Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Knut Petersen
Am 07.01.2017 um 21:50 schrieb H. S. Teoh: I think that the most promising way of attack is to make sure that Guile-2.0 and Guile-1.8 libraries can be installed in parallel, and with parallel architectures (most libraries can, Guile-1.8 was not multiarch-capable when it was removed). When

Re: Changing midi-tempo within score

2017-01-07 Thread UCas
Am 08.01.2017 um 00:07 schrieb Noeck: > { > a1 > \once\omit Score.MetronomeMark > \tempo 4 = 50 > a1 > \tempo 4 = 60 > a1 > } > > HTH, > Joram Uh, nice. I just used \tempo for things like \tempo "Andante" and I did not know, that I can use it this way. Thank you. Am 08.01.2017 um

Re: Changing midi-tempo within score

2017-01-07 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 07.01.2017 um 23:34 schrieb UCas: > I am able to set midi-tempo in my header-file with > > \midi { > \context { > \Score tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment miditempo 4) > } > } > > but how can I change this tempo within the score? \set

Re: Changing midi-tempo within score

2017-01-07 Thread Noeck
Hi UCas, Am 07.01.2017 um 23:34 schrieb UCas: > but how can I change this tempo within the score? You can use the normal \tempo command and hide it: { a1 \once\omit Score.MetronomeMark \tempo 4 = 50 a1 \tempo 4 = 60 a1 } HTH, Joram ___

Changing midi-tempo within score

2017-01-07 Thread UCas
Hi, at the moment I am working on a medley with changing time signature and tempo. I am able to set midi-tempo in my header-file with \midi { \context { \Score tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment miditempo 4) } } but how can I change this tempo within the score?

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

2017-01-07 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Kieren, > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: >> Hi David, >> >>> Further down in that thread is an implementation of shorten-pair with >>> hairpins: >>>

Re: Tips on quick entry

2017-01-07 Thread Nathan Ho
On 2017-01-06 13:39, Samuel Speer wrote: Hello list, It takes me ages to enter the note data into LilyPond. Last night I spent almost an hour a page just getting notes and lyrics in. Does anyone have any tips for quick entry? I do have a midi keyboard but haven't tried it much. It seems slow

Re: Strange effect of set-global-staff-size

2017-01-07 Thread David Sumbler
To get around the anomaly I reported previously, I am rewriting my book-cover generating routine. I need to use \fromproperty with a variable which is set at the top level (i.e. outside any \book block).  If necessary, the variable could be set inside a \book or \bookpart, although this is less

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I can't speak for other distros, but at least as far as Debian is > concerned, if the upstream (i.e., lilypond) source tarball contains > a copy of the guile-1.8 sources, and the build script is tweaked > such that it installs a copy of guile 1.8 in paths private to > lilypond, e.g.,

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 09:42:51PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > "H. S. Teoh" writes: > > > Of course, the best scenario is that we figure out how to fix the > > current guile2-related issues before LP 2.20 is released... > > A lot of them require fixing Guile2. Guile2

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
"H. S. Teoh" writes: > Of course, the best scenario is that we figure out how to fix the > current guile2-related issues before LP 2.20 is released... A lot of them require fixing Guile2. Guile2 has a string API where it will not accept anything but Latin-1 strings in a

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 07:53:25PM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Urs Liska wrote Saturday, January 07, 2017 6:59 PM > > > Am 07.01.2017 um 19:46 schrieb H. S. Teoh: > >> I didn't realize there was so much going on with the transition (or > >> lack thereof?) to guile 2.0. What of the idea of

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Urs Liska wrote Saturday, January 07, 2017 6:59 PM > Am 07.01.2017 um 19:46 schrieb H. S. Teoh: >> I didn't realize there was so much going on with the transition (or lack >> thereof?) to guile 2.0. What of the idea of packaging the last >> known-to-be-good version of guile 1.8 with the

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 07:59:25PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: > > Am 07.01.2017 um 19:46 schrieb H. S. Teoh: > > I didn't realize there was so much going on with the transition (or > > lack thereof?) to guile 2.0. What of the idea of packaging the last > > known-to-be-good version of guile 1.8 with

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi, 2017-01-07 17:11 GMT+01:00 David Pirotte : > Hello, > >> ... >> I already had the vague thought how much work it might be to explore >> other scheme-dialects, adjust whole lilypond to use them and drop >> guile entirely. >> ... > > For info, someone claimed on irc (#guile,

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.01.2017 um 19:46 schrieb H. S. Teoh: > I didn't realize there was so much going on with the transition (or lack > thereof?) to guile 2.0. What of the idea of packaging the last > known-to-be-good version of guile 1.8 with the lilypond sources, and > just going with that? Well, Guile2

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 09:59:22AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > "H. S. Teoh" writes: [...] > > I've been able to get Lilypond 2.19 to work in Debian/testing by > > compiling from source (lilypond git HEAD) with `./configure > > --enable-guile2`. There are some

