Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-03-12 Thread Kaj
Hi Joram, Yes, of course, I can say now after your replay and explanation. Why didn't I see this myself? For what you point out, of course I have seen this with hierarchy and different kinds of staff grouping a lot of times when reading the documentation. But I did not realize the

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-03-11 Thread Noeck
Dear Kaj, you are brave to really dig through all this! That's a good thing. I think I can help you here, too: It is correct (and it works like expected) if you do \override StaffGroup.StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.padding = 30 like I wrote. But only (!) if your grouping context is a

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-03-11 Thread Kaj
of the spacing settings and an example (on the left) how to change them. If you know that there are different settings in the paper and in the layout block and that there are fixed distances (in mm, cm, in) and flexible spacings (minimum-distance, basic-distance, padding, strechability), then this cheat sheet

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-23 Thread Noeck
Hi Trevor, thanks I missed that paragraph. See http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-paper-variables Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Noeck wrote Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:05 PM I would also be interested in how the stretchability value is used. I assumed it would be someting like \vfill in LaTeX, in this case only the relative value with respect to other spacings would be significant – i.e. the available extra space

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-22 Thread Noeck
Hi, I would also be interested in how the stretchability value is used. I assumed it would be someting like \vfill in LaTeX, in this case only the relative value with respect to other spacings would be significant – i.e. the available extra space would be shared in proportions of the

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-21 Thread Kaj
Thanks Trevor! So this with stretching demands to be the next thing to put your teeth into. /Kaj Den 2015-02-21 23:15, skrev Trevor Daniels: Kaj wrote Saturday, February 21, 2015 9:10 PM One thing (among others) I still do not understand: why are there three keys describing the distance

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance betweensystems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Kaj wrote Saturday, February 21, 2015 9:10 PM One thing (among others) I still do not understand: why are there three keys describing the distance between staves and systems? In the Notation Reference

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-21 Thread Kaj
Hi Kieren! Thanks for the info. You might be correct in what you suggest. However so far I have not seen any complete description of stretchability. There are some words in the paragraphs about Structure of flexible vertical spacing alists (the link I gave in my previous note), but those are

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-21 Thread Colin Campbell
On 2015-02-21 06:04 AM, Noeck wrote: Hi Kaj, hi Lilypond users, I also would like to say that again that spacing is a bit daunting. But I hope with the help you got here, it is possible to adjust the spacing you need. The deeper understanding will come with time and it is difficult if one wants

Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Noeck
) how to change them. If you know that there are different settings in the paper and in the layout block and that there are fixed distances (in mm, cm, in) and flexible spacings (minimum-distance, basic-distance, padding, strechability), then this cheat sheet should make it easier to adjust all

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Peter Danemo
settings in the paper and in the layout block and that there are fixed distances (in mm, cm, in) and flexible spacings (minimum-distance, basic-distance, padding, strechability), then this cheat sheet should make it easier to adjust all these to your liking. Cheers, Joram PS: Lyrics

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Ralph Palmer
, padding, strechability), then this cheat sheet should make it easier to adjust all these to your liking. Cheers, Joram PS: Lyrics and other nonstaff spacings are to be done. Thank you for sharing this, Joram! I think this will be a big help. Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-21 Thread Noeck
Hi, I've seen it once – didn't realize it is so similar. It doesn't contain the spacing within a score, though, which was the issue of the original thread. http://joramberger.de/files/LilypondSpacing.pdf Here's another visual guide that Abraham Lee created that's similar:

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Kaj
-distance, basic-distance, padding, strechability), then this cheat sheet should make it easier to adjust all these to your liking. Cheers, Joram PS: Lyrics and other nonstaff spacings are to be done. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Kaj (et al.), if I understand it correct, the effective (resulting) distance will always be the biggest of the three, hence effective_distance = max(minimum-distance; basic-distance; padding). Is there any reason to use three, one should be sufficient. If I understand correctly, three

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Paul Morris
Noeck wrote To make the use of spacing settings easier, I put the most relevant settings on this page: http://joramberger.de/files/LilypondSpacing.pdf Thanks Joram, this is very helpful! Here's another visual guide that Abraham Lee created that's similar:

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-06 Thread Noeck
alterations doesn't fit to \language français … I will update it within some days. … Done. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
2014/1/1 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de: Hi all, as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages: English: http://joramberger.de/files

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-04 Thread Noeck
also an Italian version of this cheat sheet: http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_it.pdf Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-04 Thread Gilles
Good job! Thanks (I'll give the links on the French list when updated). - Commentaire % … und %{ … %} + Commentaire % … et %{ … %} [ ... ] Perhaps too late, but alterations doesn't fit to \language français is - d ish - sd isis - dd isih - dsd es - b eh - sb eses - bb eseh -

