Re: Unpitched notes/sounds

2016-10-19 Thread Robert Schmaus
Hi Jaques, This could simply refer to ghost notes, usually written with x note heads ... Best, Robert __ It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence. -- William Kingdon Clifford > On 19 Oct 2016, at 17:40, Menu Jacques

Re: Problem with understanding results with multiple voices and Note_heads_engraver

2016-10-19 Thread David Bellows
> Before mentioning where one problem is, I suspect that I'm not handling the multiple voices properly so that could be a problem as well. > The offending code in mwe.ly appears to be the following: Ok, I discovered that there was an easier way to code multiple voices across staves and now all

Problem with understanding results with multiple voices and Note_heads_engraver

2016-10-19 Thread David Bellows
I've attached mwe.ly and mwe.png. I'm using Lilypond 2.19.49 but I've observed the same results in other versions including 2.18. Before mentioning where one problem is, I suspect that I'm not handling the multiple voices properly so that could be a problem as well. The offending code in mwe.ly

Re: Server error?

2016-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Am 19.10.2016 um 20:27 schrieb Malte Meyn: > Am 19.10.2016 um 18:59 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: >> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Search >> >> This annoying dead-link came somehow, somewhere into the net ... >> > > This link hasn’t always been dead: Some years ago the computer science > department of the

RE: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
It's A$838 (US$647) over here in Australia, which is the usual rip-off extra factor we have to pay for living in our fair country. It needs to be understood that the cost of delivery of software downloads is much higher to Australia as we are so far from Europe and America and the data packets

RE: Unpitched notes/sounds

2016-10-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Jacques, By unpitched are you referring to percussion? There's a section (2.5) in the NR on that. Andrew -Original Message- From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+andrew.bernard=gmail@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Menu Jacques Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2016 2:41 AM To:

Problems installing Version 2.19.49 on Windows 10

2016-10-19 Thread Joseph N. Srednicki
Hello: I am having issues installing version 2.19.49 on Windows 10. I repeated the installation twice and received the same results. I followed these steps: 1. Uninstall the previous version. 2. Download lilypond-2.19.49-1.mingw.exe. 3. Click

Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: Spanner right-hand text may disappear when padded

2016-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Rutger Hofman writes: > Even though I solved my problem: you asked above for my use-case, and > in this case it is the Adagio for solo violin and 13 winds from Alban > Berg's Kammerkonzert, see > http://imslp.org/wiki/Kammerkonzert_(Berg,_Alban) for the score. The > Adagio

Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: Spanner right-hand text may disappear when padded

2016-10-19 Thread Rutger Hofman
On 10/17/2016 06:49 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:35 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Rutger Hofman wrote: Thanks for all the help! First I post some rationale, then my real question, which is targeted

Re: Crash! -1073741819

2016-10-19 Thread Noeck
Hi, >> Where does the error number come from? It happens to be 5 - 2^30. That does not explain anything, it is probably either an integer overflow (underflow) or just some value interpreted as an integer. It might point experts to the origin in the source code or be a completely arbitrary

Re: Server error?

2016-10-19 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 19.10.2016 um 18:59 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Search This annoying dead-link came somehow, somewhere into the net ... This link hasn’t always been dead: Some years ago the computer science department of the University of Milano changed it’s name/abbreviation

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > Hm, quoting order is somewhat strange here. > But I have the impression with "sarcastic" Michael was referring to your > "really?”. Ah! I see… No, as you perceived, I was honestly questioning whether you had tried #’padding and found it not to work. =) Okay… move along… nothing to

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Rivers writes: > Yikes -- $559! Even if the output were better than Lilypond's, that's way out > of my reach. Well, they are probably orienting themselves after Sibelius pricing and Steinberg had to sink money into this before first sale. I expect the

Re: mac unstable 2.19.49

2016-10-19 Thread Trevor Bača
Agreed. I can confirm the MacOS fix in 2.19.49: works perfectly under MacOS 10.12. And does, in fact, appear faster than 2.19.46! The work applied towards this fix is very much appreciated. Trevor. On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Stan Sanderson wrote: > > Many thanks to

