Re: My quick rundown of how to use OpenLilyLib's Edition Engraver

2018-01-29 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Thank you very much, Stefano! This is very helpful and shall be, like Urs said, added to the Wiki. Best Jan-Peter Am 29.01.2018 um 21:36 schrieb Stefano Troncaro: Hello again everyone! In a recent thread I was asked to write a little bit depicting how I would have liked to learn about using

Re: Any interest in participating in GSoC for SugarLabs project that utilizes lilypond?

2018-01-29 Thread Devin Ulibarri
Hi, I am not going to bump this too many more times, but is anyone interested in being a mentor for GSoC for our project. As a sample, you might be asked for your advice on a question such as: > What do we do about \partial 1/3 and other fractions that we can only approximate with powers of 2

Re: Pitch inflection

2018-01-29 Thread mskala
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018, David Kastrup wrote: > > as closely as possible I don't want to substitute quarter-tone symbols. Is > > there a simple way to insert arrows in place of accidentals? Playback is > > not an issue. > > Quarter notes wouldn't work anyway since you'd not be able to > distinguish a

Re: My quick rundown of how to use OpenLilyLib's Edition Engraver

2018-01-29 Thread Craig Dabelstein
Hi Stefano, I really appreciate your work on this. Thanks so much. All the best, Craig On 30 January 2018 at 08:52, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Hi Stéfano, > I don’t know if I’ll ever use this, but your tutorial/intro is "just > right"! > > Greetlings, Hraban > --- >

Re: Pitch inflection

2018-01-29 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Hi Michael, It probably would have been helpful if you had provided an example (so that we can see how exactly the arrows are supposed to look like). But in the end all boils down to the possibility of replacing a standard accidental by an arbitrary markup. There's a snippet demonstrating how

Re: Pitch inflection

2018-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Taylor writes: > I am transcribing sketches in which small pitch adjustments are notated > using up & down arrows. As my aim is to reproduce the composer's notation > as closely as possible I don't want to substitute quarter-tone symbols. Is > there a simple

Re: My quick rundown of how to use OpenLilyLib's Edition Engraver

2018-01-29 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Hi Stéfano, I don’t know if I’ll ever use this, but your tutorial/intro is "just right"! Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Pitch inflection

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Taylor
I am transcribing sketches in which small pitch adjustments are notated using up & down arrows. As my aim is to reproduce the composer's notation as closely as possible I don't want to substitute quarter-tone symbols. Is there a simple way to insert arrows in place of accidentals? Playback is not

Re: My quick rundown of how to use OpenLilyLib's Edition Engraver

2018-01-29 Thread Ben
On 1/29/2018 3:36 PM, Stefano Troncaro wrote: Hello again everyone! In a recent thread I was asked to write a little bit depicting how I would have liked to learn about using the Edition Engraver. I share it here so that others can give their insights. Hopefully we can make a "quick start

Re: My quick rundown of how to use OpenLilyLib's Edition Engraver

2018-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
Hey Stéfano, this is totally awesome! As far as I can tell your text has exactly the amount of verbosity that is needed to introduce people to this kind of tool. I will have very few and minor clarifications to ask for, and I suggest we put it on the GitHub Wiki page. Thank you very much Urs

My quick rundown of how to use OpenLilyLib's Edition Engraver

2018-01-29 Thread Stefano Troncaro
Hello again everyone! In a recent thread I was asked to write a little bit depicting how I would have liked to learn about using the Edition Engraver. I share it here so that others can give their insights. Hopefully we can make a "quick start guide" kind of thing to help future users. I'll say

Re: aligning lyrics to hidden notes

2018-01-29 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 09:51:59AM -0700, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > In 2.18.2, you can set \override Rest.staff-position = #0 to force the rests > back, or use a development version. Thanks, the override works ! --strk; ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Release tarball URL

2018-01-29 Thread Gwyn Ciesla
Hi! FYI, the release tarball for 2.19.81 is 404. http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/sources/v2.19/lilypond-2.19.81.tar.gz Thank you! -G -- http://cecinestpasunefromage.wordpress.com/ in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread bb
Many thanks to all responses patiently describing how lilypond is doing. I have to accept that lilypond way and I think to understand it now and will internalize it. Thanks and regards! Am 29.01.2018 um 18:22 schrieb David Kastrup: bb writes: There was such a

