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On 01/11/2013 12:44 AM, Urs Liska wrote:
I doubt very much that they care about you showing how to re-implement
these few bars in a notation
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On 01/13/2013 12:09 AM, Antonio Gervasoni wrote:
However, I'm not a lawyer so I'm sure if this would work.
Well, there are surely organizations out there (Creative Commons, Software
Freedom Conservancy, ...) who can advise.
That said, as long as you secure the copyright holders' permission
2013/1/13 Antonio Gervasoni agervas...@gmail.com:
Again, copyrights are good (I'm an author so I am of course pro-copyrights),
Unless you are a boss of a greedy company that makes money by
intimidating people using copyright, you can be an author and be
against copyright, or at least question
Frescobaldi as a GUI.
So it's just a blank page? Isn't there some error mesage?
Antonio
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writing it in
LaTeX, as Urs suggested, and will send it to him so that it can be included
in his project.
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Antonio Gervasoni agervas...@gmail.com writes:
Hey guys!
Sorry for not participating in the discussion about the copyrighted material
in Urs tutorial. I'm finishing the music for a film and I have little time
to read posts and make comments. ;-)
I agree with Joseph's idea:
Well, here's
On 01/11/2013 12:44 AM, Urs Liska wrote:
Bottom line: They didn't make very explicit statements, but they probably don't
really care about the case. From a pragmatical perspective this comes quite
close to 'fair use' (although it probably isn't).
Well, I am not a lawyer, but my impression is
On 10 Jan 2013, at 12:16 , Urs Liska wrote:
..
This morning I created a github account,
What's your user name? I'd like to add you.
To start with, I also created a github account: wimvd00, please add me
in for this project also.
..
Regards,
Wim.
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Can someone summarize the complaint/situation please? Thank you!
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From: Joseph Rushton Wakeling [mailto:joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:43 AM
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Subject: Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?
On 01/11/2013 12:44 AM, Urs Liska wrote:
I doubt very much
On 01/11/2013 07:52 PM, Urs Liska wrote:
I think it boils down to:
- can a GNU project link to (or promote in any other way) non-free
documentation?
- can I license a tutorial as free if it contains copyrighted material
(considered I got explicit permission to display the example on my web site
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes:
I think it boils down to:
- can a GNU project link to (or promote in any other way) non-free
documentation?
Not as much can but rather should, and the answer to that is no.
- can I license a tutorial as free if it contains copyrighted material
On 01/11/2013 10:10 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
Not as much can but rather should, and the answer to that is no.
Should needs to be tempered by a measure of common sense about whether doing
so serves the goals of the GNU project. Since the goal of a tutorial as
described here would be to make
(i cannot resist my lilypond addiction...)
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:
But I probably won't touch [online tutorial] until I reformat it as a PDF
version. There
had been some valuable comments on this list right after the first 'release'
of the
Hello Urs,
Am 09.01.2013 um 17:31 schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 09.01.2013 13:48, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
Am 09.01.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
I really would like to discuss this stuff with other ponders - but this
list should'nt be spoiled with
Am 10.01.2013 09:03, schrieb Janek Warcho?:
(i cannot resist my lilypond addiction...)
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:
But I probably won't touch [online tutorial] until I reformat it as a PDF
version. There
had been some valuable comments on this list
Great!
I would like to join in and I am going to host my lib/framework on github too
with the option and goal of integration with openLilyLib and/or later lilypond.
This morning I created a github account, so I am not familiar with its services
(beside the usage of GIT). What are you missing
Am 10.01.2013 11:25, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
Great!
I would like to join in and I am going to host my lib/framework on
github too with the option and goal of integration with openLilyLib
and/or later lilypond.
That's great too!
This morning I created a github account,
What's your user
Am 10.01.2013 09:33, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
Hello Urs,
Am 09.01.2013 um 17:31 schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 09.01.2013 13:48, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
Am 09.01.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
I really would like to discuss this stuff with other
So, tomorrow I will create a google group and look at the options of a
google code site.
I am a bit in a hurry - my kids are waiting ;)
Cheers, Jan-Peter
Am 10.01.2013 12:30, schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 10.01.2013 09:33, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
Hello Urs,
Am 09.01.2013 um 17:31 schrieb Urs
which is still in
progress.
Antonio
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Am 10.01.2013 21:15, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling:
On 01/10/2013 12:09 AM, Urs Liska wrote:
It was already discussed on this list: It was a silly idea to use
copyrighted
material at all for this tutorial. It was just something I was
working on at
that time, and I didn't really think about
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:43:42AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote:
* Maintain the library's documentation and the tutorials (starting
with Antonio's proposed text on orchestral scores and hopefully with
a conversion of my existing tutorial) as a set of LaTeX documents.
* I think there is no
Am 10.01.2013 22:26, schrieb Graham Percival:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:43:42AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote:
* Maintain the library's documentation and the tutorials (starting
with Antonio's proposed text on orchestral scores and hopefully with
a conversion of my existing tutorial) as a
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes:
Am 10.01.2013 22:26, schrieb Graham Percival:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:43:42AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote:
* Maintain the library's documentation and the tutorials (starting
with Antonio's proposed text on orchestral scores and hopefully with
a
Am 10.01.2013 22:37, schrieb David Kastrup:
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes:
...
