Re: Piano centered dynamics - dealing with bar collisions

2016-01-29 Thread tisimst
Przemyslaw, On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Przemyslaw Pawelczyk [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n186599...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > Hi! > > There is a piano centered dynamics template that was present in > Lilypond Learning Manual for v2.14, but is not available in recent

Re: Piano centered dynamics - dealing with bar collisions

2016-01-29 Thread Przemyslaw Pawelczyk
tra-spacing-width = #'(-0.2 . 0.2) > > Here is the PDF with both overrides: > http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-centered-dynamics/piano-centered-dynamics-workaround.pdf Here is the PDF w/o overrides: http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-centered-dynamics/piano-centered-dynamics.pdf

Re: Piano centered dynamics - dealing with bar collisions

2016-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Sat 30 Jan 2016 at 00:00:43 (+0100), Przemyslaw Pawelczyk wrote: > I've noticed another thing just now, after zooming in. > Regardless of the overrides, first half note in the lower staff > actually does not line up with quater note in the upper staff. Isn't that because a minim is wider then

Re: Piano centered dynamics - dealing with bar collisions

2016-01-29 Thread Przemyslaw Pawelczyk
Hi, Abraham! On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Abraham Lee <tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Przemyslaw Pawelczyk [via Lilypond] < > ml-node+s1069038n186599...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: >> There is a piano centered dynamics template that wa

Piano centered dynamics - dealing with bar collisions

2016-01-28 Thread Przemyslaw Pawelczyk
Hi! There is a piano centered dynamics template that was present in Lilypond Learning Manual for v2.14, but is not available in recent versions: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/piano-templates If we take it (w/o midi part, which is not needed here) and add s1

Re: Piano centered dynamics

2015-05-18 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi, See also: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=357 Cheers, Pierre 2015-05-17 20:30 GMT+02:00 Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de: On 05/17/2015 08:04 PM, Marco wrote: How is possible to center perfectly dynamics symbols between the staves of a piano staff? Hi Marco, see

Piano centered dynamics

2015-05-17 Thread Marco
How is possible to center perfectly dynamics symbols between the staves of a piano staff? Thank you in advance to all for the your answers. Best regards Marco ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Piano centered dynamics

2015-05-17 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 05/17/2015 08:04 PM, Marco wrote: How is possible to center perfectly dynamics symbols between the staves of a piano staff? Hi Marco, see https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1127 :-( (And shame on me for withdrawing my bounty on that one...) Best, Alexander

Re: normal vs. piano-centered dynamics

2010-04-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 6 April 2010 09:41, Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl wrote: I do have a question: Why is the horizontal positioning different when using dynamics attached to notes like { c4\mf } and dynamics that are entered in a Dynamics context ? The latter are positioned more to the left. I

normal vs. piano-centered dynamics

2010-04-06 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, I just discovered that with the current versions of Lilypond it is now much easier to get piano-centered-dynamics than in older versions thanks to a Dynamics context. Apparently I had missed the introduction of this nice feature, but a late thanks anyway ! I do have a question: Why

Re: Piano /centered/ dynamics

2009-12-15 Thread Joe Neeman
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 11:58 +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: is it possible to have the Dynamics (the \p in the example below) in a layout like the Piano centered dynamics really centered between

Re: Piano /centered/ dynamics

2009-11-30 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: is it possible to have the Dynamics (the \p in the example below) in a layout like the Piano centered dynamics really centered between the staves (i.e., the staff lines), instead of centered between

Re: Piano /centered/ dynamics

2009-11-30 Thread Alexander Kobel
Valentin Villenave wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: is it possible to have the Dynamics (the \p in the example below) in a layout like the Piano centered dynamics really centered between the staves (i.e., the staff lines), instead

Piano /centered/ dynamics

2009-11-28 Thread Alexander Kobel
Hi all, is it possible to have the Dynamics (the \p in the example below) in a layout like the Piano centered dynamics really centered between the staves (i.e., the staff lines), instead of centered between the skylines of all elements in the staves? I have a score where slurs, bars

Re: Piano /centered/ dynamics

2009-11-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Alexander, is it possible to have the Dynamics (the \p in the example below) in a layout like the Piano centered dynamics really centered between the staves (i.e., the staff lines), instead of centered between the skylines of all elements in the staves? +1 I offered to $pon

