Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-22 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-01-18 23:32 GMT+01:00 Torsten Hämmerle : > Thomas Morley-2 wrote >> Meanwhile I think supporting negative string-distance is a bad idea, >> because too many detail-problems need adjustments. And using negative >> string-distance was not intended as I introduced it. I

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-22 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
I just jumped into that thread and will give my 2 cent: I know violine- and guitar- and bass-teachers that have a large mirror in the teaching room for the leftys. I have nothing against special coding if developers find it worth the time. But a mirror is a cheap, fast and easy solution.

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Thomas Morley-2 wrote > Meanwhile I think supporting negative string-distance is a bad idea, > because too many detail-problems need adjustments. And using negative > string-distance was not intended as I introduced it. I should have > always gone for (abs ...). But this could be corrected...

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-01-18 0:42 GMT+01:00 Karlin High : > A tiny flaw appeared while approaching 1200% magnification: the reversed > fretboard's upper corners don't quite meet squarely. Hi Karlin, many thanks spotting the problem! Cheers, Harm

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-01-18 17:11 GMT+01:00 Carl Sorensen : > > > On 1/18/18, 6:30 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: > > Malte Meyn writes: > > > Am 18.01.2018 um 14:09 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle: > >> Ah, yes, when in landscape mode, setting a negative

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread Karlin High
On 1/18/2018 10:11 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: I believe that we should have some sort of display on the left-hand diagram indicating it's a left-hand diagram. But I don't know what that should be. Perhaps a left-pointing arrow at the top or the side of the fretboard? If it's not text, it

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/18/18, 6:30 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: Malte Meyn writes: > Am 18.01.2018 um 14:09 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle: >> Ah, yes, when in landscape mode, setting a negative string-distance makes the >> whole diagram flip below the

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread David Kastrup
Malte Meyn writes: > Am 18.01.2018 um 14:09 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle: >> Ah, yes, when in landscape mode, setting a negative string-distance makes the >> whole diagram flip below the baseline. >> >> Oh dear, another effect (in general): >> capo numbers and other objects

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 18.01.2018 um 14:09 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle: Ah, yes, when in landscape mode, setting a negative string-distance makes the whole diagram flip below the baseline. Oh dear, another effect (in general): capo numbers and other objects that should be placed in the margin of the diagram. When

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Ah, yes, when in landscape mode, setting a negative string-distance makes the whole diagram flip below the baseline. Oh dear, another effect (in general): capo numbers and other objects that should be placed in the margin of the diagram. When setting a negative string-distance, they flip inside

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 17.01.2018 um 22:59 schrieb Thomas Morley: 2018-01-17 22:36 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup : Thomas Morley writes: Should we document it as is or introduce a details.subproperty setting string-distance negative? Left-handed diagrams are peculiar enough

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
I've now created a new issue, encouraged by DAK's assent: #5264 Left-handed fret-diagram nut alignment @Harm: If you're busy, I could well take over this task. I'm just getting acquainted with the git/issue/review process, so such simple

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-18 Thread David Kastrup
Torsten Hämmerle writes: > Indeed, Karlin, > > you are perfectly right - thanks for the observation! > This is definitely not a Windows problem, it's an unwanted side effect of > using negative string distances: > The total width (5 times the string distance on a 6

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Indeed, Karlin, you are perfectly right - thanks for the observation! This is definitely not a Windows problem, it's an unwanted side effect of using negative string distances: The total width (5 times the string distance on a 6 string instrument) has to be increased by the half the line

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread Karlin High
On 1/17/2018 3:59 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: For now I opened https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5263/ so it gets not forgotten. I've currently not the time to do it, might be better in a few weeks. I'm enjoying this discussion. I tried Torsten Hämmerle's example, copied-and-pasted

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-01-17 22:36 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup : > Thomas Morley writes: >> Should we document it as is or introduce a details.subproperty setting >> string-distance negative? > > Left-handed diagrams are peculiar enough that if there is a reasonably > simple

