Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
On 3/21/17 8:52 PM, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: FWIW, I've written algorithmically-generated music with irrational durations by a process described at http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/professional/music/notes-on-notes-on-the-plane.pdf and I think it came out pretty well. It's not deliberately

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread mskala
On Tue, 21 Mar 2017, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: > The only time I've even seen an attempt at irrational durations was in the > one other thread on this list that was actually more annoying, more > aggressive and differently clueless.  I believe the intended durations were > 1/sqrt(71) or

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
Subject: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't? > On 3/21/17 4:35 AM, Malte Meyn wrote: > >> >> Am 21.03.2017 um 06:46 schrieb have@anti.capital: >> >>> A composer who uses an irrational tuplet is a composer who is going out >>> of his way to e

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
On 3/21/17 4:35 AM, Malte Meyn wrote: Am 21.03.2017 um 06:46 schrieb have@anti.capital: A composer who uses an irrational tuplet is a composer who is going out of his way to exclude his music from comfortable notation. Oh, I think that these irrational tuplets are comfortable to write easy

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread David Kastrup
writes: > I think that I should append a disclaimer to my format: I don't > intend it to be more comfortably sight-read than sheet music is and > will be. I simply intend to create an analogue of .txt where there is > only .docx and .odt. It is perfectly legible for simple

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread David Wright
| > > > > And with that, I extended my format to meet the challenge. Does anyone else > have any irrational ABC or Guido code? Chopin? If not, I still have the best > format. QED. No, no, mine's the longest! Look: antidisestablishmentarianismIST > - Earlier

RE: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread have
? If not, I still have the best format. QED. - Original Message - Subject: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't? From: "Johan Vromans" <jvrom...@squirrel.nl> Date: 3/21/17 5:26 am To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Am 20.03.2017 um 22:48 schrieb have@anti.capital: &

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread Johan Vromans
Am 20.03.2017 um 22:48 schrieb have@anti.capital: > I have invented the perfect plaintext file format for premusic. I think the bottom line is that all text-based music notation systems have shortcomings when it comes to readability, writability, maintainability etc. From all imperfect systems

Scaled grace (was: What can Premusic do that others can't?)

2017-03-21 Thread Urs Liska
Am 21.03.2017 um 10:46 schrieb Malte Meyn: > (By the way: I think that the way LilyPond handles it (using “grace” and > “real time”) is pretty good but not perfect. \grace only needs grace > time but \afterGrace needs real time for vertical alignment (but not for > input of the notes)—it would

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 21.03.2017 um 10:18 schrieb Hans Åberg: > >> On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:40, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >> >>> As an example of what David is mentioning, have a look at the attached >>> png image (taken from Chopin's prelude op. 28/24) and try to notate >>> this. >> >> Oops, wrong image.

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:40, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> As an example of what David is mentioning, have a look at the attached >> png image (taken from Chopin's prelude op. 28/24) and try to notate >> this. > > Oops, wrong image. Here's the right one. The whole piece, with

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread Malte Meyn
y Richard Strauss. I can imagine some text editors crashing on that. Maybe they won’t crash if you insert line breaks but then you’ll need a very durable mouse wheel. > - Original Message ----- Subject: Re: What can Premusic do that > others can't? > From: "Werner LEM

Re: [Auto-Reply] Re: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread David Kastrup
writes: >> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:45 PM, have@anti.capital wrote: >> > Viral Anticapital will get back to you shortly. >> > >> > If this is a throwaway email account, that's fine if unnecessary - >> > please remember to keep checking it, though! >>

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-21 Thread David Kastrup
Jacques Menu Muzhic writes: > Hello Have, > > I don’t understand what you mean by square characters: can you make that more > clear? Character pairs. TTY dimensions mean that they occupy an almost square area. In an old video game I wrote, I used this kind of

RE: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread have
-- daaadaaadaaa||dadada||daaadaaadaad||dadada||dada-- - Original Message - Subject: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't? From: "Werner LEMBERG" <w...@gnu.org> Date: 3/21/17 12:19 am To: have@anti.capital Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Werner, thanks for asking.

