2013/1/19 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:19:33AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
I was just pointing out that LilyPond's default is not all-lunatic.
I'd like to eat some crow, as it seems I'm the lunatic in this
thread for which I
Am 18.01.2013 06:03, schrieb Jim Long:
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There is no confusion at all. The source file tells Lilypond
exactly where the double bars should be. Lilypond knows that at
several places, the source code says:
\bar || \break
As I understood Johan's suggestion, Lilypond should interpret
that to
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:
Except that it does not work with \repeat, AFAIK.
Yes, it does.
c1 \bar ||: \break
\repeat volta 2 { d2 d }
Sorry if I was unclear -- what I meant to say is that IMHO LilyPond
should be able to handle this correctly:
c1 \bar || \break
\repeat volta 2 {
Am 18.01.2013 09:39, schrieb Johan Vromans:
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:
Except that it does not work with \repeat, AFAIK.
Yes, it does.
c1 \bar ||: \break
\repeat volta 2 { d2 d }
Sorry if I was unclear -- what I meant to say is that IMHO LilyPond
should be able to handle this
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes:
According to the common interpretation of the :| symbol, repetition is
to start at a |: and if there's none, the music must be repeated from the
beginning -- clearly not what is intended.
URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_symbols
Enclose a passage that is to be played more than once. If there is
no left repeat sign, the right repeat sign sends the performer back
to the start of the piece or the nearest double bar.
Interesting. This is the first time ever that I've heard about this
rule w.r.t. the double bar.
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes:
Enclose a passage that is to be played more than once. If there is
no left repeat sign, the right repeat sign sends the performer back
to the start of the piece or the nearest double bar.
Interesting. This is the first time ever that I've heard about
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
I was just pointing out that LilyPond's default is not all-lunatic.
My apologies if I accidentally said something that suggested that.
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On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:19:33AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
I was just pointing out that LilyPond's default is not all-lunatic.
I'd like to eat some crow, as it seems I'm the lunatic in this
thread for which I must apologize. :( I mis-characterized this
issue based on a mis-recollection of
Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:19:33AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
I was just pointing out that LilyPond's default is not all-lunatic.
I'd like to eat some crow, as it seems I'm the lunatic in this
thread for which I must apologize.
I was not stating
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nlwrote:
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de writes:
I knew about the |: bar statement, but also that I can't use two bars
for the
same moment. The grace hint works like a charm, thanks Johan.
Johan -
In case you don't know
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nlwrote:
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de writes:
I knew about the |: bar statement, but also that I can't use two bars
for the same moment. The grace hint
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de writes:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
In addition, you can specify ||:, which is equivalent to |: except at
line breaks, where it gives a double bar line at the end of the line and a
start repeat at the beginning of the next
2013/1/17 Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl:
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de writes:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
In addition, you can specify ||:, which is equivalent to |: except at
line breaks, where it gives a double bar line at the end of the line and
Am 17.01.2013 19:39, schrieb Johan Vromans:
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de writes:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
In addition, you can specify ||:, which is equivalent to |: except at
line breaks, where it gives a double bar line at the end of the line and a
Am 17.01.2013 19:56, schrieb Thomas Morley:
2013/1/17 Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl:
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de writes:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
In addition, you can specify ||:, which is equivalent to |: except at
line breaks, where it gives
With respect, I think Johan's point is that along the lines of a
recent thread about having Lilypond generally 'do the right
thing' by default while preserving its immense amount of control
over the details, wouldn't it be a beneficial feature to have
Lilypond handle the situation automatically?
Am 17.01.2013 23:17, schrieb Jim Long:
If I understand Johan correctly, he is saying that at some point
in the future, it would be nice to have Lilypond handle this
automatically, and put a double barline at the end of each
section A through D, whether the next section begins with a volta
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote:
With respect, I think Johan's point is that along the lines of a
recent thread about having Lilypond generally 'do the right
thing' by default while preserving its immense amount of control
over the details, wouldn't it
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:52:14PM -0500, Ralph Palmer wrote:
Consider a composition of the form
A B A C A D A E
The composer requires that each section begin on a new line of
the page; and end with a double barline, except the final
section:
A = { ... \bar || \break }
...
When I encounter this situation I use:
\bar :|
\grace s16
\bar |:
in place of \re[eat volta.
I don't use \unfold so I wonder if the following would work for you:
\bar ||
\grace s16
\bar |:
I'll also try \bar ||: instead of using \grace.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Marc Hohl
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:
Lilypond has a special bar line type for this: \bar ||: should do
the trick.
I agree with OP that LP should deal with this situation without
having to resort to tricks.
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keith Luke kkll...@gmail.com writes:
When I encounter this situation I use:
\bar :|
\grace s16
\bar |:
\bar || \break
\grace s16
\repeat volta 2 {
works as well.
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Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013, 08:52:16 schrieb Marc Hohl:
Hello dear list
I'm writing a score that has a \bar || at the end of a system, and a
volta repeat beginning in the following system after the line break. It
seems that the \bar command overwrites the |: of the following volta,
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de writes:
I knew about the |: bar statement, but also that I can't use two bars for the
same moment. The grace hint works like a charm, thanks Johan.
Credits - Keith Luke
-- Johan
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Hello dear list
I'm writing a score that has a \bar || at the end of a system, and a volta
repeat beginning in the following system after the line break. It seems that
the \bar command overwrites the |: of the following volta, making that
invisible. Is there a way to get what I desire?
Thank you
Am 16.01.2013 04:04, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:
Hello dear list
I'm writing a score that has a \bar || at the end of a system, and a volta
repeat beginning in the following system after the line break. It seems that
the \bar command overwrites the |: of the following volta, making that
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