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.10.2016 um 19:16 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Michael, > >>> Overriding #'padding or #'outside-staff-padding doesn't have any useful >>> effect either. >> No need to be sarcastic in a reply to an honest question. > I don’t believe Urs was being sarcastic… =) Hm, quoting order is

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Michael, >> Overriding #'padding or #'outside-staff-padding doesn't have any useful >> effect either. > No need to be sarcastic in a reply to an honest question. I don’t believe Urs was being sarcastic… =) He just didn’t understand that adjusting TextScript.padding is insufficient (a.k.a.

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Michael Rivers
Really? Hi Urs, > Overriding #'padding or #'outside-staff-padding doesn't have any useful > effect either. Really? No need to be sarcastic in a reply to an honest question. -- View this message in context:

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Michael Rivers
Yikes -- $559! Even if the output were better than Lilypond's, that's way out of my reach. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Dorico-release-and-tutorials-tp195437p195490.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Server error?

2016-10-19 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Bernhard, no, there is a typo: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Search This annoying dead-link came somehow, somewhere into the net ... HTH Jan-Peter Am 19.10.2016 um 18:56 schrieb Bernhard Kleine: Hi Der Server unter lsr.dsi.unimi.it konnte nicht gefunden werden. Server could not be found?

Server error?

2016-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Hi Der Server unter lsr.dsi.unimi.it konnte nicht gefunden werden. Server could not be found? Bernhard -- spitzhalde9 D-79853 lenzkirch bernhard.kle...@gmx.net www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net - thunderbird mit enigmail GPG schlüssel: D5257409 fingerprint: 08 B7 F8 70 22 7A FC C1 15 49 CA

Unpitched notes/sounds

2016-10-19 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello folks, MusicXML has the notion of an unpitched sound: E 5 I didn’t seem to find a way to write that in LP syntax in the documentations. How can one approach that? Maybe a markup above the note? Thanks for your help! JM

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Gilles, > ? > The initial post was about manually setting the margins for each page. The discussion quickly replaced that original query with a two-option approach. For whatever reason, it's clear that you don’t see how/when that happened. I simply tried to point out that it has. Since my

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Gilles, > What I'm saying is that *if* the feature is to allow a given > number of systems onto one page, it is better to have an explicit > command to that effect, rather than "manually" fiddle with the > margin and/or staff-size settings. Of course — I don’t see where anyone suggested

About manually setting the margins for each page (Was: Re: Dorico release and tutorials)

2016-10-19 Thread Gilles
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:01:21 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Gilles, ? The initial post was about manually setting the margins for each page. The discussion quickly replaced that original query with a two-option approach. For whatever reason, it's clear that you don’t see how/when that

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Gilles
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:42:58 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Gilles, What I'm saying is that *if* the feature is to allow a given number of systems onto one page, it is better to have an explicit command to that effect, rather than "manually" fiddle with the margin and/or staff-size

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Gilles
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:20:11 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 19.10.2016 um 16:14 schrieb Gilles: Hi. On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:47:01 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Gilles, Unforced breaks can depend on previous margin settings, possibly making the numbering wrong when the user reruns the

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.10.2016 um 16:28 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >>> Maybe you can be the one to finally tackle this issue? =) >> I don't have the slightest idea how that should be approached, sorry … > Okay… thanks anyway. > >> Well, for this example I simply added white letters to the two

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, >> Maybe you can be the one to finally tackle this issue? =) > I don't have the slightest idea how that should be approached, sorry … Okay… thanks anyway. > Well, for this example I simply added white letters to the two markups, > ehm ... (after I didn't immediately manage to

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.10.2016 um 16:14 schrieb Gilles: > Hi. > > On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:47:01 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> Hi Gilles, >> >>> Unforced breaks can depend on previous margin settings, >>> possibly making the numbering wrong when the user reruns >>> the compilation with different settings. >>