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2018-01-17 19:08 GMT+01:00 Torsten Hämmerle : >> Hi all, >> >> In the more recent developer versions, threre's a surprisingly simple way to >> reverse the order of strings: >> just set the string-distance to #-1. ;) > >

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Thomas Morley-2 wrote > commit 3ea80e17452cb1e99aa4b7ff77b0ae2f5293b50d > Author: Thomas Morley > thomasmorley65@ > > Date: Sat Dec 31 12:33:24 2016 + > > Let the distance of strings and frets in fret-diagrams be settable > > Issue 5025 That's funny, indeed, Thanks for the

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-01-17 19:08 GMT+01:00 Torsten Hämmerle : > Hi all, > > In the more recent developer versions, threre's a surprisingly simple way to > reverse the order of strings: > just set the string-distance to #-1. ;) Well, ... commit 3ea80e17452cb1e99aa4b7ff77b0ae2f5293b50d

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Ooops, in the image, the #-2 should be a #-1, of course, because #-2 would have doubled the string distance... Sorry, Torsten -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Hi all, In the more recent developer versions, threre's a surprisingly simple way to reverse the order of strings: just set the string-distance to #-1. ;) This doesn't work in 2.18.2, though. \version "2.19.80" \include "predefined-guitar-fretboards.ly" << \new FretBoards { \chordmode {

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread francisperea
Hi Carl, I may not be an expert, I've only been playing the guitar for less than a year, but in a couple of methods I've used to learn string 1 is the closest to the floor, the thinnest, the highest pitch, be it right or left-handed. In the opposite the topmost is the thickest one, string 6, the

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/17/18, 9:47 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: Carl Sorensen writes: > On 1/16/18, 11:08 PM, "francisperea" wrote: > > Interestingly enough, if I understand it right, string 1 is topmost for both >

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: > On 1/16/18, 11:08 PM, "francisperea" wrote: > > Interestingly enough, if I understand it right, string 1 is topmost for > both > left-handed and right-handed guitars. So it seems to me that >

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/16/18, 11:08 PM, "francisperea" wrote: In fact string 1 is in all cases the bottommost string, the thinnest one. The topmost is the thickness one and is referenced as string 6 or string 4 depending on the instrument. How do you define

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-17 Thread francisperea
Hi Thomas, I've had some time to test your solution and it's also great for me. All I have to do is include your code snippet at the beginning of my files and it works great! Thanks once again for your time and knowledge. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-16 Thread francisperea
In fact string 1 is in all cases the bottommost string, the thinnest one. The topmost is the thickness one and is referenced as string 6 or string 4 depending on the instrument. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-16 Thread francisperea
looking for, a mirrored version of the fretboard, just as it is in left-handed intruents, be they guitar, ukulele or bass. If you could fix it I’d be willing to test it for sure. Carl Sorensen-3 wrote > I assume (without experience) that a left-handed fretboard is just > mirrored

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
t; > Hi all, > > Just a simple question, does anybody know if there is any way to create > left-handed fretboard diagrams for guitar and/or ukulele? > > There is not a simple way at present, but it would be much easier to add a simple way than to rewr

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-01-17 1:15 GMT+01:00 Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu>: > Francis, > > On 1/16/18, 2:32 PM, "francisperea" <fran...@francisperea.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Just a simple question, does anybody know if there is any way to create >

Re: Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
Francis, On 1/16/18, 2:32 PM, "francisperea" <fran...@francisperea.org> wrote: Hi all, Just a simple question, does anybody know if there is any way to create left-handed fretboard diagrams for guitar and/or ukulele? There is not a simple way at present, but

Left-handed fretboard?

2018-01-16 Thread francisperea
Hi all, Just a simple question, does anybody know if there is any way to create left-handed fretboard diagrams for guitar and/or ukulele? With FretBoard.fret-diagram-details.orientation I get normal or landscape right-handed fret diagrams. I'm thinking in totally rewriting the predefined