Re: Installing Frescobaldi 3.1.3 on Mac with MacOS 12.1

2022-09-02 Thread Michael Hendry
On 2 Sep 2022, at 17:29, Knute Snortum wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 12:30 AM Michael Hendry > wrote: >> >> Thanks to Omer and Jean for getting me back on the Frescobaldi road again. >> >> I’m now able to open, edit and compile lilypond source documents again, but >> I’m getting a lot

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

2022-09-02 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 02/09/2022 à 22:43, J Martin Rushton a écrit : I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous attempts to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its dependency hell. [...] I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps. Would it work for you to us the Frescobaldi

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

2022-09-02 Thread Andrew Bernard
Well well. Alma Linux is indeed a fine distro, but now I agree with you about dependencies on this linux. Part of the process to install PyQt4 is to install enough of Qt4 to get qmake and that's a nightmare. It's absurdly complicated. And Qt4 has been obsoleted anyway, making this all that

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

2022-09-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 22:46:01 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote: > On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 16:17 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote: > > > I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous > > > attempts > > > to get Frescobaldi

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

2022-09-02 Thread Andrew Bernard
I've come late to this thread, but if you are on Alma Linux I'll run a VM up and figure this for you. Don''t despair. I'm not aware of any 'dependency hell' on several other Linux distros, so let me sort this out and post a set of instructions how to install it. Andrew On 3/09/2022 6:43

Re: docs about Rest vertical position

2022-09-02 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Martín, > how do you think that this feature is more useful than \tweaking the y-offset? I don't, personally. =) > If the documentation explains how to move a rest, the officially recommended > way should be using \tweak in my opinion. I agree. I was simply offering a less… um… nuclear

Re: Create 16th-century microtonal accidental

2022-09-02 Thread Johannes Keller
... perfect, exactly what I was looking for, thank you, very much appreciated! ... Werner LEMBERG writes: >> A modern half note, sorry for the unclear terminology. The original >> notation puts the dot above the (centered) minim stem, but in a modern >> transcription I would prefer to have the

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

2022-09-02 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello folks, > Le 2 sept. 2022 à 23:46, J Martin Rushton a > écrit : > > On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 16:17 -0500, David Wright wrote: >> On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote: >>> I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous >>> attempts >>> to get

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

2022-09-02 Thread J Martin Rushton
On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 16:17 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote: > > I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous > > attempts > > to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its > > dependency > > hell. > > > > Is

Re: docs about Rest vertical position

2022-09-02 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Fr., 2. Sept. 2022 um 21:44 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra : > [...] moving \rest to a footnote or undocumenting it altogether. > Whether its outright removal is desirable is another question. > > This is veering into lilypond-devel territory, maybe we should continue the > discussion there?

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

2022-09-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote: > I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous attempts > to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its dependency > hell. > > Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi? An editor (emacs) + LilyPond + PDF

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

2022-09-02 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hi Martin, that depends on what you consider an alternative to Frescobaldi. Lilypond can be used with any text editor. There is a quite powerful Lilypond module for VSCode, maybe that is something along the lines of what you are looking for? Cheers, Valentin Am Freitag, 2. September 2022,

Alternative to Frescobaldi

2022-09-02 Thread J Martin Rushton
I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous attempts to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its dependency hell. Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi? I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps. -- J Martin Rushton MBCS

Re: docs about Rest vertical position

2022-09-02 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Well, we're mostly agreeing ;-). I wouldn't support pointing out the downsides of note+rest as suggested by Kieren nor I'm sure that I agree it's useful to know about note+rest: if \tweak is the proper way to do it, let's document that instead. > > On Sep 2, 2022 at

Re: docs about Rest vertical position

2022-09-02 Thread Eef Weenink
My two cents: Tweaking the position is fine to avoid a collision or to keep a rest about the same “viewing” line then the notes of a phrase But, or better And: When composing; arranging it happens often that a note is skipped (read: turned into a ‘rest’). Think about note patterns what repeat,