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.10.2016 um 15:37 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >>> Of course, you still have to manually deal with the [long-standing and >>> long-irritating] fact that texts are not baseline-aligned, but >>> bottom-aligned… >> Oh my, this is the reason ... > Yes. I’ve never seen a good reason

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Gilles
Hi. On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:47:01 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Gilles, Unforced breaks can depend on previous margin settings, possibly making the numbering wrong when the user reruns the compilation with different settings. Of course that *can* happen… but it doesn’t have to. In all my

Re: \omit TupletNumber reversal

2016-10-19 Thread Martin Neubauer
\once \undo \omit TupletNumber ? On 19/10/2016 15:39, Bernhard Kleine wrote: > For a long sequence of trioles I have shown the tupletNumber once and > omitted thereafter. Now a next triole sequence starts and would show > again the tupletNumber only once. But it is no longer there. How to > bring

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Gilles, > Unforced breaks can depend on previous margin settings, > possibly making the numbering wrong when the user reruns > the compilation with different settings. Of course that *can* happen… but it doesn’t have to. In all my scores, once the layout is fixed, I no longer *ever* let

\omit TupletNumber reversal

2016-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
For a long sequence of trioles I have shown the tupletNumber once and omitted thereafter. Now a next triole sequence starts and would show again the tupletNumber only once. But it is no longer there. How to bring it back. (in the documentation for 2.19.49 there is no hint for this as far as I can

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, >> Of course, you still have to manually deal with the [long-standing and >> long-irritating] fact that texts are not baseline-aligned, but >> bottom-aligned… > Oh my, this is the reason ... Yes. I’ve never seen a good reason for why Lilypond chose (chooses) this implementation, nor

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Gilles
Hi. On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:21:32 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Gilles, Doesn't the page number depend on how the previous material has been typeset? Not if breaks are forced, etc. Unforced breaks can depend on previous margin settings, possibly making the numbering wrong when the user

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Gilles, > Doesn't the page number depend on how the previous material > has been typeset? Not if breaks are forced, etc. > It seems to me that, rather than "specify the global-staff-size > for individual pages", it should be "from now on, magnify the > global-staff-size so that systems fit

Re: No readline in scheme-sandbox

2016-10-19 Thread David Sumbler
On Wed, 2016-10-19 at 11:34 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > David Sumbler writes: > > > > > Given that, on my 64-bit Linux system, I have Guile 1.8 installed > > complete with readline, I'd be very grateful if somebody could > > explain > > to me how I can get readline to load

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Gilles
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:44:22 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 19.10.2016 um 12:41 schrieb David Kastrup: Pierre Perol-Schneider writes: I just watched the vids. One thing I appreciate is the pages layout possibilities. It would be great if LP had something like:

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.10.2016 um 13:50 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >> Overriding #'padding or #'outside-staff-padding doesn't have any useful >> effect either. > Really? > > SNIPPET BEGINS > \version "2.19" > \language "english" > > \paper { ragged-right = ##f } > > baselines = { > \override

Re: Start a staff later

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.10.2016 um 11:46 schrieb David Kastrup: > Urs Liska writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> I have created the attached music example, using some polymetrics >> trickery to align the differing music. As you can see the lower sample >> is shorter, starting later and stopping

Re: Crash! -1073741819

2016-10-19 Thread Robert Schmaus
It could be coincidence, but there's a Windows error code of just that number: http://www.tenforums.com/general-support/9872-file-system-error-1073741819-a.html __ It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence. -- William Kingdon Clifford

Re: vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > Overriding #'padding or #'outside-staff-padding doesn't have any useful > effect either. Really? SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.19" \language "english" \paper { ragged-right = ##f } baselines = { \override TextScript.padding = #2.5 c'4^\markup { Du liebst mich nicht } c' c'

