2011/2/6 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu:
I've put together a proposed set of dim and dim7 fretboards.
You can download it at
https://sites.google.com/site/cdslilypond/docs/display-dim-fretboards.pdf?a
ttredirects=0d=1
There's an error in there, the G dim doesn't have a G in it (it should
On 2/8/11 5:11 AM, jakob lund jakob.be...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/2/6 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu:
I've put together a proposed set of dim and dim7 fretboards.
You can download it at
https://sites.google.com/site/cdslilypond/docs/display-dim-fretboards.pdf?a
ttredirects=0d=1
There is a fourth note, double one of the notes in the triad, in the dim
fingerings that is not in the score. IME the fingering should match the score
in cases where there is a score. The dim chord is a triad so the fingering
should contain only those three notes with none of them doubled;
Am 06.02.2011 18:32, schrieb Tim McNamara:
There is a fourth note, double one of the notes in the triad, in the dim
fingerings that is not in the score. IME the fingering should match the score
in cases where there is a score.
I think this is the case with tablature, but considering the
Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net writes:
I think it depends on the purpose of the chart. If aimed at hobbyist
and/or performing musicians, they are likely to use their favorite
fingerings and not necessarily what's written on the chord diagrams.
If it is teaching materials for students,
Tim McNamara timmcn at bitstream.net writes:
There is a fourth note, double one of the notes in the triad, in the dim
fingerings that is not in the score. IME
the fingering should match the score in cases where there is a score.
To make the fingering match the score, just don't use the
Indeed, it would be much more clear if the notes should match the fingering,
but then the notes should be adjusted, not the fingering But then the basic
structure of a chord gets much less clear. It already was suggested both
could be shown in the presentation.
Chord diagrams are actually almost
On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Marc Hohl wrote:
Am 06.02.2011 18:32, schrieb Tim McNamara:
There is a fourth note, double one of the notes in the triad, in the dim
fingerings that is not in the score. IME the fingering should match the
score in cases where there is a score.
I think this is
@ Carl Sorensen
Wow, looks great :-), though I'd play the D° as following : xx0131 .
Doubling the first note of the chord is better then the third of it, when
it is possible. And it's even easier to take.
This is why I love open source, people really can contribute :-D.
@ Tim McNamara
I've put together a proposed set of dim and dim7 fretboards.
You can download it at
https://sites.google.com/site/cdslilypond/docs/display-dim-fretboards.pdf?a
ttredirects=0d=1
or view it at
https://sites.google.com/site/cdslilypond/docs/display-dim-fretboards.pdf
Please comment.
Thanks,
On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote:
I've put together a proposed set of dim and dim7 fretboards.
You can download it at
https://sites.google.com/site/cdslilypond/docs/display-dim-fretboards.pdf?a
ttredirects=0d=1
or view it at
Am 03.02.2011 05:36, schrieb Carl Sorensen:
[...]
a) 1231xx or 1231x1
This is just Edim above up one fret, right?
This could be useful for higher chords:
f:dim 1231x1
fis:dim 2342x2
g:dim 3453x3
gis:dim 4564x4
a:dim 5675x5
bes:dim 6786x6
b:dim 7897x7
b) xx6464 or
On 2/2/11 11:10 AM, Ronald Hochreiter ron...@subjectmusic.com wrote:
Dear Carl, Bart, David,
don't know if my input is of any use, however - without fingering:
Ddim xx0131
Edim 0120x0
Starting from the Fdim it get's a bit more complicated in standard
tuning, see e.g. Fdim, where you'd
On 1/30/11 12:00 PM, bart deruyter bart.deruy...@gmail.com wrote:
I looked through the tuxguitar fret diagrams, and found this the most
interesting C#dim chordshape (I'm copying now from my own, extremely
incomplete predefined-guitar-fretboards-fix.ly
Am 30.01.2011 23:28, schrieb Tim McNamara:
[...]
It would also be wonderful to be able to stack extensions and alternative
voicings:
D7(b5)
(b9)
D7#5(b13) but in one tall parentheses (there may be a way to do that already
but I don't know how).
