Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Mark, On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Mark Knoop wrote: > At 21:13 on 19 Aug 2016, David Kastrup wrote: > >Mark Knoop writes: > >> Hi Mats, > >> > >> How does the attached look to you? Note I have moved the > >> Keep_alive_together_engraver to the GrandStaff

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

At 12:01 on 22 Aug 2016, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >Hi Mark, > >> Yes, sorry, they require a version built with the 3rd patchset here > >Ah… > >> that's why I also attached the pdfs, >> so you can see the results without compiling. > >I was hoping to try it out on my real-world choral example,

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Hi Mark, Do your files require a version later than they claim (2.19.45)? I’m running 2.19.46, and I get >warning: cannot find property type-check for `keep-alive-group' > (backend-type?). perhaps a typing error? Thanks, Kieren. On Aug 21, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Mark Knoop

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

On 08/21/2016 06:26 PM, Mark Knoop wrote: I've just submitted an additional patch which I think addresses the uses raised by Mats, Kieren and Abraham. See attached ly and pdf files. Comments, particularly on usability, appreciated. Looks good! The possibility to group staves seems intuitive.

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

At 21:13 on 19 Aug 2016, David Kastrup wrote: >Mark Knoop writes: >> Hi Mats, >> >> How does the attached look to you? Note I have moved the >> Keep_alive_together_engraver to the GrandStaff level so that the vln >> I and vln II groups can work independently. The problem now is

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

On 08/19/2016 08:16 PM, Mark Knoop wrote: At 18:02 on 19 Aug 2016, Mats Bengtsson wrote: >I recently typeset a concerto grosso from the baroque period, where >the solo and tutti parts are identical during long sections and then >they differ for some bars, every here and there. When entering

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Mark Knoop writes: > At 18:02 on 19 Aug 2016, Mats Bengtsson wrote: >>I recently typeset a concerto grosso from the baroque period, where >>the solo and tutti parts are identical during long sections and then >>they differ for some bars, every here and there. When entering the

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

At 18:02 on 19 Aug 2016, Mats Bengtsson wrote: >I recently typeset a concerto grosso from the baroque period, where >the solo and tutti parts are identical during long sections and then >they differ for some bars, every here and there. When entering the >parts, I used tags to handle the

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Hi Mark, Thanks for the starting point… but I’m really not sure how to use your approach and mine simultaneously. I’ll get back to you when I get my head around it, and have something for you to consider. Thanks, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website:

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Am 18.08.2016 um 15:10 schrieb David Kastrup: Malte Meyn writes: Am 18.08.2016 um 14:16 schrieb Mark Knoop: Could you both take a look at this and see (a) if it helps, and (b) what else needs to be achieved. I didn’t read the whole thread but how to deal with

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Malte Meyn writes: > Am 18.08.2016 um 14:16 schrieb Mark Knoop: >> Could you both take a look at this and see (a) if it helps, and (b) >> what else needs to be achieved. > > I didn’t read the whole thread but how to deal with different clefs? > For example, in a choir a

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Am 18.08.2016 um 14:16 schrieb Mark Knoop: Could you both take a look at this and see (a) if it helps, and (b) what else needs to be achieved. I didn’t read the whole thread but how to deal with different clefs? For example, in a choir a tenor is notated with \clef "treble_8" but a

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

At 20:18 on 16 Aug 2016, Mark Knoop wrote: >At 12:13 on 16 Aug 2016, tisimst wrote: >>A great example (better and more likely to happen than mine)! Maybe >>you'll be able to check this item off you wish-list soon! > >Thanks both for those. I probably won't do anything on this for the >next

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Hi David (et al.), > (The last line of the thread made me chuckle and sigh.) =) Here’s a later incarnation of the same thread/topic: Still unresolved… sigh. But I have great hopes for Mark’s work on this! Best, Kieren.

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

On Tue 16 Aug 2016 at 15:00:05 (-0400), Kieren MacMillan wrote: > On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:50 PM, tisimst wrote: > > I'll just re-state my earlier use-case (in the devel- mailing list) for > > good measure that extends divisi staves. > > Yes. On a related note, see the

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

At 12:13 on 16 Aug 2016, tisimst wrote: >A great example (better and more likely to happen than mine)! Maybe >you'll be able to check this item off you wish-list soon! Thanks both for those. I probably won't do anything on this for the next couple of days, so feel free to add more thoughts if you

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

; A great example (better and more likely to happen than mine)! Maybe you'll be able to check this item off you wish-list soon! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Keep-alive-together-call-for-use-cases-tp193723p193728.h

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Hi Abraham, On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:50 PM, tisimst wrote: > I'll just re-state my earlier use-case (in the devel- mailing list) for good > measure that extends divisi staves. Yes. On a related note, see the thread I started a few years ago (still open, ultimately) on

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

e this could really be a coding nightmare, but could be a really helpful feature, too, for automatically splitting/combining frenched staves. Forgive me if I didn't explain that very well. Best, Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Keep-alive-together

Re: Keep alive together - call for use cases

Hi Mark, > I've been working on some patches to enable more flexible uses > for the Keep_alive_together_engraver. Thank you! > if I could ask users for any situations where they can imagine this > engraver helping, that currently don't work, or don't work easily. 1a. The "frenched score with

Keep alive together - call for use cases

I've been working on some patches to enable more flexible uses for the Keep_alive_together_engraver. Whilst I've achieved my particular use case, David K is (rightly) keen that any changes might also address (or at least not rule out) other potential improvements. (If you're interested in the