8 bf,16 ( bf' ) d ( bf d bf ) } I tried

Re: Slur crossing through accidental

2014-06-12 Thread Karol Majewski
Hi, James How about: \override Slur.details.accidental-collision = #1000 ? I am at a complete loss what to do about this slur. It collides with the b-flat's accidental in a way that makes it hard to see what the slur is supposed to be. \version 2.18.2 \language english \relative c {

Re: Slur crossing through accidental

2014-06-12 Thread James Harkins
On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:16:27 PM HKT, Karol Majewski wrote: Hi, James How about: \override Slur.details.accidental-collision = #1000 ? No difference here: \version 2.18.2 \language english \relative c { \clef bass \time 6/8 bf8 ( d' ) r8 \override Accidental.avoid-slur =

Odp: Slur crossing through accidental

2014-06-12 Thread Karol Majewski
And of course you have to increase region size. So it should be: \override Slur.details.region-size = #5 \override Slur.details.accidental-collision = #1000 --Karol ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Slur crossing through accidental

2014-06-12 Thread Malte Meyn
Another idea could be to change the position of the accidental: \version 2.18.2 \language english \relative c { \clef bass \time 6/8 bf8 ( d' ) r8 bf,16 ( \once \override Accidental.extra-offset = #'(-1.7 . 0) bf' ) d ( bf d bf ) } On 12.06.2014 17:13, James Harkins wrote: I am at a

Adjusting the upper tie of an octave

2014-06-12 Thread Knute Snortum
I am trying to typeset an e flat octave with a starting gracenote and held for two bars. This much seems fairly straightforward: *\relative* c,, *{* *\clef* bass *\acciaccatura* *{* ef ef' *~*8 *}* *\tieDown* ef ef'1 *~* | q1*}* The problem starts when I need to adjust the upper tie (because

Re: Whiteout box function by Thomas Morley / need help

2014-06-12 Thread Karol Majewski
I'm trying to make this function work via \tweak. Grob-name string is no longer needed. The following code doesn't work. Perhaps I missed something that is obvious to schemers. Any ideas are welcome. moreWhiteout = #(define-music-function (parser location adds)(pair?) (define

Re: Adjusting the upper tie of an octave

2014-06-12 Thread David Kastrup
Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com writes: I am trying to typeset an e flat octave with a starting gracenote and held for two bars. This much seems fairly straightforward: *\relative* c,, *{* *\clef* bass *\acciaccatura* *{* ef ef' *~*8 *}* *\tieDown* ef ef'1 *~* | q1*}* Cough cough.

Re: Whiteout box function by Thomas Morley / need help

2014-06-12 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Karol, On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Karol Majewski karo...@wp.pl wrote: I'm trying to make this function work via \tweak. Grob-name string is no longer needed. The following code doesn't work. Perhaps I missed something that is obvious to schemers. Any ideas are welcome.

Re: Adjusting the upper tie of an octave

2014-06-12 Thread Knute Snortum
And it looked so pretty! Okay, I'll try again. This is the basic code without the tie adjustment: \relative c,, { \clef bass \acciaccatura { ef ef' ~8 } \tieDown ef ef'1 ~ | q1 } And this is how I tried to address the problem: \version 2.18.2 \language english ignoreClash = \override

Re: Slur crossing through accidental

2014-06-12 Thread Knute Snortum
I think I'd just adjust the tie shape: \version 2.18.2 \language english tieAdjust = \shape #'((0.0 . 0.0) (0.0 . 0.3) (0.0 . 0.5) (0.0 . 0.2)) Slur \relative c { \clef bass \time 6/8 bf8 ( d' ) r8 \tieAdjust bf,16 ( bf' ) d ( bf d bf ) } Knute Snortum (via Gmail) On Thu, Jun 12, 2014

Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Hans Aberg
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:21, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote: This can be done in LilyPond without using LaTeX: I have made an example incorporating your code; it looks pretty neat. For the midi, I wrote out the ornaments in a separate version using the 5/3 ratio, so as to be closer to

Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Hans Aberg
On 12 Jun 2014, at 11:54, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com writes: How might one display the time signature 8 + 2 sqrt(5) over 8, and the tuplet 1:1 + sqrt(5), where “sqrt is the square root sign? - It is for experimenting with a popular meter in 12 [1-2].

Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Hans Aberg
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:21, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote: This can be done in LilyPond without using LaTeX: Oops, a typo in the code: the tuplets should be 2:(1+sqrt 5) - I forgot to change in your code. So hope it’s OK now. IrrationalMeter.ly \version 2.19.6 \header{

Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Malte Meyn
On 12.06.2014 22:25, Hans Aberg wrote: Tying this back to LilyPond, the graphical representation will look the same, only that the meter and the tuplet numbers are changed. There is another problem in the MIDI file: how to make a better approximation than 3:2. The next is 5:3, but then one

RE: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hans, (1+sqrt 5)/2 = 1.618... is the golden ratio, phi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio Do you know of other instances of this ratio in music? Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org

Re: Slur crossing through accidental

2014-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
2014-06-12 21:31 GMT+02:00 Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com: I think I'd just adjust the tie shape: \version 2.18.2 \language english tieAdjust = \shape #'((0.0 . 0.0) (0.0 . 0.3) (0.0 . 0.5) (0.0 . 0.2)) Slur I would suggest using the enhanced version with the polar coordinates, because

Re: Adjusting the upper tie of an octave

2014-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
try changing the order of the notes (and ties) in the input. Or use TieColumn.tie-configuration. Or typeset stuff as separate voices (this is very ugly, but will give you fullest control). Yeah, i know - ugh... hth Janek 2014-06-12 21:22 GMT+02:00 Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com: And it

Re: Adjusting the upper tie of an octave

2014-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
BTW this ugly tie is a well-known case in my report on bad tie formatting (in progress since 2012). Time to make it publicly available, i guess :) 2014-06-12 22:44 GMT+02:00 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: try changing the order of the notes (and ties) in the input. Or use

Re: Typesetting b bes! chord

2014-06-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2014-06-12 15:52 GMT+02:00 Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com: In both measures the Paderewski Edition (The Fryderyk Chopin Institute) has two note heads on top of the “Y” construct. Here is what the same edition has in etude 11, Op10, and what lilypond does (or did some time ago) with a

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-12 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Jun 11, 2014 11:09 AM, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to understand why avoid-slur does not work on this old style vibrato sign : %% \version 2.18.2 \markup\italic avoid-slur works with slur: { \override

Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Hans Aberg
On 12 Jun 2014, at 22:30, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: (1+sqrt 5)/2 = 1.618... is the golden ratio, phi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio Do you know of other instances of this ratio in music? The WP [1] mentions one other case where irrational in music is

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-06-12 23:12 GMT+02:00 Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com: Hi Ralph, I'm away from my computer, so this will be brief. avoid-slur does not work on a tie because a tie is not a slur. See : http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/tie Can you typeset it as a slur?

Re: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Hans Aberg
On 12 Jun 2014, at 22:28, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote: I’m not sure whether I understood correctly, but instead of writing something like \tuplet 3/2 { c8 d e } and hiding the tuplet number (and bracket), you can simply write c8*2/3 d e I haven’t used that latter notation,

Re: Adjusting the upper tie of an octave

2014-06-12 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: try changing the order of the notes (and ties) in the input. Or use TieColumn.tie-configuration. Or typeset stuff as separate voices (this is very ugly, but will give you fullest control). Yeah, i know -

RE: Irrational time signature and tuplets

2014-06-12 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hans, Thank you for your detailed and informative response. I shall take time to study it and the references that you provide. Mark -Original Message- From: Hans Aberg [mailto:haber...@telia.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:20 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: Malte Meyn;

Re: Odp: Slur crossing through accidental

2014-06-12 Thread James Harkins
On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:22:57 PM HKT, Karol Majewski wrote: And of course you have to increase region size. So it should be: \override Slur.details.region-size = #5 \override Slur.details.accidental-collision = #1000 Thanks, all, for the suggestions. Increasing the slur region ended up

Re: Centered Paragraphs

2014-06-12 Thread Jay Anderson
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com wrote: is http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=765 of some help? Somewhat. Looking at it again this evening fresh I figured it out: #(define-markup-command (paragraph layout props args) (markup-list?) #:properties

Re: Adjusting the upper tie of an octave

2014-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
2014-06-13 0:48 GMT+02:00 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com: It actually _is_ possible to modify the control points of individual ties in a TieColumn, so you don't need to use separate voices or change the order of notes. The attached file shows how it can be done. Wow! Now i remember

Slide from some where undetermined

2014-06-12 Thread Kevin Tough
Hi Folks, I just tried, for some time to write a simple slide on one string. Now I have numbers in circles appearing above the notes even with all the extras commented and/or erased. Is there some simple thing I have missed in the documentation? I just want to indicate a slide without anything