A bit off-topic, but the jazz
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes:
The source for the chord is this:
http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/Cxdim.asp
But my The Gig Bag Book of Picture Chords for all Guitarists lists
that same chord as C#dim7, but also says that dim and dim7 are
alternate names for the same
I can only speak for guitarists, because I am a guitarist, classical
guitarist, and I'll definatly stick to the correct naming for the correct
chords, and I am now going to create my own version of this predefined
guitar diagrams list. If all goes well, and I can manage it, I want to
upload it
Am 30.01.2011 um 10:45 schrieb bart deruyter:
I can only speak for guitarists, because I am a guitarist,
classical guitarist, and I'll definatly stick to the correct naming
for the correct chords, and I am now going to create my own version
of this predefined guitar diagrams list. If all
Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.de writes:
Am 30.01.2011 um 10:45 schrieb bart deruyter:
I can only speak for guitarists, because I am a guitarist,
classical guitarist, and I'll definatly stick to the correct
naming for the correct chords, and I am now going to create my own
Perhaps a solution would be like what is being done with midi, setting a
midi instrument. That way automatically the correct diagram for this
specific instrument can be shown.
e.g :
Chords = \chordmode {
\setDiagramInstrument =#guitar
cis:dim
}
notes = {
\relative c
{
e g cis g' 2 | cis4
On 1/30/11 2:45 AM, bart deruyter bart.deruy...@gmail.com wrote:
I can only speak for guitarists, because I am a guitarist, classical
guitarist, and I'll definatly stick to the correct naming for the correct
chords, and I am now going to create my own version of this predefined guitar
On 1/30/11 1:54 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
So basically we need a mechanism that can take a bunch of keyboard
chords and route them through predefined chord set translator for a
particular instrument, be that an accordion (which does not bother all
too much with fret diagrams
On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:45 AM, bart deruyter wrote:
I can only speak for guitarists, because I am a guitarist, classical
guitarist, and I'll definatly stick to the correct naming for the correct
chords, and I am now going to create my own version of this predefined guitar
diagrams list. If
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 11:43 +0100, bart deruyter wrote:
Perhaps a solution would be like what is being done with midi, setting
a midi instrument. That way automatically the correct diagram for this
specific instrument can be shown.
e.g :
Chords = \chordmode {
\setDiagramInstrument
I looked through the tuxguitar fret diagrams, and found this the most
interesting C#dim chordshape (I'm copying now from my own, extremely
incomplete predefined-guitar-fretboards-fix.ly file :
\addChordShape #'c:dim #guitar-tuning #x;3-4;1-1;o;1-2;o;
\storePredefinedDiagram #default-fret-table
On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Colin Campbell wrote:
There is a discussion on -bug about the display of chords for jazz
musicians, essentially asking for simplification in the interests of
readability. Following on Bart's suggestion, is it feasible to create
alternate display modes tied to a
Hi all,
I've noticed something strange in the predefined chord diagrams for guitar.
While writing on my book for teaching guitar, I noticed the chord C#
diminished is weird to say at the least. The fret diagram is very wrong I'm
afraid :
Hi Bart,
Sounds like it's giving you a C#dim7, typically spelled C# E G A# .
Cheers,
Mike
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:02 PM, bart deruyter bart.deruy...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I've noticed something strange in the predefined chord diagrams for guitar.
While writing on my book for teaching
bart deruyter bart.deruy...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all,
I've noticed something strange in the predefined chord diagrams for
guitar. While writing on my book for teaching guitar, I noticed the
chord C# diminished is weird to say at the least. The fret diagram is
very wrong I'm afraid :
What's to fix? the predefined fretdiagram of C#° shows a different chord,
namely C#dim7, according to Michael Ellis...
I need C#°, erroneous predefined chord diagrams need to be fixed of course.
http://www.bartart3d.be/
2011/1/29 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
bart deruyter
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:57 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Uh, why wouldn't it be in C# diminuished? It's a minor third below C#,
or three minor thirds above it.
Or am I so very mistaken?
What should I do to fix this in my code?
What's to fix?
Just looked at the doc. Bart's
The score is correct, the diagrams are wrong, of all diminished chords I
think. C diminished and D diminished are wrong too, the diagrams at least.
http://www.bartart3d.be/
2011/1/29 Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:57 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
As long as I'm on my soapbox :-), it occurs to me that it would be a
service to any student guitarist looking at that chart if the staff
notation showed the actual voicing of the chords, perhaps in
parentheses, alongside the root position close voicings, e.g
g, c e bes c' e'
for the C7
On Jan 29, 2011, at 1:02 PM, bart deruyter wrote:
I've noticed something strange in the predefined chord diagrams for guitar.
While writing on my book for teaching guitar, I noticed the chord C#
diminished is weird to say at the least. The fret diagram is very wrong I'm
afraid :
On 1/29/11 12:02 PM, bart deruyter bart.deruy...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I've noticed something strange in the predefined chord diagrams for guitar.
While writing on my book for teaching guitar, I noticed the chord C#
diminished is weird to say at the least. The fret diagram is very
On 1/29/11 1:31 PM, Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as I'm on my soapbox :-), it occurs to me that it would be a
service to any student guitarist looking at that chart if the staff
notation showed the actual voicing of the chords, perhaps in
parentheses, alongside the
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