Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-09-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 21:52 +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote: This isn't true. The only problem of not removing the old files is that they take some space. Newer versions of LilyPond will not use them anymore. Also, the whole problem is more or less outdated. LilyPond moved away from using TeX and

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 22:16 +0100, Rob Canning wrote: the debian package lilypond-data has a pre-depend of texlive though lilypond no longer has a runtime dependency on tex this is because as thomas explained : When the package is upgraded, the old automatically generated fonts need

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Karl Hammar
Thomas wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 22:16 +0100, Rob Canning wrote: the debian package lilypond-data has a pre-depend of texlive though lilypond no longer has a runtime dependency on tex ... As long as lilypond-book is included there is a dependancy on latex. Regards, /Karl

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Sonntag, 31. August 2008 schrieb Karl Hammar: Thomas wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 22:16 +0100, Rob Canning wrote: the debian package lilypond-data has a pre-depend of texlive though lilypond no longer has a runtime dependency on tex

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:49:53 +0200 Reinhold Kainhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Sonntag, 31. August 2008 schrieb Karl Hammar: As long as lilypond-book is included there is a dependancy on latex. lilypond-book it is also able to process

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Karl Hammar
Reinhold wrote: Am Sonntag, 31. August 2008 schrieb Karl Hammar: Thomas wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 22:16 +0100, Rob Canning wrote: the debian package lilypond-data has a pre-depend of texlive though lilypond no longer has a runtime dependency on tex ... As long as

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/8/31 Reinhold Kainhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Sonntag, 31. August 2008 schrieb Karl Hammar: Thomas wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 22:16 +0100, Rob Canning wrote: the debian package lilypond-data has a pre-depend of texlive though

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: are the consequences of not cleaning these files up significant compared with the implications of relying on what should no longer be a dependency. Yes. Because the files are still hanging around, failure to clean them produces bugs. People will expect to

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/8/31 Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:49:53 +0200 Reinhold Kainhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Sonntag, 31. August 2008 schrieb Karl Hammar: As long as lilypond-book is included there is a dependancy on latex.

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Francisco Vila wrote: Isn't this exactly what the recommends: field in .deb files is for? lilypond-book should recommend latex, docbook, texinfo, and www-browser. it does need latex, it does not need docbook (I wonder), it does not need www-browser. So we have to levels of

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/8/31 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, it is only recommended if you want to use lilypond-book in conjunction with latex to produce a document. In that case, it's pretty obvious to anybody that you need a tex distribution anyway. However, for the 99% of the users who don't use

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-31 Thread Karl Hammar
Valentin wrote: 2008/8/31 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, it is only recommended if you want to use lilypond-book in conjunction with latex to produce a document. In that case, it's pretty obvious to anybody that you need a tex distribution anyway. However, for the 99% of the

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 21:54 +0100, Rob Canning wrote: does this mean all this is needed is a modification to the debian controlfile? this would be great as if texlive-base is not a dep then lilypond should be small enough to fit on our live distro :) No, we're actually using kpsewhich. I

Re: debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-30 Thread Rob Canning
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 21:54 +0100, Rob Canning wrote: does this mean all this is needed is a modification to the debian controlfile? this would be great as if texlive-base is not a dep then lilypond should be small enough to fit on our live distro :)

debian control file out of date? was: Re: live cd-with lilypondhttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL

2008-08-25 Thread Rob Canning
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 23. August 2008 schrieb Mats Bengtsson: Rob Canning wrote: but at the moment we have found that lilypond pulls texlive as a dependency How come? This used to be true a very long time ago, but