Re: Crash! -1073741819

2016-10-19 Thread bb
I think that is not a good question as you try to compile an erroneous code. Firstly correct your lilypond code and secondly then ask for the meaning of an error message - if any! On 19.10.2016 13:12, Bernhard Kleine wrote: Where does the error number come from? At least when LP crashes

Re: Crash! -1073741819

2016-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Where does the error number come from? At least when LP crashes there should be more verbal information, otherwise it is totally useless. The same should apply to Frescobaldi. My 5 cents Bernhard -- spitzhalde9 D-79853 lenzkirch bernhard.kle...@gmx.net www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net -

Re: Crash! -1073741819

2016-10-19 Thread bb
I tried with the old version 2.18 (the code needs 2.19.33) and get a barcheck error: /tmp/frescobaldi-z8g5a2pn/tmp4w88rb38/document.ly:31:22 <0>: warning: barcheck failed at: 1/8 c4 h16 a f8 g 16 a | g4. On 19.10.2016 11:53, Thomas Morley wrote: 2016-10-19 11:17 GMT+02:00 Bernhard Kleine

Re: Crash! -1073741819

2016-10-19 Thread bb
Check if it is reproducible, say, if it repeats. Simply sh... happens some time. Regards On 19.10.2016 11:17, Bernhard Kleine wrote: \version "2.19.33" \language "deutsch" \paper { #(set-paper-size "a4") } \layout { \context { \Voice \consists "Melody_engraver"

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.10.2016 um 12:41 schrieb David Kastrup: > Pierre Perol-Schneider writes: > >> I just watched the vids. One thing I appreciate is the pages layout >> possibilities. >> It would be great if LP had something like: >> >> \paper { >> %defaults settings: >>

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Pierre Perol-Schneider writes: > I just watched the vids. One thing I appreciate is the pages layout > possibilities. > It would be great if LP had something like: > > \paper { > %defaults settings: > right-margin = 10 > left-margin = 10 > > %specific

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
I just watched the vids. One thing I appreciate is the pages layout possibilities. It would be great if LP had something like: \paper { %defaults settings: right-margin = 10 left-margin = 10 %specific page settings: \page #1 { right-margin = 20 left-margin = 20 } \page #2 {

InstrumentName on right side

2016-10-19 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi, for some very special project I'd like to print the InstrumentName on the _right_ side. Here an example to play with \version "2.19.48" \paper { line-width = 60 indent = 0 } \new Staff \with { instrumentName = "f" shortInstrumentName = "f" } { c'1

Re: Crash! -1073741819

2016-10-19 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-10-19 11:17 GMT+02:00 Bernhard Kleine : > Can you please explain? > > Win7, amd64, the .ly could no longer to be saved in Frescobaldi, but > mark and copied to a fresh document and could be compiled from there > with any error. > > I am stymied > > Regards Bernhard

Re: Start a staff later

2016-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Hi all, > > I have created the attached music example, using some polymetrics > trickery to align the differing music. As you can see the lower sample > is shorter, starting later and stopping earlier. The lower PianoStaff > simply stops when the music

Re: No readline in scheme-sandbox

2016-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
David Sumbler writes: > Given that, on my 64-bit Linux system, I have Guile 1.8 installed > complete with readline, I'd be very grateful if somebody could explain > to me how I can get readline to load when I type 'lilypond scheme- > sandbox' with Lilypond v.2.19.40 . Did

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
"Andrew Bernard" writes: > How do you watch these videos which induce sea sickness with the unstable > camera? Is this supposed to be trendy film making, or just complete > incompetence? What is Steinberg thinking? I cannot imagine a worse promotion > for a product.