Do you think that's a realistic option?
Would lilypond documentation be 'open' enough to incorporate material
that might not be too tailored to the given structure or style?
Various parts of LilyPond's
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes:
Am 10.01.2013 22:37, schrieb David Kastrup:
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes:
...
Do you think that's a realistic option?
Would lilypond documentation be 'open' enough to incorporate material
that might not be too tailored to the given structure or
Am 10.01.2013 22:56, schrieb David Kastrup:
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes:
...
So what would be needed from our part (just started to skim through
the Texinfo manual)?
If we would write the sources for our tutorials as Texinfo documents
we could then suggest to add any of them to Lily
On 01/10/2013 10:24 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
Unless you are planning this as a protest, I doubt that
deliberately setting out to infringe on copyright is a great
strategy. Are you really equipped to deal with a lawsuit from
music publishers -- especially since there's now a public record
of
On 01/10/2013 10:19 PM, Urs Liska wrote:
But there had been quite some discussion here whethere lilypond.org could link
to such a tutorial or not, and I tend to agree that an Open Source project
should have Open Documentation.
I agree, but I also think there's a difference between official
Am 10.01.2013 23:19, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling:
...
If you truly want to spend a few hours writing letters to
publishers, I would be interested to hear the results.
Happy to do so. If Urs can get permission for his bars of Schoenberg
from UE, I don't see that it will be a problem for
Am 10.01.2013 23:33, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling:
On 01/10/2013 10:19 PM, Urs Liska wrote:
But there had been quite some discussion here whethere lilypond.org
could link
to such a tutorial or not, and I tend to agree that an Open Source
project
should have Open Documentation.
I agree,
Am 11.01.2013 01:20, schrieb Urs Liska:
...
Maybe you're right. Today I realized that I really only have to
replace the
image, without updating a single word ...
Done :-)
Sorry, forgot to post where it is:
Am 09.01.2013 14:50, schrieb Francisco Vila:
2013/1/8 Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de:
You can have a look at
http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks.html
if you want.
Urs:
in
On 01/11/2013 01:24 AM, Urs Liska wrote:
Sorry, forgot to post where it is:
http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks/part-1-entering-the-music.html
Thanks for that. :-)
One note -- there was something I was wondering about looking at your example,
and the
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Hello Urs, Antonio and list,
this is a great tutorial Urs. I will recommend it to people whom I gave
introductions and who want to step further.
I recently introduced one guy, with plain lilypond (no scheme, no
tricks) to produce some SATB-sheets.
As we can see in this thread, there are a lot
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Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
Hello Urs, Antonio and list,
this is a great tutorial Urs.
Thanks!
I will recommend it to people whom I gave introductions and who want
to step further.
I recently introduced one guy, with plain lilypond (no scheme, no
tricks) to produce some
Hello Urs,
Am 09.01.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
I really would like to discuss this stuff with other ponders - but this list
should'nt be spoiled with such discussions and scare new users with intimate
scheme-expressions ...
If we would
On 01/08/2013 09:35 PM, Urs Liska wrote:
During the development of a musical edition some others and me created the base
for a kind of LilyPond toolkit library. When the edition is finished we'll
change
that to be an open source project hosted on Github. This will consist of sets of
2013/1/8 Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de:
You can have a look at
http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks.html
if you want.
Urs:
in
http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks/12-the-first-voice.html
should it be
Am 09.01.2013 13:48, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
Hello Urs,
Am 09.01.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 09.01.2013 09:13, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:
I really would like to discuss this stuff with other ponders - but this list
should'nt be spoiled with such discussions and scare new users with
this discussion has
created ...
So do I!
Regards,
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of the example templates is called project work site. Maybe that
could work.
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Am 09.01.2013 20:58, schrieb Antonio Gervasoni:
Urs wrote:
Well, the risk may be that it is a case of immediate enthusiasm which
might fade away
when there aren't immediate results ;-)
Yes, I am aware of that! So I have already decided that I will definitely
document my approach to the
Am 09.01.2013 14:09, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling:
On 01/08/2013 09:35 PM, Urs Liska wrote:
During the development of a musical edition some others and me
created the base
for a kind of LilyPond toolkit library.
...
This sounds like it would be a very useful tool for lots of people,
and
El 09/01/2013 21:05, Antonio Gervasoni agervas...@gmail.com escribió:
Urs wrote:
From those options I'd prefer Google over Facebook. Not less scary, but
I'd consider Google more as a platform for actually _work_ together
(although this might be strictly emotional ...)
I couldn't think
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and ideas scattered
all over the net but nothing in the form of a Guide to Writing Orchestral
Scores with Lilypond. So, I had to figure out the way to do it, trying one
solution, then another, going back and forth until I came up to a solution
that worked for me.
Now, I'm almost done and I'm
score.
There is an orchestral template in the Learning Manual and ideas scattered
all over the net but nothing in the form of a Guide to Writing Orchestral
Scores with Lilypond. So, I had to figure out the way to do it, trying
one solution, then another, going back and forth until I came up
could on the long run result in a book. But of
course this is pure speculation ATM.]
So if you think that's a good idea don't hesitate to contact my (on or
off list).
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of course this is pure speculation ATM.]
So if you think that's a good idea don't hesitate to contact my (on
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