Hi Joram,
Yes, of course, I can say now after your replay and explanation. Why
didn't I see this myself? For what you point out, of course I have seen
this with hierarchy and different kinds of staff grouping a lot of times
when reading the documentation. But I did not realize the
Dear Kaj,
you are brave to really dig through all this! That's a good thing. I
think I can help you here, too:
It is correct (and it works like expected) if you do
\override StaffGroup.StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.padding = 30
like I wrote. But only (!) if your grouping context is a
of the spacing settings and an example (on the
left) how to change them. If you know that there are different settings in the
paper and in the layout block and that there are fixed distances (in mm, cm, in)
and flexible spacings (minimum-distance, basic-distance, padding,
strechability), then this cheat sheet
Hi Trevor,
thanks I missed that paragraph.
See
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-paper-variables
Joram
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Noeck wrote Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:05 PM
I would also be interested in how the stretchability value is used.
I assumed it would be someting like \vfill in LaTeX, in this case only the
relative value with respect to other spacings would be significant – i.e. the
available extra space
Hi,
I would also be interested in how the stretchability value is used.
I assumed it would be someting like \vfill in LaTeX, in this case only the
relative value with respect to other spacings would be significant – i.e. the
available extra space would be shared in proportions of the
Thanks Trevor!
So this with stretching demands to be the next thing to put your teeth into.
/Kaj
Den 2015-02-21 23:15, skrev Trevor Daniels:
Kaj wrote Saturday, February 21, 2015 9:10 PM
One thing (among others) I still do not understand: why are there three
keys describing the distance
Kaj wrote Saturday, February 21, 2015 9:10 PM
One thing (among others) I still do not understand: why are there three
keys describing the distance between staves and systems? In the Notation
Reference
Hi Kieren!
Thanks for the info.
You might be correct in what you suggest. However so far I have not seen
any complete description of stretchability. There are some words in the
paragraphs about Structure of flexible vertical spacing alists (the
link I gave in my previous note), but those are
On 2015-02-21 06:04 AM, Noeck wrote:
Hi Kaj, hi Lilypond users,
I also would like to say that again that spacing is a bit daunting. But I hope
with the help you got here, it is possible to adjust the spacing you need. The
deeper understanding will come with time and it is difficult if one wants
) how to change them. If you know that there are different settings in the
paper and in the layout block and that there are fixed distances (in mm, cm, in)
and flexible spacings (minimum-distance, basic-distance, padding,
strechability), then this cheat sheet should make it easier to adjust all
settings in the
paper and in the layout block and that there are fixed distances (in mm, cm,
in)
and flexible spacings (minimum-distance, basic-distance, padding,
strechability), then this cheat sheet should make it easier to adjust all
these
to your liking.
Cheers,
Joram
PS: Lyrics
, padding,
strechability), then this cheat sheet should make it easier to adjust all
these
to your liking.
Cheers,
Joram
PS: Lyrics and other nonstaff spacings are to be done.
Thank you for sharing this, Joram! I think this will be a big help.
Ralph
--
Ralph Palmer
Brattleboro, VT
USA
Hi,
I've seen it once – didn't realize it is so similar. It doesn't contain the
spacing within a score, though, which was the issue of the original thread.
http://joramberger.de/files/LilypondSpacing.pdf
Here's another visual guide that Abraham Lee created that's similar:
-distance, basic-distance, padding,
strechability), then this cheat sheet should make it easier to adjust all these
to your liking.
Cheers,
Joram
PS: Lyrics and other nonstaff spacings are to be done.
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Hi Kaj (et al.),
if I understand it correct, the effective (resulting) distance will always be
the biggest of the three, hence
effective_distance = max(minimum-distance; basic-distance; padding).
Is there any reason to use three, one should be sufficient.
If I understand correctly, three
Noeck wrote
To make the use of spacing settings easier, I put the most relevant
settings on
this page:
http://joramberger.de/files/LilypondSpacing.pdf
Thanks Joram, this is very helpful!
Here's another visual guide that Abraham Lee created that's similar:
alterations doesn't fit to \language français
… I will update it within some days. …
Done.
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2014/1/1 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de:
Hi all,
as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets
for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the
corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages:
English: http://joramberger.de/files
also an Italian version of this cheat sheet:
http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_it.pdf
Cheers,
Joram
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Good job! Thanks (I'll give the links on the French list when updated).
- Commentaire % … und %{ … %}
+ Commentaire % … et %{ … %}
[ ... ]
Perhaps too late, but
alterations doesn't fit to \language français
is - d
ish - sd
isis - dd
isih - dsd
es - b
eh - sb
eses - bb
eseh -
Hi Gilles,
Perhaps too late, but
alterations doesn't fit to \language français
Ah, thanks, I missed that. And no, it is not too late, I will update it
within some days. This also concerns the other languages.