Start a staff later

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, I have created the attached music example, using some polymetrics trickery to align the differing music. As you can see the lower sample is shorter, starting later and stopping earlier. The lower PianoStaff simply stops when the music stops, and I would be happy to have the same effect at

Crash! -1073741819

2016-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Can you please explain? Win7, amd64, the .ly could no longer to be saved in Frescobaldi, but mark and copied to a fresh document and could be compiled from there with any error. I am stymied Regards Bernhard -- spitzhalde9 D-79853 lenzkirch bernhard.kle...@gmx.net www.b-kleine.com,

Re: Help required with tuplets

2016-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Am 19.10.2016 um 09:59 schrieb David Kastrup: > Bernhard Kleine writes: > >> Am 19.10.2016 um 08:23 schrieb Marc Hohl: >>> Am 19.10.2016 um 08:14 schrieb Bernhard Kleine: Hi, I do not see what is wrong with the following extract which is compilable

Re: No readline in scheme-sandbox

2016-10-19 Thread David Sumbler
On Mon, 2016-10-17 at 09:02 +0100, David Sumbler wrote: > On Sun, 2016-10-16 at 23:09 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > > > David Sumbler writes: > > > > > > On Sun, 2016-10-16 at 21:19 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > > > > > > > David Sumbler writes: > >

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 19.10.2016 um 09:53 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Urs Liska writes: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> as some of you may know today is the official release of Dorico, the >>> notation program that has been written from scratch by the developer

RE: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
How do you watch these videos which induce sea sickness with the unstable camera? Is this supposed to be trendy film making, or just complete incompetence? What is Steinberg thinking? I cannot imagine a worse promotion for a product. They are unwatchable. Perhaps shot by a drone with the

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Am 19.10.2016 um 09:53 schrieb David Kastrup: > Urs Liska writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> as some of you may know today is the official release of Dorico, the >> notation program that has been written from scratch by the developer >> team that had developed Sibelius until they

vertically aligning text/marks/tempo

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Somehow I feel this is a dumb question, but I didn't manage to find the relevant info in the manual. In the attached file you can see that each text element above the staff is aligned individually, but I want to have them on a single baseline. Putting the texts in a separate variable and

Re: Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Hi all, > > as some of you may know today is the official release of Dorico, the > notation program that has been written from scratch by the developer > team that had developed Sibelius until they were fired and then re-hired > by Steinberg. > > I

Re: Help required with tuplets

2016-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Bernhard Kleine writes: > Am 19.10.2016 um 08:23 schrieb Marc Hohl: >> Am 19.10.2016 um 08:14 schrieb Bernhard Kleine: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I do not see what is wrong with the following extract which is >>> compilable but totally wrong. >> >> I think you misunderstood the way

Re: Notes on wrong side of stem in triads

2016-10-19 Thread Davide Liessi
2016-10-18 22:39 GMT+02:00 Stanton Sanderson : > The following also works: > > \version "2.19.47" > \paper { > #(layout-set-absolute-staff-size (* 19 pt)) > } > { } This also seems to work (although I don't know if it makes sense, I just took

Re: Help required with tuplets

2016-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Am 19.10.2016 um 08:23 schrieb Marc Hohl: > Am 19.10.2016 um 08:14 schrieb Bernhard Kleine: >> Hi, >> >> I do not see what is wrong with the following extract which is >> compilable but totally wrong. > > I think you misunderstood the way \tuplet works: > > \tuplet 3/2 is the way to go, because

Dorico release and tutorials

2016-10-19 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, as some of you may know today is the official release of Dorico, the notation program that has been written from scratch by the developer team that had developed Sibelius until they were fired and then re-hired by Steinberg. I haven't had the time to look into these but maybe the set of

Re: Help required with tuplets

2016-10-19 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 19.10.2016 um 08:14 schrieb Bernhard Kleine: Hi, I do not see what is wrong with the following extract which is compilable but totally wrong. I think you misunderstood the way \tuplet works: \tuplet 3/2 is the way to go, because you want *3* notes to last as long as *2* notes normally

Help required with tuplets

2016-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Hi, I do not see what is wrong with the following extract which is compilable but totally wrong. The structure is fully from what Frescobaldi offered, however missing voices not yet added are skipped. Thank you for any help. Bernhard -- \version "2.19.33" \language "deutsch" \layout {