Re: Trouble coloring Ambitus ledger lines

2017-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > TBH though, I don’t have a clue why a compressMMRests music function > is even needed, i.e. what harm it may do to have skipBars set to ##t > all the time. \new Voice { \set Score.skipBars = ##t \time 2/4 c'1 e'1 } For voices in

Re: Trouble coloring Ambitus ledger lines

2017-01-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.01.2017 17:47, Patrick Karl wrote: as written the initial MM rests are not compressed , i.e., the \compressMMRests command has no effect. This works: % \version "2.19.53" S = { \once \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner.color = #grey \grace s128 \stopStaff \startStaff

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
David Pirotte writes: > Hello, > >> ... >> I already had the vague thought how much work it might be to explore >> other scheme-dialects, adjust whole lilypond to use them and drop >> guile entirely. >> ... > > For info, someone claimed on irc (#guile, freenode) that he/she is

Re: Tips on quick entry

2017-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Shann writes: > On Sat, 2017-01-07 at 16:27 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Richard Shann writes: >> [...] doesn't cover chord entry - I used to use the >> > sustain pedal to indicate that the notes played should all be in one >> > chord,

Trouble coloring Ambitus ledger lines

2017-01-07 Thread Patrick Karl
On 9 Jul 2016 I submitted a report titled: Problem coloring Ambitus ledger-lines. A work-around quickly came (thanks Thomas Morley) consisting of inserting the following code at the beginning of the music: \once \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner.color = #grey \grace s128 \stopStaff

Re: Replace articulation with glyph

2017-01-07 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Dave Higgins" To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:03 PM Subject: Replace articulation with glyph I'm sure there's a way, but I can't find a good example. I would like to replace an articulation, e.g. a

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread David Pirotte
Hello, > ... > I already had the vague thought how much work it might be to explore > other scheme-dialects, adjust whole lilypond to use them and drop > guile entirely. > ... For info, someone claimed on irc (#guile, freenode) that he/she is closed to compile/use lilypond using guile-2.1:

Replace articulation with glyph

2017-01-07 Thread Dave Higgins
I'm sure there's a way, but I can't find a good example. I would like to replace an articulation, e.g. a staccato with a sharp, for one note. The reason is I don't want the sharp to be outside of the staff, as in: c1^\markup { \sharp }\startTrillSpan I did see where you could

Re: Tips on quick entry

2017-01-07 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2017-01-07 at 16:27 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Richard Shann writes: > [...] doesn't cover chord entry - I used to use the > > sustain pedal to indicate that the notes played should all be in one > > chord, but now I hold down the Alt key - you can do either in

Re: Tips on quick entry

2017-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Shann writes: > On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 14:59 -0700, SoundsFromSound wrote: >> tyronicus wrote >> > Hello list, >> > >> > It takes me ages to enter the note data into LilyPond. Last night I spent >> > almost an hour a page just getting notes and lyrics in. Does

Re: Getting lyrics from LilyPond into Sibelius

2017-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Phil, Am 07.01.2017 um 16:05 schrieb Phil Holmes: > - Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" > To: "lilypond-user" > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 2:53 PM > Subject: Getting lyrics from LilyPond into Sibelius > > >> Hi all, >> >>

Re: Strange effect of set-global-staff-size

2017-01-07 Thread David Sumbler
%%% \version "2.19.48" #(set-global-staff-size 20) \book {   \markup { \abs-fontsize #48 \bold "Title 1"   } } #(set-global-staff-size 16) \book {   \markup { \abs-fontsize #48 \bold "Title 2"   }  } %%% The above illustrates the

Re: Getting lyrics from LilyPond into Sibelius

2017-01-07 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" To: "lilypond-user" Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 2:53 PM Subject: Getting lyrics from LilyPond into Sibelius Hi all, Frescobaldi's MusicXML export doesn't support lyrics yet (and I don't think

Re: Tips on quick entry

2017-01-07 Thread Richard Shann
On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 14:59 -0700, SoundsFromSound wrote: > tyronicus wrote > > Hello list, > > > > It takes me ages to enter the note data into LilyPond. Last night I spent > > almost an hour a page just getting notes and lyrics in. Does anyone have > > any tips for quick entry? I do have a midi

Getting lyrics from LilyPond into Sibelius

2017-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, Frescobaldi's MusicXML export doesn't support lyrics yet (and I don't think it will ever because the lyrics are represented really differently (MusicXML stores each syllable along with the note, so the exporter would have to actually determine where a given syllable ends up). So

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> You probably know about >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2016-11/msg00031.html >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2016-12/msg00041.html >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2017-01/msg3.html >> >> Regarding all

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2017-01-07 10:57 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup : > >> Now obviously I am not all too well-suited as a role model for >> communicating with Guile upstream. I'm just not the kind of man Stephen >> Turnbull is (who has more or less