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
bb writes: > There was such a lot of information in all the responses, thanks. > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/bar-lines-and-bar-checks.en.html > Bar lines > Bar checks > I have read this and I think to understand. > > \cadenzaOn does not set

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 29.01.2018 18:13, bb wrote: I already understand THAT lilypond is checking the bar lines I set myself and give me a message if wrong/critical. But I do not understand why lilypond is setting the same wrong/critical bar line WITHOUT giving me a message. As lilypond obviously checks bar

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
BB-3 wrote > Sorry, needed some time to realize that I expect to much from lilypond > to check automatically set bar lines and such "impossible cases" of > 17/16 itself. That's exactly the point: but it isn't a case of "17/16", it's just a case of a quaver note starting at 16/16 (the notehead

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 29.01.2018 17:00, bb wrote: Sorry, needed some time to realize that I expect too much from lilypond to check automatically set bar lines and such "impossible cases" of 17/16 itself. There are situations where one might want notes crossing a bar line, e.g. mensural layout solutions.

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread bb
Thank you! I already understand THAT lilypond is checking the bar lines I set myself and give me a message if wrong/critical. But I do not understand why lilypond is setting the same wrong/critical bar line WITHOUT giving me a message. As lilypond obviously checks bar length, why not telling

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/29/18, 8:29 AM, "bb" wrote: Nonsense! I do not want lilypond to do it my way. But I want lilypond to throw an error message, a warning or a remark that lilypond is breaking basic rules and help me to improve my limited understanding of

Re: aligning lyrics to hidden notes

2018-01-29 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Hi Sandro, Indeed, Phil's query regarding your LilyPond version is the pivotal question. For two reasons: First reason NullVoice has been introduced in Version 2.18 (as far as I know) Second reason Current development version 2.19.80 (and before) won't have the problem Stripping down your

Re: aligning lyrics to hidden notes

2018-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2018 at 15:31:42 (-), Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Sandro Santilli" > To: "Lilypond users" > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 10:09 AM > Subject: aligning lyrics to hidden notes > > > >I've been trying for some

Re: aligning lyrics to hidden notes

2018-01-29 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 03:31:42PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > 1. Are you really using LilyPond 2.10.33? If so it's staggeringly out of > date and you should upgrade to the latest stable or development version. Uhm, it looks like no, I'm using GNU LilyPond 2.18.2 You mean that the \version

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread bb
Yes I read the answers. For bar checks I have to set bars myself and lilypond tells me if wrong. o. k. Sorry, needed some time to realize that I expect to much from lilypond to check automatically set bar lines and such "impossible cases" of 17/16 itself. Thanks. Am 29.01.2018 um 16:48

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "bb" To: Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 3:29 PM Subject: Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note Nonsense! I do not want lilypond to do it my way. But I want lilypond to throw an error message, a warning

Re: aligning lyrics to hidden notes

2018-01-29 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Sandro Santilli" To: "Lilypond users" Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 10:09 AM Subject: aligning lyrics to hidden notes I've been trying for some time now to align lyrics to an hidden melody but when I try that all the

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread bb
Nonsense! I do not want lilypond to do it my way. But I want lilypond to throw an error message, a warning or a remark  that lilypond is breaking basic rules and help me to improve my limited understanding of music! Am 29.01.2018 um 15:54 schrieb David Wright: On Mon 29 Jan 2018 at 15:16:53

Re: Alignment of full-page scores in text documents

2018-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2018 at 09:03:46 (+0100), Urs Liska wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to figure out the best setting for page margins for mixed > text/music documents. The task is to automatically set the margins > in LilyPond depending on a LaTeX document where full-page scores are > included. > >