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-12-10 Thread peter0
I'll take that as No we don't look after it any more -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/piano-centered-dynamics-tp20763875p20946301.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user

piano centered dynamics

2008-11-30 Thread peter0
Hi guys, What about piano centered dynamics? Has there been any development in the past months about this imho very essential feature of lilypond? Is there already a totally new version from scratch planned? What's the best workaround for now to produce a decent piano score (e.g. really

piano centered dynamics

2008-09-23 Thread James E. Bailey
I know that it's an old snippet, but for those of us who don't really understand the finer workings of it, can the snippet in the documentation be updated to use the New_dynamic_engraver and Dynamic_align_engraver as suggested by neil? ___

piano centered dynamics and dynamic text spanner override

2008-08-30 Thread James E. Bailey
Wow, I thought I was going crazy. If I use the template for piano centered dynamics, dynamic text overrides don't work unless they're attached to the proper voice context. Snippet follows. \version 2.11.57 \layout { \context { \type Engraver_group \name Dynamics \alias

Re: solved: Staff spacing problem with piano centered dynamics

2008-07-17 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Jim, 2008/7/17 jimmy2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I still wish I knew how to force staves of a particular system to be closer. I tried various commands which seemed like they should work, but with no effect. Have a look at the headword for NR 1.8 `Text'

Re: solved: Staff spacing problem with piano centered dynamics

2008-07-17 Thread Neil Puttock
2008/7/17 Jim Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Neil, thanks for the info! I had plowed through section 4.5.3 previously, but the explicit example you mentioned looks like it will be more helpful--Jim Unfortunately, that section is undermined by the formatting of the examples, since every system

Staff spacing problem with piano centered dynamics

2008-07-14 Thread jimmy2
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Re: Staff spacing problem with piano centered dynamics

2008-07-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
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Re: Staff spacing problem with piano centered dynamics

2008-07-14 Thread Jim Cline
on this unwanted extra vertical space. I will greatly appreciate any advice! --Jim -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Staff-spacing-problem-with-piano-centered-dynamics-tp18454033p18454033.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-05 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/6/4 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is a known problem that has not made it into the bug tracker, as far as I can see. Now it has: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=631 Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/6/4 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, since no one is going to answer this I guess I'll answer it myself: RTFM (the Learning Manual, that is) :D I have encountered similar problems with dynamics colliding with cross-staff barlines, but I never really found a way to get rid of this

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-04 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Well, it's not very elegant but it works o.k. I just override the dynamics positioning each time I need it. I just experimented to find the right values. To make life easier I define the override as a variable: nuj = \once \override DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'(+1.0 . -0.0) Then I just

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-04 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 04.06.2008 um 13:42 schrieb Jonathan Kulp: Well, it's not very elegant but it works o.k. I just override the dynamics positioning each time I need it. I just experimented to find the right values. To make life easier I define the override as a variable: nuj = \once \override

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
This is a known problem that has not made it into the bug tracker, as far as I can see. See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2007-04/msg00136.html Also, as you can see later in the same thread, it doesn't help to add the bar engraver to the context. Here comes a somewhat

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-03 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Well, since no one is going to answer this I guess I'll answer it myself: RTFM (the Learning Manual, that is) :D (I figured it out...) Jon Jonathan Kulp wrote: Thanks Graham. I went and got this template and applied it to a piano piece of mine. The centering of dynamics is lovely, but I

piano centered dynamics

2008-06-02 Thread James E. Bailey
I'm really tring here, there should be online classes to figure this out, it just doesn't make sense to me. If anyone would be willing to help, I've posted a sample of what the music looks like, and it can be seen here. Really, all I would like is to have the dynamics centered between the

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/6/2 James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Really, all I would like is to have the dynamics centered between the two piano staves. Try: \layout { \context { \type Engraver_group \name Dynamics

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-02 Thread Neil Puttock
2008/6/2 Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try: \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(0 . 3) instead of (-1 . 1 ) It's ugly, but it (kind of) works. ...or use the template for 2.11, which is slightly different; it doesn't need the hackish extra-offset