Thanks again,
Joram
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Hi all,
as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets
for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the
corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages:
English: http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_en.pdf
German: http
2014/1/1 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de
as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets
for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the
corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages:
English: http://joramberger.de/files
if you send the .ly file I may translate it to italian
That would be nice. The editable source is an Inkscape svg file, you can
download it by changing the file extension in the link from pdf to svg:
http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_en.svg
Cheers,
Joram
Le 01/01/2014 18:50, Noeck disait :
Hi all,
* The French translation is probably rather poorly done by me.
Corrections and other comments to all language versions are welcome!
Good job! Thanks (I'll give the links on the French list when updated).
- Commentaire % … und %{ … %}
+
2014/1/1 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de:
Hi all,
as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets
for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the
corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages:
Hi Joram,
I forwarded it to the german forum
Hi Jean-Charles,
thanks for your comments! I have a few questions left:
- pause invisible
+ silence invisible
in general pause - silence, too?
- erhöht
+ élève
élève and not élevé?
- erniedrigt
+ abaisse
and not abaissé?
I have updated it:
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi all,
as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets
for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the
corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages:
English: http
Thank you, Joram!
P
Noeck wrote:
Hi all,
as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets
for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the
corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages:
English: http://joramberger.de/files
2014/1/1 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de
if you send the .ly file I may translate it to italian
That would be nice. The editable source is an Inkscape svg file, you can
download it by changing the file extension in the link from pdf to svg:
http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_en.svg
That would be nice. The editable source is an Inkscape svg file,
you can
download it by changing the file extension in the link from pdf to svg:
http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_en.svg
oh, too much trouble, I give up :(
Oh, that’s a pity. I don’t want to urge
True, but I have a different problem: if the translated text is longer,
objects should be re-aligned. See attached file.
Before using Inkscape I did a quick search to see if there's a better
way to handle localization of SVG files and I found this:
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
3. Inkscape is a very nice free software for vector graphics running
on different operating systems. Using it and changing the text is
really easy.
When I try it it runs into all kinds of fonts issues. Apparently you
used nonstandard fonts (except for
When I try it it runs into all kinds of fonts issues. Apparently you
used nonstandard fonts (except for Emmentaler).
Yes, I chose some non-standard fonts ;)
Century Schoolbook L (the text font Lilypond uses)
Ubuntu Mono (Ubuntus monospace font)
Joram
Hi Joram,
Thank you for the updates cheat sheet.
As a matter of fact I just printed both cheat sheets on one sheet of paper
and laminated it. Two sides of invaluable LilyPond information :-)
Hint 1: use heavier stock paper when printing double sided.
Hint 2: print borderless for printing
Am 09.11.2011 17:31, schrieb David Kastrup:
Trevor Danielst.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:03 PM
The octave of notes may also be checked with the
`\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command. `CONTROLPITCH' is specified in
absolute mode. This
2011/11/8 Tim Roberts t...@probo.com:
Is there a simple mnemonic aid that can help me remember which part of a
given token is the one that carries forward? Individual notes are easy.
Within a chord is easy. I believe that the first note of a chord then
carries forward to the next token. But
2011/11/10 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com:
musicOne = \relative f { c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c }
musicTwo = \relative f { e f g a b c d e f g a b c d e }
\score {
\relative f {
\musicOne
\musicTwo
}
}
%%%
This way you do not mix relative
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:30:15AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote:
Am 09.11.2011 17:31, schrieb David Kastrup:
Trevor Danielst.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
This is a popular misconception, but it is wrong, as
you can see by introducing various accidentals.
I was merely quoting the manual, so if you
Am 09.11.2011 00:59, schrieb Carl Sorensen:
On 11/8/11 1:32 PM, Tim Robertst...@probo.com wrote:
As I do more and more
LilyPond data entry, I find the skill set development to be
interesting. I've become pretty quick at data entry now,
including dynamics and
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:
It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends only on
the order in which they appear in the input file.
Thanks, that's an easy-to-remember rule. It deserves prominent placement
in the documentation.
Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:
It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends
only on the order in which they appear in the input file.
Thanks, that's an easy-to-remember rule.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:38 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:
It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends
only on the order in which they
Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com writes:
Ah! So the simple rule about simple rules still applies :-)
Back to my previous approach, then: Use point and click to select the
first note with the wrong octave, change it, and re-run lilypond.
Or write octave checks.