Re: Force top-system-spacing to be absolute

2018-01-29 Thread Alexander Kobel
Hi Urs, On 01/29/2018 02:27 PM, Urs Liska wrote: [...] I want to have a score start with a defined position of the first staff symbol to match the type area of a surrounding text document. [...]   #'((basic-distance . 16) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 0)

aligning lyrics to hidden notes

2018-01-29 Thread Sandro Santilli
I've been trying for some time now to align lyrics to an hidden melody but when I try that all the rests end up attached to the bottom line of the pentagram, which looks like a bug in lilypond itself, can anyone see if that's the case (a bug) or I'm doing something wrong ? Here's the .ly file:

Re: Alignment of full-page scores in text documents

2018-01-29 Thread Gilles
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:03:46 +0100, Urs Liska wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to figure out the best setting for page margins for mixed text/music documents. The task is to automatically set the margins in LilyPond depending on a LaTeX document where full-page scores are included. We have the

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2018 at 15:16:53 (+0100), bb wrote: > There was such a lot of information in all the responses, thanks. > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/bar-lines-and-bar-checks.en.html > Bar lines > Bar checks > I have read this and I think to understand. > > \cadenzaOn

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "bb" To: Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 2:16 PM Subject: Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note The point in the example is, that there is one 16th to much in the bar, not one missing. If I count, I get

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread bb
There was such a lot of information in all the responses, thanks. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/bar-lines-and-bar-checks.en.html Bar lines Bar checks I have read this and I think to understand. \cadenzaOn does not set or check barlines and opens freedom to the user,

Re: Force top-system-spacing to be absolute

2018-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
Hey Torsten (and Alexander), thanks, this is the fix. And now that I think of it this is actually logical naming ... Urs Am 29.01.2018 um 14:46 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle: Urs Liska-3 wrote What is the correct way to force the first system to be at an absolute position on the staff, i.e. in

Re: Force top-system-spacing to be absolute

2018-01-29 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Urs Liska-3 wrote > What is the correct way to force the first system to be at an absolute > position on the staff, i.e. in the example the center line exactly 16 > staff spaces below the page border? Hi Urs, I may be mistaken, but a minimum-distance of 0 seems to be the cause (event with

Re: Force top-system-spacing to be absolute

2018-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
Ehm, now also with the second image. Am 29.01.2018 um 14:27 schrieb Urs Liska: Hi, I nearly went nuts trying to figure out what I did wrong with converting staffsize to staffspace to mm to points to bigpoints and not getting anywhere with my score. I want to have a score start with a

Force top-system-spacing to be absolute

2018-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
Hi, I nearly went nuts trying to figure out what I did wrong with converting staffsize to staffspace to mm to points to bigpoints and not getting anywhere with my score. I want to have a score start with a defined position of the first staff symbol to match the type area of a surrounding

Re: Fwd: Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
David Kastrup wrote > Seriously? It's pretty much standard fare [...] Yes, David, no kidding! I couldn't believe it either... Incidentally, a few months ago someone asked me whether I knew how to do this in MuseScore. My first thought was: well, MuseScore is a non-commercial, non-professional

Re: Fwd: Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Torsten Hämmerle writes: > Hi Bernhard, > > a cadenza is rhythmically free, no checks, no limits, no rules. So a > combination of \cadenzaOn and | doesn't make any sense. > > Apart from this - in addition to all the other replies - I'd like to > point out that

Re: Fwd: Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Hi Bernhard, a cadenza is rhythmically free, no checks, no limits, no rules. So a combination of \cadenzaOn and | doesn't make any sense. Apart from this - in addition to all the other replies - I'd like to point out that LilyPond's behaviour (allow note durations to stretch out into the next

Re: Fwd: Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
Am 29.01.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: I always thought bar check is preset on??? Example (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms.html -> Bar checks) I don't see anything about bar checks on that page. The documentation is here:

Fwd: Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
I always thought bar check is preset on??? Example (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms.html -> Bar checks) \version "2.19.80" \cadenzaOn mus = \relative { g'1 | e1 | c2. c' | g4 c g e | c4 r r2 | } << \new Voice \mus If i try this with g'1 e1

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-01-29 11:21 GMT+01:00 Blöchl Bernhard : > Thanks! Usually I take care of the notes in mesures and count correctly, > that was an error by chance I overlooked. So I did not now that lilypond > behaviour. I was awaiting an error message or at least a warning.