Re: docs about Rest vertical position

2022-09-02 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 02/09/2022 à 21:31, Martín Rincón Botero a écrit : Hi Kieren, how do you think that this feature is more useful than \tweaking the y-offset? If the documentation explains how to move a rest, the officially recommended way should be using \tweak in my opinion. It's unclear to me what's the

Re: docs about Rest vertical position

2022-09-02 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Hi Kieren, how do you think that this feature is more useful than \tweaking the y-offset? If the documentation explains how to move a rest, the officially recommended way should be using \tweak in my opinion. It's unclear to me what's the use case of the option of adding a

Re: Create 16th-century microtonal accidental

2022-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> A modern half note, sorry for the unclear terminology. The original > notation puts the dot above the (centered) minim stem, but in a modern > transcription I would prefer to have the dot above the notehead. OK. ``` { \override Script.add-stem-support = ##f \override

Re: Create 16th-century microtonal accidental

2022-09-02 Thread Johannes Keller
A modern half note, sorry for the unclear terminology. The original notation puts the dot above the (centered) minim stem, but in a modern transcription I would prefer to have the dot above the notehead. Werner LEMBERG writes: >> Thank you! Is there a way to keep the staccato dot just above

Re: Installing Frescobaldi 3.1.3 on Mac with MacOS 12.1

2022-09-02 Thread Knute Snortum
On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 12:30 AM Michael Hendry wrote: > > Thanks to Omer and Jean for getting me back on the Frescobaldi road again. > > I’m now able to open, edit and compile lilypond source documents again, but > I’m getting a lot of warnings about deprecated code which I’d like to get rid >

Re: docs about Rest vertical position

2022-09-02 Thread Kieren MacMillan
A little more context: >“To explicitly specify a rest’s vertical position, write a note followed > by \rest.” > While this is a useful thing to know about, I don't personally believe it's a > best practice: it mixes content with presentation, it doesn't play well with > \transpose, etc.

docs about Rest vertical position

2022-09-02 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, I was answering a user's question on the FB group, and noted that in the docs, we suggest “To explicitly specify a rest’s vertical position, write a note followed by \rest.” While this is a useful thing to know about, I don't personally believe it's a best practice: it mixes

Re: Create 16th-century microtonal accidental

2022-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Thank you! Is there a way to keep the staccato dot just above the > notehead also when there is a stem (on a minima for example)? A minima? Really? How shall this look like? Contrary to modern notation, the stems of minimae and friends are horizontally centered... Werner

Re: Create 16th-century microtonal accidental

2022-09-02 Thread Johannes Keller
Thank you! Is there a way to keep the staccato dot just above the notehead also when there is a stem (on a minima for example)? ``` g2^. ``` Best! Johannes Werner LEMBERG writes: >> To mimic the appearance of this sign I need to place a dot centered >> above the notehead in the next

Re: Create 16th-century microtonal accidental

2022-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> To mimic the appearance of this sign I need to place a dot centered > above the notehead in the next available space (not above the staff > like articulations, not on staff lines). What about a normal staccato point? You can force its direction by using `^`, for example ``` g\breve^. ```

Create 16th-century microtonal accidental

2022-09-02 Thread Johannes Keller
Hello! I would like to use Lilypond for a critical edition of Nicola Vicentino's treatise "L'antica musica" (Rome 1555). The original notation uses an unconventional accidental to indicate a pitch modification of a "Diesis" (ca. 1/5 of a whole tone). To mimic the appearance of this sign I need to

Re: Installing Frescobaldi 3.1.3 on Mac with MacOS 12.1

2022-09-02 Thread Michael Hendry
Thanks to Omer and Jean for getting me back on the Frescobaldi road again. I’m now able to open, edit and compile lilypond source documents again, but I’m getting a lot of warnings about deprecated code which I’d like to get rid of. When I attempt to use ‘convert.ly’ (via Frescobaldi’s Tools