Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-26 Thread Urs Liska
Am 26.06.2013 02:10, schrieb Hilary Snaden: On 24/06/13 03:20, Nick Payne wrote: On 24/06/13 09:58, Urs Liska wrote: Am 24.06.2013 00:32, schrieb Nick Payne: How about considering Gentium Plus once the bold and bold italic faces are available (at the moment Gentium Plus contains only regular

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-26 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am 26.06.2013 02:10, schrieb Hilary Snaden: On 24/06/13 03:20, Nick Payne wrote: On 24/06/13 09:58, Urs Liska wrote: Am 24.06.2013 00:32, schrieb Nick Payne: How about considering Gentium Plus once the bold and bold italic faces are available (at the

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/6/25 Joshua Krämer joshua.krae...@gmail.com: On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:11:41 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: This typeface style is known as Scotch. A high-quality, free Scotch type-family is Old Standard. [...] [...] Unfortunately, in my opinion it's too thin, so it would need to be

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-25 Thread Joshua Krämer
On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:11:41 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: This typeface style is known as Scotch. A high-quality, free Scotch type-family is Old Standard. [...] [...] Unfortunately, in my opinion it's too thin, so it would need to be modified - this would be a nice project, but i don't

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-25 Thread Hilary Snaden
On 24/06/13 03:20, Nick Payne wrote: On 24/06/13 09:58, Urs Liska wrote: Am 24.06.2013 00:32, schrieb Nick Payne: How about considering Gentium Plus once the bold and bold italic faces are available (at the moment Gentium Plus contains only regular and italic faces). It's released under the

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-23 Thread Urs Liska
Am 23.06.2013 23:14, schrieb Mark Polesky: Urs, I missed the big discussion earlier, but has anyone mentioned FreeSerif? Not that I recall ... http://www.fontspace.com/gnu-freefont/freeserif I'm getting some good results with lyrics. I particularly like that it has all 5 of the common

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-23 Thread Nick Payne
How about considering Gentium Plus once the bold and bold italic faces are available (at the moment Gentium Plus contains only regular and italic faces). It's released under the SIL open font license (http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiid=OFL) and contains virtually all

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-23 Thread Mark Polesky
Urs, I missed the big discussion earlier, but has anyone mentioned FreeSerif? http://www.fontspace.com/gnu-freefont/freeserif I'm getting some good results with lyrics.  I particularly like that it has all 5 of the common English ligatures 0xFB00 - 0xFB04 (ff fi fl ffi ffl).  Century Schoolbook

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-23 Thread Mark Polesky
Urs Liska wrote: http://www.fontspace.com/gnu-freefont/freeserif ... test sentence with ligatures: office flight raffle, final offer test sentence, spelled out completely: office flight raffle, final offer I just could only look at the samples on the page you linked, but it looks quite

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-23 Thread Urs Liska
Am 24.06.2013 00:32, schrieb Nick Payne: How about considering Gentium Plus once the bold and bold italic faces are available (at the moment Gentium Plus contains only regular and italic faces). It's released under the SIL open font license

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-23 Thread Nick Payne
On 24/06/13 09:58, Urs Liska wrote: Am 24.06.2013 00:32, schrieb Nick Payne: How about considering Gentium Plus once the bold and bold italic faces are available (at the moment Gentium Plus contains only regular and italic faces). It's released under the SIL open font license

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
This typeface style is known as Scotch. A high-quality, free Scotch type-family is Old Standard. [...] Thanks for letting us know. I've tried it (only on the screen, no time to visit print shop for a high quality print :( ); it is in fact very similar in shape to Century (except that it's

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/6/5 Joshua Krämer joshua.krae...@gmail.com: Hello list! On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:23:24 +0100, Werner LEMBERG has written: Besides a font with similar functionality as Minion, I would like to find a font which resembles the `classical' text font used about 100 years ago in Germany for

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-06-04 Thread Joshua Krämer
Hello list! On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:23:24 +0100, Werner LEMBERG has written: Besides a font with similar functionality as Minion, I would like to find a font which resembles the `classical' text font used about 100 years ago in Germany for virtually all vocal scores (see attachment). This

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
How does Fairplay look to you? http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Playfair+Display Thanks for the suggestion! Yes, the font looks nice, and it is quite compact. However, I'm not too happy with the italic shape which is a bit too ornamental for my taste (and contains too many very thin

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
4. http://arkandis.tuxfamily.org/adffonts.html What do you think about Tribun and Romande there? The condensed Tribun looks nice. I know Hirwen Harendal, author of this font, so in case you need something special, just tell me :-) Werner ___