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-04 Thread Noeck
Hi Gilles, Perhaps too late, but alterations doesn't fit to \language français Ah, thanks, I missed that. And no, it is not too late, I will update it within some days. This also concerns the other languages. Thanks again, Joram ___

Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Noeck
Hi all, as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages: English: http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_en.pdf German: http

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Federico Bruni
2014/1/1 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages: English: http://joramberger.de/files

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Noeck
if you send the .ly file I may translate it to italian That would be nice. The editable source is an Inkscape svg file, you can download it by changing the file extension in the link from pdf to svg: http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_en.svg Cheers, Joram

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 01/01/2014 18:50, Noeck disait : Hi all, * The French translation is probably rather poorly done by me. Corrections and other comments to all language versions are welcome! Good job! Thanks (I'll give the links on the French list when updated). - Commentaire % … und %{ … %} +

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Thomas Morley
2014/1/1 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de: Hi all, as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages: Hi Joram, I forwarded it to the german forum

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Noeck
Hi Jean-Charles, thanks for your comments! I have a few questions left: - pause invisible + silence invisible in general pause - silence, too? - erhöht + élève élève and not élevé? - erniedrigt + abaisse and not abaissé? I have updated it:

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote: Hi all, as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages: English: http

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread PMA
Thank you, Joram! P Noeck wrote: Hi all, as promised after the release of 2.16, I update my Lilypond cheat sheets for each stable version. After 2.18 came out recently, here is the corresponding version of my cheat sheet in three languages: English: http://joramberger.de/files

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Federico Bruni
2014/1/1 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de if you send the .ly file I may translate it to italian That would be nice. The editable source is an Inkscape svg file, you can download it by changing the file extension in the link from pdf to svg: http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_en.svg

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Noeck
That would be nice. The editable source is an Inkscape svg file, you can download it by changing the file extension in the link from pdf to svg: http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_sheet_2.18_en.svg oh, too much trouble, I give up :( Oh, that’s a pity. I don’t want to urge

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Noeck
True, but I have a different problem: if the translated text is longer, objects should be re-aligned. See attached file. Before using Inkscape I did a quick search to see if there's a better way to handle localization of SVG files and I found this:

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Johan Vromans
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes: 3. Inkscape is a very nice free software for vector graphics running on different operating systems. Using it and changing the text is really easy. When I try it it runs into all kinds of fonts issues. Apparently you used nonstandard fonts (except for

Re: Lilypond Cheat Sheet 2.18

2014-01-01 Thread Noeck
When I try it it runs into all kinds of fonts issues. Apparently you used nonstandard fonts (except for Emmentaler). Yes, I chose some non-standard fonts ;) Century Schoolbook L (the text font Lilypond uses) Ubuntu Mono (Ubuntus monospace font) Joram

Re: Lilypond cheat sheet

2012-11-11 Thread Olivier Biot
Hi Joram, Thank you for the updates cheat sheet. As a matter of fact I just printed both cheat sheets on one sheet of paper and laminated it. Two sides of invaluable LilyPond information :-) Hint 1: use heavier stock paper when printing double sided. Hint 2: print borderless for printing

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.11.2011 17:31, schrieb David Kastrup: Trevor Danielst.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:03 PM The octave of notes may also be checked with the `\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command. `CONTROLPITCH' is specified in absolute mode. This

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/11/8 Tim Roberts t...@probo.com: Is there a simple mnemonic aid that can help me remember which part of a given token is the one that carries forward?  Individual notes are easy. Within a chord is easy.  I believe that the first note of a chord then carries forward to the next token.  But

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/11/10 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com: musicOne = \relative f  { c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c } musicTwo = \relative f  { e f g a b c d e f g a b c d e } \score {  \relative f {          \musicOne      \musicTwo      } } %%% This way you do not mix relative

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:30:15AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: Am 09.11.2011 17:31, schrieb David Kastrup: Trevor Danielst.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: This is a popular misconception, but it is wrong, as you can see by introducing various accidentals. I was merely quoting the manual, so if you

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.11.2011 00:59, schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 11/8/11 1:32 PM, Tim Robertst...@probo.com wrote: As I do more and more LilyPond data entry, I find the skill set development to be interesting. I've become pretty quick at data entry now, including dynamics and

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread Michael Ellis
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends only on the order in which they appear in the input file. Thanks, that's an easy-to-remember rule. It deserves prominent placement in the documentation.

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends only on the order in which they appear in the input file. Thanks, that's an easy-to-remember rule.  