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Werner, thanks for asking. I scored the second image you sent me. At > least, the parts of music exemplifying the complexity of > Chopin. Slurs and everything else have to be > discussed. http://pastebin.com/raw/APgfGgQz Here is the code, but > you will have to paste it into a text editor to

RE: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread have
discussion elsewhere if I'm unacceptably derailing - I'd just ask that you suggest an elsewhere for me to take it first. I've never started a project like this, and don't know where to go. VAC - Original Message ----- Subject: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't? From:

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 20.03.2017 um 22:48 schrieb have@anti.capital: I have invented the perfect plaintext file format for premusic. Sorry, but I find this preposterous as well as amusing… You really need to be somewhat aware of the complexity of the problem, before you can start a salespitch for the solution.

Fwd: Re: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Jeffery Shivers
-- Forwarded message -- From: <have@anti.capital> Date: Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't? To: Jeffery Shivers <jefferyshiv...@gmail.com> I'm interested to know how you would pronounce the phrase "Can't anyo

Re: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread mskala
Please trim quotes in replies. On Mon, 20 Mar 2017, Jeffery Shivers wrote: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:04 PM, wrote: > > me out? And what about my code is so cryptic? Can't anyone read a > > "dadadaaa"? > > No. Probably for the same reason *anyone* can't just read binary

RE: Re: [Auto-Reply] Re: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread have
Woah, I forgot about that. Haha, disabled signatures. Sorry folks. - Original Message - Subject: Re: [Auto-Reply] Re: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't? From: "Jeffery Shivers" <jefferyshiv...@gmail.com> Date: 3/20/17 6:49 pm To: "Lilypond-User Ma

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Juan Cristóbal Cerrillo
Shouldn’t this discussion be happening elsewhere? The relevance to Lilypond is what exactly? best, jc > On Mar 20, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Jacques Menu Muzhic > wrote: > > Hello Have, > > I don’t understand what you mean by square characters: can you make that more >

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Have, I don’t understand what you mean by square characters: can you make that more clear? There are text editors you can use I guess for the parallel aspect of what seems to be a measure-wise notation IIUC, i.e. those that offer block-mode editing such as Win-EDT on Windows. There’s a

Re: [Auto-Reply] Re: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Jeffery Shivers
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:45 PM, have@anti.capital wrote: > Viral Anticapital will get back to you shortly. > > If this is a throwaway email account, that's fine if unnecessary - please > remember to keep checking it, though! Seriously? -- Jeffery Shivers

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> As an example of what David is mentioning, have a look at the attached > png image (taken from Chopin's prelude op. 28/24) and try to notate > this. Oops, wrong image. Here's the right one. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Jeffery Shivers
quivalent to "daaa" with a fermata. That's just one way to > do it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Subject: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't? > From: "Malte Meyn" <lilyp...@maltemeyn.de> > Date: 3/20/17 5:14 pm >

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 20.03.2017 um 22:48 schrieb have@anti.capital: > MusicXML […] but it is an unwise solution here. As you mentioned several times, you’re not a programmer so probably others know a little better about how to store music in a way that programs can easily read. > ABC […] lacks the perfect and

RE: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread have
--- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: What can Premusic do that others can't? From: "Malte Meyn" <lilyp...@maltemeyn.de> Date: 3/20/17 5:14 pm To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Am 20.03.2017 um 22:48 schrieb have@anti.capital: > These are the first measures of Beethoven's Fifth in premu

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
writes: > Why don't I ask you to name a notation that does something that > Parallel Squares could NOT do? Or, if I reversed the roles, and every > tune on http://abcnotation.com were in my notation, and I approached, > telling you about the ABC or GUIDO notation I invented,

Re: What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 20.03.2017 um 22:48 schrieb have@anti.capital: > These are the first measures of Beethoven's Fifth in premusic. This is missing tempo, fermatas and dynamics. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

What can Premusic do that others can't?

2017-03-20 Thread have
Well, let's think about this. Sheet music, which I prefer to call sheet premusic, was developed over centuries to be comfortably written by hand. In the year 2017, premusic is encoded into a computer via really complicated file formats like MusicXML or Lilypond designed to describe sheet