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
Am 29.01.2018 um 11:21 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: Thanks! Usually I take care of the notes in mesures and count correctly, that was an error by chance I  overlooked. So I did not now that lilypond behaviour. I was awaiting an error message or at least a warning. No, as Malte said you'll get

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Thanks. I am not a lilypond power user. That was an error by chance, I awaited an error message or a warning. Actually learned Completion_heads_engraver! Regards Am 29.01.2018 10:56, schrieb Malte Meyn: Am 29.01.2018 um 10:53 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: In my limited knowledge of music I think

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Thanks! Usually I take care of the notes in mesures and count correctly, that was an error by chance I overlooked. So I did not now that lilypond behaviour. I was awaiting an error message or at least a warning. Regards Am 29.01.2018 10:56, schrieb Urs Liska: Am 29.01.2018 um 10:53

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 29.01.2018 um 10:53 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: In my limited knowledge of music I think that bar is wrong because of the dotted 8th note? Regards %\version "2.19.80" \version "2.18.20" mus = \relative c'' { d4  cis8  c8  b8. ais8  a  gis } <<   \new Voice \mus LilyPond does the right

Re: turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
Am 29.01.2018 um 10:53 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: In my limited knowledge of music I think that bar is wrong because of the dotted 8th note? Regards %\version "2.19.80" \version "2.18.20" mus = \relative c'' { d4  cis8  c8  b8. ais8  a  gis } <<   \new Voice \mus Indeed, it is, and

turning a blind eye to dotted note

2018-01-29 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
In my limited knowledge of music I think that bar is wrong because of the dotted 8th note? Regards %\version "2.19.80" \version "2.18.20" mus = \relative c'' { d4 cis8 c8 b8. ais8 a gis } << \new Voice \mus ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: TAB with right hand fingering(s) IN CHORDS ?

2018-01-29 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Am 29.01.2018 09:53, schrieb Éric: Hi, Thomas Morley-2 wrote Though, you're right in so far as TabStaff is usually regarded as a notation where already is shown what to _do_. Thus, fingerings, stroke-finger, string-numbers are superfluous. I think a tablature is a notation showing

Re: TAB with right hand fingering(s) IN CHORDS ?

2018-01-29 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Thank you for your help! As you supposed \new TabVoice can handle this construct. I experimented a bit and found that one can define even one finger for a chord. That is important for Banjo played clawhammer style there single strings are hit and the chords are brushed with the back of the

Re: where to download the "2.19.81" binary for windows

2018-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
mosea chen writes: > As the "The requested URL > /lilypond/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.19.81-1.mingw.exe was not found on this > server.", where else can i get it? There are currently problems with the upload getting sorted out. Just wait a day or so. -- David Kastrup

Re: TAB with right hand fingering(s) IN CHORDS ?

2018-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Éric writes: > Thomas Morley-2 wrote >> Though, you're right in so far as TabStaff is usually regarded as a >> notation where already is shown what to _do_. >> Thus, fingerings, stroke-finger, string-numbers are superfluous. > > I think a tablature is a notation showing

Re: TAB with right hand fingering(s) IN CHORDS ?

2018-01-29 Thread Éric
Hi, Thomas Morley-2 wrote > Though, you're right in so far as TabStaff is usually regarded as a > notation where already is shown what to _do_. > Thus, fingerings, stroke-finger, string-numbers are superfluous. I think a tablature is a notation showing where_to_go but not how_to_do_it. So

Re: where to download the "2.19.81" binary for windows

2018-01-29 Thread Phil Holmes
Until this is sorted out, binaries can be downloaded from http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/ -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Phil Holmes To: mosea chen ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 8:29 AM Subject: Re: where to download the

Re: where to download the "2.19.81" binary for windows

2018-01-29 Thread Phil Holmes
Lilypond.org is now using a new server. The downloads used to be copied from the old server to the linuxaudio.org server, but it looks like that is not yet working. Please watch this space for updates. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: mosea chen To:

Alignment of full-page scores in text documents

2018-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, I'm trying to figure out the best setting for page margins for mixed text/music documents. The task is to automatically set the margins in LilyPond depending on a LaTeX document where full-page scores are included. We have the horizontal margins more or less fixed, by default