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread Michael Ellis
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:38 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends only on the order in which they

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com writes: Ah! So the simple rule about simple rules still applies :-)   Back to my previous approach, then: Use point and click to select the first note with the wrong octave, change it, and re-run lilypond.  Or write octave checks. In relative mode, it

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:03 PM The octave of notes may also be checked with the `\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command. `CONTROLPITCH' is specified in absolute mode. This checks that the interval between the previous note and the `CONTROLPITCH' is within a fourth

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:03 PM The octave of notes may also be checked with the `\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command. `CONTROLPITCH' is specified in absolute mode. This checks that the interval between the previous

Cheat Sheet

2011-11-08 Thread Tim Roberts
As I do more and more LilyPond data entry, I find the skill set development to be interesting. I've become pretty quick at data entry now, including dynamics and articulation marks. I've become pretty good at tweaking the output to get the effects I want. The skill that is NOT developing,

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-08 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/8/11 1:32 PM, Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote: As I do more and more LilyPond data entry, I find the skill set development to be interesting. I've become pretty quick at data entry now, including dynamics and articulation marks. I've become pretty good at

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-16 Thread Patrick Horgan
On 09/12/2011 04:19 PM, Nick Payne wrote: ... elision by patrick... I can't print it from Adobe Reader on Ubuntu either. I also opened it in the default PDF document viewer that comes with Ubuntu (Evince), and in that, most of the text just displays as blocks of various sizes and shades - see

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-15 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.comwrote: Attached you can find the PDF version of this cheat sheet: http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/~reinhold/temp/2011-08-24_LilyPond_CheatSheet_Basic.pdf Thanks, Reinhold! I, also, was unable to print the cheat sheet

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-13 Thread Damian leGassick
On 13 Sep 2011, at 00:19, Nick Payne wrote: On 13/09/11 04:55, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Am Montag, 12. September 2011, 19:21:02 schrieb Helge Kruse: But when I try to send the PDF to my printer I get the messages Das Dokument konnte nicht gedruckt werden. (The document could be

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-13 Thread Robert Schmaus
If nothing else works, there is this (for command-line buffs possibly dissatisfactory) option of online conversion at, e.g., http://docupub.com/pdfconvert/ This worked for me, anyway. Nice work, Reinhold, and thanks for sharing! On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:34 AM, Damian leGassick

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-13 Thread Alberto Simões
the basic LilyPond syntax available compressed on one single sheet. I have created such a cheat sheet that displays the basic lilypond syntax and usage (without any tweaks and overrides) on one single page, while also being visually appealing. The cheat sheet is meant to be a quick summary of the things

Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Dear all, Sometimes it can be very useful -- in particular for new and not so experienced users -- to have the basic LilyPond syntax available compressed on one single sheet. I have created such a cheat sheet that displays the basic lilypond syntax and usage (without any tweaks and overrides

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 14:39, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: Attached you can find the PDF version of this cheat sheet:     http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/~reinhold/temp/2011-08-24_LilyPond_CheatSheet_Basic.pdf Looks very nice! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes: Dear all, Sometimes it can be very useful -- in particular for new and not so experienced users -- to have the basic LilyPond syntax available compressed on one single sheet. I have created such a cheat sheet that displays the basic lilypond

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
have created such a cheat sheet that displays the basic lilypond syntax and usage (without any tweaks and overrides) on one single page, while also being visually appealing. How does it relate/compare to appendix B in the notation manual? Anything you might consider worth adding

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Helge Kruse
Am 12.09.2011 14:39, schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: Dear all, Sometimes it can be very useful -- in particular for new and not so experienced users -- to have the basic LilyPond syntax available compressed on one single sheet. I have created such a cheat sheet that displays the basic lilypond

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet Am 12.09.2011 14:39, schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: Dear all, Sometimes it can be very useful -- in particular

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Michael Ellis
compressed on one single sheet. I have created such a cheat sheet that displays the basic lilypond syntax and usage (without any tweaks and overrides) on one single page, while also being visually appealing. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Stan Sanderson
On Sep 12, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet Am 12.09.2011 14:39, schrieb Reinhold

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Montag, 12. September 2011, 19:21:02 schrieb Helge Kruse: But when I try to send the PDF to my printer I get the messages Das Dokument konnte nicht gedruckt werden. (The document could be printed.) Keine zum Drucken ausgewählte Seiten vorhanden. (There are no pages

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Nick Payne
On 13/09/11 04:55, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Am Montag, 12. September 2011, 19:21:02 schrieb Helge Kruse: But when I try to send the PDF to my printer I get the messages Das Dokument konnte nicht gedruckt werden. (The document could be printed.) Keine zum Drucken ausgewählte

Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet

2011-09-12 Thread Helge Kruse
Am 12.09.2011 20:55, schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: No, printing is not disallowed. It is probably some incompatibility with Acrobat Reader. I can print it just fine from okular. Do you consider to make it Adobe compatible? Regards, Helge ___