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> Where would I find suitable documentation or tutorials to do so >>> (doesn't have to be explicitly about Guile 1.8 vs. 2 of course)? >> >> It's rather simple. [...] > > To build lilypond we require guile-xx-dev (don't remember if we > require guile-xx-libs as well). Will the method described

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> You probably know about > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2016-11/msg00031.html > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2016-12/msg00041.html > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2017-01/msg3.html > > Regarding all the bugreports I listed there (probably with

Re: Was RE: Which Linux distro for Lilypond - Now: Guile

2017-01-07 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-01-07 12:37 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska : > > > Am 7. Januar 2017 12:20:30 MEZ schrieb Andrew Bernard > : >>Hi Harm, >> >>I think Bigloo and Chibi at least offer similar embedding >>functionality, I first thought about mit-scheme, at least it's GNU as

Re: Was RE: Which Linux distro for Lilypond - Now: Guile

2017-01-07 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Urs, I know. That's why I mentioned those two of the hundreds of Schemes, as they offer embedding into C progs. Also Chicken, I believe. Given that writing a fairly full blooded Scheme interpreter is a standard student exercise, it is not that that is the problem. It's the task of embedding

Re: Was RE: Which Linux distro for Lilypond - Now: Guile

2017-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 7. Januar 2017 12:20:30 MEZ schrieb Andrew Bernard : >Hi Harm, > >I think Bigloo and Chibi at least offer similar embedding >functionality, but >I have not studied the matter deeply. If the Guile developers are >recalcitrant, a long term project may be to change?

Was RE: Which Linux distro for Lilypond - Now: Guile

2017-01-07 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Harm, I think Bigloo and Chibi at least offer similar embedding functionality, but I have not studied the matter deeply. If the Guile developers are recalcitrant, a long term project may be to change? [Very pie-in-the-sky I know, but since you mentioned it...] Andrew -Original

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-01-07 10:57 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup : > Werner LEMBERG writes: > >>> Unfortunately I ran into this very issue, changing from Debian >>> stable (in the Linux Mint Debian Edition incarnation) to vanilla >>> Debian testing. I did this because the PyQt5 packages in

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-01-07 11:00 GMT+01:00 Werner LEMBERG : > >>> Mhmm, compiling and installing guile 1.8 is not rocket science... >> >> Probably not, but ... >> >>> Have you tried that already? >> >> ... i am not familiar enough with all this packaging stuff to be >> confident about installing

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> ./configure --disable-error-on-warning --prefix=`pwd`/../gnu-packages Ah, using `pwd' here is a bad idea, sorry. You should rather use ./configure --disable-error-on-warning --prefix=$HOME/gnu-packages So here are the complete instructions again. cd $HOME mkdir gnu-packages wget

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> If you get a failure, simply restart the `configure' script (with > all options) until it succeeds. Of course you have to fix the problem first that makes `configure' fail :-) Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Mhmm, compiling and installing guile 1.8 is not rocket science... > > Probably not, but ... > >> Have you tried that already? > > ... i am not familiar enough with all this packaging stuff to be > confident about installing alternative versions to system installed > packages ... You would

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> Unfortunately I ran into this very issue, changing from Debian >> stable (in the Linux Mint Debian Edition incarnation) to vanilla >> Debian testing. I did this because the PyQt5 packages in stable are >> too old to run current Frescobaldi from its Git

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.01.2017 um 10:20 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >> Unfortunately I ran into this very issue, changing from Debian >> stable (in the Linux Mint Debian Edition incarnation) to vanilla >> Debian testing. I did this because the PyQt5 packages in stable are >> too old to run current Frescobaldi from

Re: Tips on quick entry

2017-01-07 Thread Richard Shann
On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 14:36 -0800, Glen Larsen wrote: > Try the hints on this page, especially frescobaldi, if you haven't > checked it out already. > > > Since I think you will get many suggestions, I suspect you won't get many suggestions from people who use the Denemo front end though, as

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Unfortunately I ran into this very issue, changing from Debian > stable (in the Linux Mint Debian Edition incarnation) to vanilla > Debian testing. I did this because the PyQt5 packages in stable are > too old to run current Frescobaldi from its Git repository. Now > that I managed to get

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.01.2017 um 09:59 schrieb David Kastrup: > "H. S. Teoh" writes: > >> On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 10:36:02AM +, Dr Nicholas Bailey wrote: >>> Watch out for Debian. There isn't a Lilypond in Testing (Stretch) >>> AFAIK. It's because they've removed the old scheme

Re: Which Linux distro for Lilypond

2017-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
"H. S. Teoh" writes: > On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 10:36:02AM +, Dr Nicholas Bailey wrote: >> Watch out for Debian. There isn't a Lilypond in Testing (Stretch) >> AFAIK. It's because they've removed the old scheme version. I develop >> in Testing in the hope that by the