Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

On 06/11/2021 14:06, Kevin Cole wrote: I click Learning Manual. Still good. https remains. I am now at https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/learning/index#top I click the search bar at the bottom of the green sidebar table of contents... And get a pop-up in red text: "This form is not

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

> Am 06.11.2021 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Cole : > > I click Learning Manual. Still good. https remains. I am now at > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/learning/index#top > > I click the search bar at the bottom of the green sidebar table of > contents... And get a pop-up in red

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

I' m using Brave. Version 1.31.88 Chromium: 95.0.4638.69 (Official Build) (64-bit) I enter https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/ and am redirected to https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/web/index.html So far, so good. https: redirects to https: I click Manuals and again, am taken to

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

 So if any webpage uses SSL the internet would suddenly require noticably more power. This week I've seen a survey reporting that there are currently about 200,000,000 active websites, and that 100,000,000 are https.  It's reached 50%, and will continue growing. Paul

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

Valentin Petzel writes: > What browser are you using? Rejecting a page without SSL is somewhat > stupid. For many webpages the only benefit of SSL is that you have a > certificate that the content is correct. While certainly it would be > possible to do some man-in-the-middle attack tricking you

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

What browser are you using? Rejecting a page without SSL is somewhat stupid. For many webpages the only benefit of SSL is that you have a certificate that the content is correct. While certainly it would be possible to do some man-in-the-middle attack tricking you into having Lilypond into

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

I'm not sure about the current state, but Azure and AWS didn't use to block IPs from Iran. We had the same problem when Gitlab migrated from Azure to GCP. Note that non of them can do business with us, but serving a hosted website to us is not doing business. GCP seems to be the only one doing

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

> Thank for the notice, and sorry for the mess. I didn't realize GCP > doesn't serve to Iran. Do the other large US providers (Azure, AWS) > serve to Iran, or are they also blocked? I believe they will also be blocked. There is a list of (six I think) countries that businesses based in the US are

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 8:07 PM David Kastrup wrote: > > "Omid Mo'menzadeh" writes: > > > Of course I do. What I wanted to make sure was that the maintainers and the > > community know this, and are OK with that. LilyPond is a GNU project after > > all, and I don't think this is a GNU policy at

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

Thanks for the clarification. I personally think this is something we might want to consider if we have a major update or migration on the website in the future. Thanks, Omid Momenzadeh On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 10:37 PM David Kastrup wrote: > "Omid Mo'menzadeh" writes: > > > Of course I do.

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

> On 2 Nov 2021, at 21:08, Kevin Cole wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 3:55 PM Hans Aikema wrote: > >> Refering to the search box that IS already using https when you opted to >> browse the website using https? >> I consider it perfectly fine that the website offers an http search option

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 3:55 PM Hans Aikema wrote: > Refering to the search box that IS already using https when you opted to > browse the website using https? > I consider it perfectly fine that the website offers an http search option > when browsing the site with http, considering that it

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

> On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:48, Kevin Cole wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 3:33 PM Hans Aikema wrote: >> >> On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:27, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: >> >> On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, >> ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 3:33 PM Hans Aikema wrote: > > On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:27, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, > ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that the content on > the web site and the interaction with it is of

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

Ah! Cool. On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 12:32 PM Hans Aikema wrote: > > > > On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:27, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, > ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that the content on > the web site and the

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

> On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:27, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, > ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that the content on > the web site and the interaction with it is of a sensitive nature, but > still... > > Ken

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that the content on the web site and the interaction with it is of a sensitive nature, but still... Ken Wolcott On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 12:07 PM David Kastrup wrote: > > "Omid

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

"Omid Mo'menzadeh" writes: > Of course I do. What I wanted to make sure was that the maintainers and the > community know this, and are OK with that. LilyPond is a GNU project after > all, and I don't think this is a GNU policy at all, since no other GNU > project that I know of does this. Web

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

CLAVERIE wrote: > Omid, > > You should consider using a VPN, I think. > > Good luck > > Rémy > > > > > > > > > > > Message du 02/11/21 16:14 > > De : "Omid Mo'menzadeh" > > A : "Phil Holmes" > > Co

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

Omid, You should consider using a VPN, I think. Good luck Rémy         > Message du 02/11/21 16:14 > De : "Omid Mo'menzadeh" > A : "Phil Holmes" > Copie à : "lilypond-user" > Objet : Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

Well, that's good news, since it would make fixing the problem a lot easier. Here is my output from "ping lilypond.org", which definitely is trying to get something from Google: PING lilypond.org (35.206.114.173) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 173.114.206.35.bc.googleusercontent.com

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

Yes. This is Google blocking the IP, not a firewall on the way. On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:00 PM Jun Tamura wrote: > > > 2021/11/02 22:59、Jun Tamura のメール: > > > > 2021/11/02 22:40、Phil Holmes のメール: > > On 02/11/2021 12:53, Kevin Cole wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

> 2021/11/02 22:40、Phil Holmes のメール: > > On 02/11/2021 12:53, Kevin Cole wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh > > wrote: >> Hello all. >> I'm not sure if this is the right list to post this, but I'll give it a shot >> here, and see

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

> 2021/11/02 22:59、Jun Tamura のメール: > > > >> 2021/11/02 22:40、Phil Holmes > >のメール: >> >> On 02/11/2021 12:53, Kevin Cole wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh >> > wrote: >>> Hello all. >>> I'm not sure

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

On 02/11/2021 12:53, Kevin Cole wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh wrote: Hello all. I'm not sure if this is the right list to post this, but I'll give it a shot here, and see where I should report this. The problem seems to be the website's hosting,

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 9:16 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh wrote: > This is what I see when I open the website with an IP from Iran. We have > the same problem with other websites hosted on GCE and similar products. > Google's search engine, Gmail, etc. are fine. > Ouch. My mistake. And, like you, I'm

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh wrote: > Hello all. > I'm not sure if this is the right list to post this, but I'll give it a > shot here, and see where I should report this. > The problem seems to be the website's hosting, which appears to be > provided by Google, which blocks

LilyPond website is not available in some countries

Hello all. I'm not sure if this is the right list to post this, but I'll give it a shot here, and see where I should report this. The problem seems to be the website's hosting, which appears to be provided by Google, which blocks access from certain countries in accordance with US law (with the