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 09:43, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: 4. http://arkandis.tuxfamily.org/adffonts.html What do you think about Tribun and Romande there? The condensed Tribun looks nice. This is one of the fonts I intended to test more thoroughly. I know Hirwen Harendal, author of this font, so in

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 01/08/2013 12:23 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Am 07.01.2013 10:14, schrieb Urs Liska: Dear community, I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. Hi all, thank you for your diverse suggestions. [...] But I'd still be pleased by further suggestions. Hi

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 01/09/2013 10:01 AM, Alexander Kobel wrote: If you use your Google-fu, you'll find a wealth of discussion whether or not the CorelDRAW should be avoided by professional typesetters [...] Also, you can have a look at the following of the Scribus project's wiki pages:

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 10:01, schrieb Alexander Kobel: On 01/08/2013 12:23 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Am 07.01.2013 10:14, schrieb Urs Liska: Dear community, I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. Hi all, thank you for your diverse suggestions. [...] But I'd

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 17:18, schrieb Dave Crossland: Impallari's Libre Baskerville, perhaps? www.impallari.com While it looks very nice, judging from the samples on the web page this font is too wide also (no significant improvement) Thanks anyway Best Urs

Re: Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-09 Thread Shane Brandes
That bug if it still happening has been around since at least 2009. I saw one of my scores the other day with the faulty barlines with that date. I recommend using Okular it is in some ways preferable to even Acrobat reader. Shane On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Carlo Stemberger

Re: Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-09 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/1/9 Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net: That bug if it still happening has been around since at least 2009. I saw one of my scores the other day with the faulty barlines with that date. I recommend using Okular it is in some ways preferable to even Acrobat reader. In my experience, this

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 17:32, schrieb vern adams: Sounds like you need to look at raising funds to have a font made to perfectly for your needs. Not really. I already have a font that suits my (personal) needs perfectly. I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly Best Urs

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Impallari's Libre Baskerville, perhaps? www.impallari.com This is indeed a beautiful font! However, a condensed shape is missing, and this is what would be urgently needed for vocal scores and the like. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Sounds like you need to look at raising funds to have a font made to perfectly for your needs. Or a font like Pablo's Libre Baskerville customised to your needs. I can highly recommend this approach, it can be a great investment for your own product. Go for it! Indeed! I had similar ideas

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
One of the things to be clear about for yourself and the designer you work with is what the medium you want it to work in will be. For example is this mainly a font for printing on paper? Is it for the web too? Do you want it to work well in fine printing? Do you only care about laser

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
Precisely. It makes sense to fund a public resource. If you see something close to what you want Playfair for example, you could ask the designer to make a version with less contrast as Libre software and fund that work. He probably has a lower contrast version already. -e. On Jan 9, 2013, at

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Hello Eben! One of the things to be clear about for yourself and the designer you work with is what the medium you want it to work in will be. For example is this mainly a font for printing on paper? Yes. Is it for the web too? No. Do you want it to work well in fine printing? Do

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly That's what i mean. Free software needs funding too :) On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:47, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Precisely. It makes sense to fund a public resource. If you see something close to what you want

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Hello Eben! One of the things to be clear about for yourself and the designer you work with is what the medium you want it to work in will be. For example is this mainly a font for printing on paper? Yes. Is it for the web too? No. Beg to differ.

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Dave Crossland
Impallari's Libre Baskerville, perhaps? www.impallari.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread vern adams
Sounds like you need to look at raising funds to have a font made to perfectly for your needs. Or a font like Pablo's Libre Baskerville customised to your needs. I can highly recommend this approach, it can be a great investment for your own product. Go for it! -v On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:29,

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread vern adams
That's what i mean. Free software needs funding too :) On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:47, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 January 2013 12:07, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: The font should cover the most important languages used for `classical' vocal music, especially operas. This includes Italian, German, French, Czech (e.g. Dvořák), Russian (in Cyrillic), English, probably Hungarian (Bartók). Today

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Dave Crossland
The price depends on the details of the project; mainly the number of family styles, the character set, and the delivery schedule. Designing a single style latin-1 font in 2 weeks is relatively expensive ($3,000 minimum) versus a 10 style family with latin 1-2-3-4 in 2 months ($10,000 min)

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Vern, can you give a rough estimate about the financial frame? Yes i would generally echo what Dave and Eben have said said on costs; and note these would be minimum costs; The price depends on the details of the project; mainly the number of family styles, the character set, and the

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 19:11, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly That's what i mean. Free software needs funding too :) On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:47, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Precisely. It makes sense to fund a public resource. If you see