In relative mode, it
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:03 PM
The octave of notes may also be checked with the
`\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command. `CONTROLPITCH' is specified
in
absolute mode. This checks that the interval between the previous
note
and the `CONTROLPITCH' is within a fourth
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:03 PM
The octave of notes may also be checked with the
`\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command. `CONTROLPITCH' is specified in
absolute mode. This checks that the interval between the previous
As I do more and more LilyPond data entry, I find the skill set
development to be interesting. I've become pretty quick at data entry
now, including dynamics and articulation marks. I've become pretty good
at tweaking the output to get the effects I want.
The skill that is NOT developing,
On 11/8/11 1:32 PM, Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote:
As I do more and more
LilyPond data entry, I find the skill set development to be
interesting. I've become pretty quick at data entry now,
including dynamics and articulation marks. I've become pretty good
at
On 09/12/2011 04:19 PM, Nick Payne wrote:
... elision by patrick...
I can't print it from Adobe Reader on Ubuntu either. I also opened it
in the default PDF document viewer that comes with Ubuntu (Evince),
and in that, most of the text just displays as blocks of various sizes
and shades - see
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer
reinh...@kainhofer.comwrote:
Attached you can find the PDF version of this cheat sheet:
http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/~reinhold/temp/2011-08-24_LilyPond_CheatSheet_Basic.pdf
Thanks, Reinhold!
I, also, was unable to print the cheat sheet
On 13 Sep 2011, at 00:19, Nick Payne wrote:
On 13/09/11 04:55, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
Am Montag, 12. September 2011, 19:21:02 schrieb Helge Kruse:
But when I try to
send the PDF to my printer I get the messages
Das Dokument konnte nicht gedruckt werden.
(The document could be
If nothing else works, there is this (for command-line buffs possibly
dissatisfactory) option of online conversion at, e.g.,
http://docupub.com/pdfconvert/
This worked for me, anyway.
Nice work, Reinhold, and thanks for sharing!
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:34 AM, Damian leGassick
the basic LilyPond syntax available compressed on
one single sheet. I have created such a cheat sheet that displays the basic
lilypond syntax and usage (without any tweaks and overrides) on one single
page, while also being visually appealing.
The cheat sheet is meant to be a quick summary of the things
Dear all,
Sometimes it can be very useful -- in particular for new and not so
experienced users -- to have the basic LilyPond syntax available compressed on
one single sheet. I have created such a cheat sheet that displays the basic
lilypond syntax and usage (without any tweaks and overrides
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 14:39, Reinhold Kainhofer
reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote:
Attached you can find the PDF version of this cheat sheet:
http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/~reinhold/temp/2011-08-24_LilyPond_CheatSheet_Basic.pdf
Looks very nice!
Christ van Willegen
--
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B
Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes:
Dear all, Sometimes it can be very useful -- in particular for new and
not so experienced users -- to have the basic LilyPond syntax
available compressed on one single sheet. I have created such a cheat
sheet that displays the basic lilypond
have created such a cheat
sheet that displays the basic lilypond syntax and usage (without any
tweaks and overrides) on one single page, while also being visually
appealing.
How does it relate/compare to appendix B in the notation manual?
Anything you might consider worth adding
Am 12.09.2011 14:39, schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer:
Dear all,
Sometimes it can be very useful -- in particular for new and not so
experienced users -- to have the basic LilyPond syntax available compressed on
one single sheet. I have created such a cheat sheet that displays the basic
lilypond
- Original Message -
From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet
Am 12.09.2011 14:39, schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer:
Dear all,
Sometimes it can be very useful -- in particular
compressed on
one single sheet. I have created such a cheat sheet that displays the
basic
lilypond syntax and usage (without any tweaks and overrides) on one
single
page, while also being visually appealing.
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On Sep 12, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote:
- Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet
Am 12.09.2011 14:39, schrieb Reinhold
Am Montag, 12. September 2011, 19:21:02 schrieb Helge Kruse:
But when I try to
send the PDF to my printer I get the messages
Das Dokument konnte nicht gedruckt werden.
(The document could be printed.)
Keine zum Drucken ausgewählte Seiten vorhanden.
(There are no pages
On 13/09/11 04:55, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
Am Montag, 12. September 2011, 19:21:02 schrieb Helge Kruse:
But when I try to
send the PDF to my printer I get the messages
Das Dokument konnte nicht gedruckt werden.
(The document could be printed.)
Keine zum Drucken ausgewählte
Am 12.09.2011 20:55, schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer:
No, printing is not disallowed. It is probably some incompatibility with
Acrobat Reader.
I can print it just fine from okular.
Do you consider to make it Adobe compatible?
Regards,
Helge
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