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-02 Thread James E. Bailey
; it doesn't need the hackish extra-offset overrides. Regards, Neil Oooh, where does one find this elusive piano centered dynamics template for 2.11? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
centered dynamics template for 2.11? You look at the 2.11 docs, click on Snippet List (SL), then click on Templates. How is that hard to find? Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-02 Thread James E. Bailey
, where does one find this elusive piano centered dynamics template for 2.11? You look at the 2.11 docs, click on Snippet List (SL), then click on Templates. How is that hard to find? Cheers, - Graham Ah, thanks. I've never used those before. I'll add it to my mental list

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-06-02 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Thanks Graham. I went and got this template and applied it to a piano piece of mine. The centering of dynamics is lovely, but I also have a problem that many of the dynamics that are attached to a spacer at the beginning of a measure *collide* with the barline. Has anyone else had this

piano centered dynamics

2008-05-31 Thread James E. Bailey
I'm using the 2.11 branch of lilypond, and I notice that the forced- distance used in the piano centered dynamics isn't there (lilypond tells me, and there's no mention that I can see in the 2.11 documentation). It's in the 2.10 branch (lilypond doesn't tell me it's a typo and I see

piano centered dynamics

2008-05-31 Thread James E. Bailey
I think the forced-distance might be a bug, everything else in the align-interface between the two branches (2.10 and 2.11) are the same, just the user-settable forced-distance is missing :( ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-05-31 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi James, 2008/5/31 James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the forced-distance might be a bug, everything else in the align-interface between the two branches (2.10 and 2.11) are the same, just the user-settable forced-distance is missing :( AFAIK, the forced-distance property was a hack

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-05-31 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 31.05.2008 um 11:55 schrieb Neil Puttock: Hi James, 2008/5/31 James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the forced-distance might be a bug, everything else in the align-interface between the two branches (2.10 and 2.11) are the same, just the user-settable forced-distance is missing

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-05-31 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 31.05.2008 um 11:55 schrieb Neil Puttock: Hi James, 2008/5/31 James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the forced-distance might be a bug, everything else in the align-interface between the two branches (2.10 and 2.11) are the same, just the user-settable forced-distance is missing

Re: piano centered dynamics

2008-05-31 Thread Neil Puttock
2008/5/31 James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay, I'm reading up on this, but before I even begin, is there a way to work around needing dynamics in every system for this to work? 'Cause that's a deal-breaker right there for me. How about invisible dynamics at the beginning of any system

Re: Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template

2008-05-05 Thread Oscar van Eijk
, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template I noticed that sustain information was not getting generated in the midi file output when using the Piano Centered Dynamics template located on the lilypond website. I've tried the same template with 2.10.33

Re: Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template

2008-05-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
: Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template I noticed that sustain information was not getting generated in the midi file output when using the Piano Centered Dynamics template located on the lilypond website. I've tried the same template with 2.10.33 as well as 2.11.45

Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template

2008-05-02 Thread Anthony
I noticed that sustain information was not getting generated in the midi file output when using the Piano Centered Dynamics template located on the lilypond website. I've tried the same template with 2.10.33 as well as 2.11.45. This is the current template for the piano centered dynamics

RE: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Subject: Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again Hey Trevor, Dynamics placed between piano staves can collide with barlines. It makes no difference whether they are centered or not. Is there any way to apply the lyric trick \consists Bar_engraver \consists

Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter, I had tried this before, by adding these three lines to the Dynamics context and leaving the rest as in the original template. [...] It does not prevent collisions Interesting... well, it was worth a shot. =\ the Barlines do not become transparent where collisions occur.

Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter, Well, thanks for replying, but of course it didn't solve the problem. I know... sorry. for one who engraves only piano music, it is the harsh reality that the results of lilypond are not that pretty when one has the insane idea of centering dynamics... [n.b. Perhaps again

RE: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Kieren MacMillan wrote on 10 December 2007 14:28 However, it did give me a brainstorm that might be helpful: is there a way to wrap (by default) every dynamic in a white outline? That way, the font outline would mask out the barline immediately around the f (or whatever the

Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Trevor, Well, there is, although I didn't know it until I went looking! Yes, you've hit on exactly what I was hoping might be out there... =) For future reference (e.g., LSR?), I've modified your [lovely] example to show both outcomes. Best wishes, Kieren.

Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-09 Thread Graham Percival
user and I want to write piano centered dynamics without them colliding bar lines. I searched the help and this mailing list but I didn't find a consistent resolution. So, can anyone give the right code or a method how I have to do this? I don't know if it's relevant, but I have voices

Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-09 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter, Did I provide not enough information about the problem Actual (minimal) code showing the issue is almost always the best way to communicate your needs to the list. I don't know if it's relevant, but I have voices switching staffs in the piece I'm engraving. Might be --

Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-09 Thread peter0
. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Piano-Centered-Dynamics-and-bar-collision---again-tp13844142p14242039.html Sent from the Gnu

Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-09 Thread peter0
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RE: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
] [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of peter0 Sent: 09 December 2007 14:08 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again Hmm... No response on my previous message. Did I provide not enough information about

Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-09 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hey Trevor, Dynamics placed between piano staves can collide with barlines. It makes no difference whether they are centered or not. Is there any way to apply the lyric trick \consists Bar_engraver \consists Separating_line_group_engraver \override BarLine

Re: Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-12-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:10:42 -0800 (PST) peter0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As part of our big documentation update, we'll examine this template... but currently this probably won't happen until March or so. And even then, our answer might simply be to delete the example (if it's not

Piano Centered Dynamics and bar collision - again

2007-11-20 Thread peter0
Hi. I'm a relative new user and I want to write piano centered dynamics without them colliding bar lines. I searched the help and this mailing list but I didn't find a consistent resolution. So, can anyone give the right code or a method how I have to do this? I don't know if it's relevant

Re: piano centered dynamics

2007-01-10 Thread Mats Bengtsson
James Bailey wrote: Thanks, I made the offset 2.5 to match all of the others, but I still really don't understand all of the engravers and spanners this template modifies, which makes me kind of sad. Honestly, I don't think anybody understands exactly why the template looks as it does.

Re: piano centered dynamics

2007-01-09 Thread James Bailey
Thanks, I made the offset 2.5 to match all of the others, but I still really don't understand all of the engravers and spanners this template modifies, which makes me kind of sad. And, is it just me, or did you get the same kind of problem that I got? Should this be added to the manual, or

piano centered dynamics

2007-01-08 Thread James Bailey
I'm trying to get piano centered dynamics, and my cresc. is far too close to the bottom staff. I'm just modifying the existing template. My question is, which line of the code do I need to alter to change this? following is my offending code (stripped down as best as I could \version

Re: piano centered dynamics

2007-01-08 Thread Jay Anderson
Try adding this with the other extra-offsets: \override DynamicTextSpanner #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 1.75) Perhaps this can be added to the manual. -Jay Anderson ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Understanding Piano Centered Dynamics template

2006-05-28 Thread Tomas Valusek
Hello, as a piano teacher, I chose template D.2.4 Piano Centered Dynamics as my default template. Unfortunately, it contains many advanced commands, which I don't fully understand, and so it is quite difficult for me to modify it when its settings don't match my needs in a certain piece

putting piano centered dynamics into score

2006-01-31 Thread liang seng
Hi, I am using Lilypond 2.7.27 for Windows 98 and I have a problem putting a file which contains piano centered dynamics into a score. The contents of the file piano.ly are the same as the input file used to generate piano centered dynamics in the 2.7 documentation file. The file of the score

Re: putting piano centered dynamics into score

2006-01-31 Thread Gianluca D.
Alle 13:19, martedì 31 gennaio 2006, liang seng ha scritto: Hi, I am using Lilypond 2.7.27 for Windows 98 and I have a problem putting a file which contains piano centered dynamics into a score. The contents of the file piano.ly are the same as the input file used to generate piano centered

RE: Piano Centered Dynamics

2005-02-13 Thread Tim Hucker
Thanks for this - I've used it to sort out virtually everything. Regards Tim -Original Message- From: Matthijs Frankena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2005 10:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Piano Centered Dynamics Hello Tim, Take a look at the following (at Mutopia

Piano Centered Dynamics

2005-02-12 Thread Tim Hucker
I'm engraving a piece using Lilypond 2.4.2 under XP using the template in the 2.4 manual 3.3.4 Piano centered dynamics on p32. I would also like to align non-dynamic instructions (e.g. rallentando, a tempo, perdendosi) between the staves but cannot for the life of me work out if is it possible