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 19:37, schrieb Dave Crossland: On 9 January 2013 12:07, Werner LEMBERGw...@gnu.org wrote: The font should cover the most important languages used for `classical' vocal music, especially operas. This includes Italian, German, French, Czech (e.g. Dvořák), Russian (in Cyrillic),

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: Am 09.01.2013 19:11, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm rather looking for a free alternative to be shared publicly That's what i mean. Free software needs funding too :) On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:47, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Precisely. It makes sense

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
The font should cover the most important languages used for `classical' vocal music, especially operas. This includes Italian, German, French, Czech (e.g. Dvořák), Russian (in Cyrillic), English, probably Hungarian (Bartók). Today it's common that the original language is typeset in

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
vern adams v...@newtypography.co.uk writes: On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:54, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: Vern, can you give a rough estimate about the financial frame? Yes i would generally echo what Dave and Eben have said said on costs; and note these would be minimum costs; To put

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread vern adams
On 9 Jan 2013, at 08:54, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: Vern, can you give a rough estimate about the financial frame? Yes i would generally echo what Dave and Eben have said said on costs; and note these would be minimum costs; The price depends on the details of the project; mainly

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Actually, I would rather like to have a font which exactly clones the old lyrics font. But this is probably me only. This points to one problem I see with this approach: If one wanted to create something new (or rework something existing) there would be _much_ discussion to do. And I

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
What's the difference between `fine' and `laser' printing? It is a question of the level of detail. If you are making a font for laser printers you have to avoid certain characteristics in shapes. The shapes have to be more gross or brutal to reproduce well. If you know you want something

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
There is a good chance that LilyPond can do decidedly better than it does now without the necessity of producing new fonts, by making better use of currently available free fonts. I'd rather see those venues explored first. Yes, certainly. But more importantly: _iff_ LilyPond and Feta are

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 20:30, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: Actually, I would rather like to have a font which exactly clones the old lyrics font. But this is probably me only. This points to one problem I see with this approach: If one wanted to create something new (or rework something existing) there

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: You will want someone who is sensitive to Cyrillic to Latin and who can manage the difficulties of the dense use of diacritics in Czech set which are significant. Is Polish relevant? Interestingly, no. There aren't any

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 21:25, schrieb Janek Warchoł: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: You will want someone who is sensitive to Cyrillic to Latin and who can manage the difficulties of the dense use of diacritics in Czech set which are significant. Is Polish relevant?

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 20:07, schrieb David Kastrup: At least with regard to chord names, the current situation is untenable. That does not necessarily mean that a new font needs to be developed. But one way or the other, the default look of LilyPond needs to be more consistent and less ugly. If one

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Is it for the web too? No. Beg to differ. Formatting for electronic display of music is one of the more important application areas for LilyPond. Beg to differ, too. A `web font' is essentially a font suitable for a computer display with a (quite) low resolution. In particular, such a

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Hello Janek! ?! How are we supposed to typeset Frédéric Chopin's songs written to polish lyrics, then? Or Moniuszko's operas? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Moniuszko#Operas] As a Pole i feel seriously discriminated - after all, isn't LilyPond supposed to provide music

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 22:00, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm a pianist, and I know Chopin very well and like him a lot, but I have *never* heard or played a song written by him. I have two complete recordings of Chopin's songs, one of them published by the Deutsche Grammophon. So they are existent.

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.01.2013 22:05, schrieb Urs Liska: Am 09.01.2013 22:00, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm a pianist, and I know Chopin very well and like him a lot, but I have *never* heard or played a song written by him. I have two complete recordings of Chopin's songs, one of them published by the Deutsche

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Is it for the web too? No. Beg to differ. Formatting for electronic display of music is one of the more important application areas for LilyPond. Beg to differ, too. A `web font' is essentially a font suitable for a computer display with a (quite)

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Hello Janek! ?! How are we supposed to typeset Frédéric Chopin's songs written to polish lyrics, then? Or Moniuszko's operas? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Moniuszko#Operas] As a Pole i feel seriously discriminated - after all, isn't

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: Of course it is ambitious, but I'd agree that conceptually LilyPond should be able to typeset in any language. Right-to-left languages are distinctly tricky. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Wow. This is a large project in terms of glyph coverage then. :-) It can evolve, starting with Latin-1 Latin-2, for example. That makes sense. And Latin-2 covers Polish also... Urs writes: Sorry to say, but this is utter nonsense. It's a matter of fact that from an international

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Tablets and/or electronic ink are becoming increasingly important players in music. URL:http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57546915-1/orchestra-swaps-sheet-music-for-the-galaxy-note-10.1/ Oh, by the way: while we are using a device that has an unfavorably

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
On Jan 9, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: What's the difference between `fine' and `laser' printing? It is a question of the level of detail. If you are making a font for laser printers you have to avoid certain characteristics in shapes. The shapes have to be more gross or

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 January 2013 16:03, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: What i meant is: i would feel sorry if i couldn't use LilyPond's new, unique, custom-designed professional font to engrave polish national anthem or any other polish song because someone decided that polish language is not

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Beg to differ, too. A `web font' is essentially a font suitable for a computer display with a (quite) low resolution. In particular, such a font contains hints to intentionally distort the glyph shapes, making them render fine on such devices. Lilypond fonts and its other graphical

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
#1 VerdiItalian (3020 szenical runs) #2 Mozart German/Italian (2410) #8 BizetFrench (654) How many of those are Carmen? For the purpose of LilyPonding, number of _different_ performed compositions might be interesting. OK, some more

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
What i meant is: i would feel sorry if i couldn't use LilyPond's new, unique, custom-designed professional font to engrave polish national anthem or any other polish song because someone decided that polish language is not important enough to be supported. The way crowd funding works on

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
What i meant is: i would feel sorry if i couldn't use LilyPond's new, unique, custom-designed professional font to engrave polish national anthem or any other polish song because someone decided that polish language is not important enough to be supported. So what about the people from, say,

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Francisco Vila
El 09/01/2013 22:00, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org escribió: #87 ChapíSpanish (?) (21) Yes, Spanish. Covered by Latin-1. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
On Jan 9, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Am 09.01.2013 22:00, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I'm a pianist, and I know Chopin very well and like him a lot, but I have *never* heard or played a song written by him. I have two complete recordings of Chopin's songs, one of them published by

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Eben Sorkin
On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hi Werner, first of all, let me assure everyone that the last thing i want is a heated argument. I'll try to be brief: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: Hello Janek! [...] I'm a pianist, and I know

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Aleksandr Andreev
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Eben Sorkin e...@eyebytes.com wrote: Polish is like Czech a bit tricky because it has shapes that needs special treatment and thought. The most obvious are the slashes and ogoneks (Ł ł ą Ą etc. ). The use of w and other diagonals is different and requires

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[...] it doesn't change the fact that it should be possible to typeset scores in practically any language, if LilyPond wants to be 'for everyone’. Covering European languages including all the eastern ones is a straightforward task. Cyrillic is non-trivial unless you have be trained. I

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
What i meant is: i would feel sorry if i couldn't use LilyPond's new, unique, custom-designed professional font to engrave polish national anthem or any other polish song because someone decided that polish language is not important enough to be supported. Polish is like Czech a bit tricky

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
At least on Ubuntu, LilyPond supports OpenType glyph substitution and glyph positioning -- something I use quite heavily since I typeset scores in Church Slavonic -- at least the ccmp, rlig, kern, mark, and mkmk features work without any problems (though there seems to be no way to access

Re: Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-08 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Il 08/01/2013 08:14, Johan Vromans ha scritto: Although I use evince all of the time, I never use it for printing LilyPond scores. There are (very long standing) bugs in its printing engine that particularly affect LilyPond pdfs. For example, vertical bars are printed be much too black, and

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-08 Thread Josiah Boothby
I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. So far, Linux Libertine[1] has been my go-to replacement font, especially when I want to be more economical with horizontal space. It's not the most beautiful font in the world, but it does look good on paper,

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-08 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 01/08/2013 11:23 AM, Josiah Boothby wrote: I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. [...] Another source of open fonts that may be of sufficient quality for use in scores is Arkandis Digital Foundry[4]. [...] 4.

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.01.2013 10:14, schrieb Urs Liska: Dear community, I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. Hi all, thank you for your diverse suggestions. I found quite a number of fonts that seem to be very fine and deserve a closer look. I'm still not

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-08 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-01-08 um 11:36 schrieb Alexander Kobel: On 01/08/2013 11:23 AM, Josiah Boothby wrote: I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. [...] Another source of open fonts that may be of sufficient quality for use in scores is Arkandis Digital

Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Dear community, I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. I created a style sheet for a certain kind of score that I need regularely, namely classical voice-piano songs. When I reduced the staff size in a way that I get enough music on a page it

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.01.2013 11:24, schrieb Andrew Bernard: Greetings from Australia, So what font is it, actually? You did not mention. I didn't mention because it is visible in the pdf... But of course it would have been polite to explicitely mention Adobe Minion Pro. What I like about it is - the

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Nick Payne
On 07/01/13 21:36, Urs Liska wrote: Am 07.01.2013 11:24, schrieb Andrew Bernard: Greetings from Australia, So what font is it, actually? You did not mention. I didn't mention because it is visible in the pdf... But of course it would have been polite to explicitely mention Adobe Minion Pro.

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.01.2013 11:48, schrieb Nick Payne: On 07/01/13 21:36, Urs Liska wrote: Am 07.01.2013 11:24, schrieb Andrew Bernard: Greetings from Australia, So what font is it, actually? You did not mention. I didn't mention because it is visible in the pdf... But of course it would have been polite

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-01-07 um 10:14 schrieb Urs Liska: I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. So (to finally get to the point) I'd be happy about suggestions for good free text fonts to use with LilyPond. They should be well equipped in terms of language

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net writes: Am 2013-01-07 um 10:14 schrieb Urs Liska: I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. So (to finally get to the point) I'd be happy about suggestions for good free text fonts to use with LilyPond. They

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013, Nick Payne wrote: The Minion Pro font is bundled by Adobe with Adobe Reader. If you install Reader on Linux, the font files are copied to /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Resource/Font (that's where they are on my system), and if you install Reader on Windows, they are copied to

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl writes: On Mon, 7 Jan 2013, Nick Payne wrote: The Minion Pro font is bundled by Adobe with Adobe Reader. If you install Reader on Linux, the font files are copied to /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Resource/Font (that's where they are on my system), and if you

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.01.2013 12:14, schrieb David Kastrup: Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net writes: Am 2013-01-07 um 10:14 schrieb Urs Liska: I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. So (to finally get to the point) I'd be happy about suggestions for good free

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/1/7 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: [...] I don't like Adobe Reader on my system, it takes much too much space. I use evince. [...] A little off-topic. I recently wrote a draw-dashed-line-markup-command. During development I made the experience that evince didn't print all

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.01.2013 12:09, schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2013-01-07 um 10:14 schrieb Urs Liska: I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. So (to finally get to the point) I'd be happy about suggestions for good free text fonts to use with LilyPond. They

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-01-07 um 12:14 schrieb David Kastrup: Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net writes: Am 2013-01-07 um 10:14 schrieb Urs Liska: I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. So (to finally get to the point) I'd be happy about suggestions for

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de writes: Am 07.01.2013 12:09, schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2013-01-07 um 10:14 schrieb Urs Liska: I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for Century Schoolbook. So (to finally get to the point) I'd be happy about suggestions for good free

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Peter Crighton
Could you explain to me why you think Gentium isn’t suitable for lyrics? I’m using it (Gentium Book Basic) for my lyrics and am quite satisfied with it: https://s3.amazonaws.com/radiant_records/Sing+it+High+Songbook/Sing+It+High+Sample.pdf But maybe I’m missing some important issues … I’m not that

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.01.2013 15:01, schrieb Peter Crighton: Could you explain to me why you think Gentium isn’t suitable for lyrics? I’m using it (Gentium Book Basic) for my lyrics and am quite satisfied with it: https://s3.amazonaws.com/radiant_records/Sing+it+High+Songbook/Sing+It+High+Sample.pdf But maybe

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Nick Payne
On 07/01/13 22:19, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2013, Nick Payne wrote: The Minion Pro font is bundled by Adobe with Adobe Reader. If you install Reader on Linux, the font files are copied to /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Resource/Font (that's where they are on my system), and if you

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-01-07 um 15:01 schrieb Peter Crighton: Could you explain to me why you think Gentium isn’t suitable for lyrics? I’m using it (Gentium Book Basic) for my lyrics and am quite satisfied with it: https://s3.amazonaws.com/radiant_records/Sing+it+High+Songbook/Sing+It+High+Sample.pdf But

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Peter Crighton
I found Gentium Book Basic to be rather condensed, though, when choosing it several months ago. But you’re right, it might not be that suitable in other settings. I mainly write scores of the type I linked to, though, so at the moment, Gentium Book Basic is perfect for me. I very much like the

Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

2013-01-07 Thread Eben Sorkin
How does Fairplay look to you? http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Playfair+Display -e. On Jan 7, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: [Vernon Adams and Eben Sorkin are two typographers who are actively designing lots of typefaces, Dave Crossland is a fabulous promoter of free font

Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-07 Thread Johan Vromans
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes: I recently wrote a draw-dashed-line-markup-command. During development I made the experience that evince didn't print all dots in all cases. Adobe did. So I wouldn't want to miss it. Although I use evince all of the time, I never use it