Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/26 strk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 06:49:11PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/25 Keith Weintraub [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Folks, Anyone have an example (forgive me if I missed it in the docs) of just chords and lyrics? I don't want to worry about the notes

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2008-11-27 Thread John Sellers
(sorry to copy the whole thing back, but it seems appropriate some how). I hear your pain. I'll do what I can, but it may not be much. I'm currently taking violin lessons from Jeremy Cohen (Grammy nominated this year), and Julian Smedley (Berkeley Hot Club and others), and Guitar from Jimmy

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/27 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now, the @TODO in the .itely file was, I think, referring to a different sort of just chords and lyrics, where there was actually no music staff at all, just chord symbols and lyrics. *That* was the result for which I recommended a word processor

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2008-11-27 Thread John Sellers
Understood, and no argumenthere then is another suggestion...if this tutorial is as good as you say. Make sure it crosses the paths of newbies enough that they will end up reading before they get in as deep as I have. Will I read it? Yes, may the next time I run into a problem. But would

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2008-11-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:24:35AM -0800, John Sellers wrote: Understood, and no argumenthere then is another suggestion...if this tutorial is as good as you say. Make sure it crosses the paths of newbies enough that they will end up reading before they get in as deep as I have.

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Johan Vromans
Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But LilyPond is transposable, ... one of the things I really like about LilyPond is that I can transpose songs automatically. Chordii can handle that as well. -- Johan Chord is alive! http://chordii.sourceforge.net

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2008-11-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:13:21AM -0800, John Sellers wrote: (sorry to copy the whole thing back, but it seems appropriate some how). -snip long rambling rant- John, please spend a few minutes looking at our web pages. We already do virtually everything you mentioned. You mentioned:

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2008-11-27 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/27 John Sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is this learning tutorial going to be part of a stable version soon The tutorial in the learning manual is a part of the docs of the current development version. This version is the next stable. It is recommended to move soon to it, for many reasons. --

\tempo alignment

2008-11-27 Thread Simon Bailey
hi, i'm probably missing something _really_ simple here, either that or it's not possible... i'd like to align the \tempo mark to the clef or the time-signature rather than to the first note. is there an automated way to do this, or should i just twiddle with the extra-offset setting?

dissonant chords

2008-11-27 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, Did anyone ever try to typeset dissonant chords like { c cis d } ? I can remember having seen chords like this frequently in Bela Bartok's Mikrokosmos book V or VI , edition Boosey Hawkes. I don't have a scan or a scanner, but it would approximately look something like this:

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2008-11-27 Thread Jonathan Kulp
John Sellers wrote: Will I read it? Yes, may the next time I run into a problem. But would you I can't believe I wasted my time reading this email when you STILL haven't looked at the current Learning Manual! Geez... tell me where to find it, and just which tutorial you are referring

Re: dissonant chords

2008-11-27 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Hi, Did anyone ever try to typeset dissonant chords like { c cis d } ? I can remember having seen chords like this frequently in Bela Bartok's Mikrokosmos book V or VI , edition Boosey Hawkes. I don't have a scan or a scanner, but it would approximately look

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: That sounds good. Where do the most current .itely files live now? If you want I'll add a bit about this. I'll create a branch for your documentation and give you a copy of the current .itely file, but it will probably be Friday (but maybe tomorrow). Carl Ok

Re: dissonant chords

2008-11-27 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/27 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't have a scan or a scanner, but it would approximately look something like this: 00|#0 |/ | I haven't tried typesetting this type of chord but I'm pretty sure Samuel Barber

Re: dissonant chords

2008-11-27 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/27 Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chopin has it in etude Op 10 no. 2 IIRC Oops, no, it's Op.10 no. 11, measure 2. Sorry -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: \tempo alignment

2008-11-27 Thread Simon Bailey
On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Graham Percival wrote: See: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=684 thanks, graham. looks like i'll use extra-offset for now then. regards, sb -- Simon Bailey Oompa Loompa of Science +43 699 190 631 25

Re: \tempo alignment

2008-11-27 Thread Graham Percival
See: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=684 Cheers, - Graham On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:50:34AM +0100, Simon Bailey wrote: hi, i'm probably missing something _really_ simple here, either that or it's not possible... i'd like to align the \tempo mark to the clef or the

Re: dissonant chords

2008-11-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson
See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505 for a solution. /Mats Quoting Martin Tarenskeen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Did anyone ever try to typeset dissonant chords like { c cis d } ? I can remember having seen chords like this frequently in Bela Bartok's Mikrokosmos book V or VI , edition

nested staffgroups broken in 2.11.64

2008-11-27 Thread Simon Bailey
hi, according to the documentation at : http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-staves.html#Nested-staff-groups the following code should produce the image shown in the documentation. \score { \relative c'' { \new StaffGroup \new Staff { c2 c | c2 c

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2008-11-27 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/27/08 2:24 AM, John Sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Understood, and no argumenthere then is another suggestion...if this tutorial is as good as you say. Make sure it crosses the paths of newbies enough that they will end up reading before they get in as deep as I have. I think

Re: nested staffgroups broken in 2.11.64

2008-11-27 Thread 今井雄治
Hi, Simon. Use InnerStaffGroup in StaffGroup. How about like this: \score { \new StaffGroup \set StaffGroup.systemStartDelimiterHierarchy = #'(SystemStartSquare (SystemStartBracket a (SystemStartBrace b c)) d) \new Staff { \set Staff.instrumentName =

Re: dissonant chords

2008-11-27 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Mats Bengtsson wrote: See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505 for a solution. /Mats Thanks for this direction, Mats. I tweaked it a bit to look more like the ones Samuel Barber uses but haven't had time to figure out how to make the split stem converge on a single stem that is then

Multiple right-aligned lines in composer field

2008-11-27 Thread Marius Andersen
I am using LilyPond 2.10.33 to arrange a few Radiohead tunes, so in the composer field I want to write the following long text which spans two lines: Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood, Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood The composer field is

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2008-11-27 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/27/08 2:13 AM, John Sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hear your pain. I'll do what I can, but it may not be much. I'm currently taking violin lessons from Jeremy Cohen (Grammy nominated this year), and Julian Smedley (Berkeley Hot Club and others), and Guitar from Jimmy Luttrell

Re: Multiple right-aligned lines in composer field

2008-11-27 Thread james
If you insist on using 2.10, then you need to use \right-align in addition to \column http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Overview-of- text-markup-commands#Overview-of-text-markup-commands Am 27.11.2008 um 19:49 schrieb Marius Andersen: I am using LilyPond 2.10.33 to

Re: Multiple right-aligned lines in composer field

2008-11-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson
In version 2.10, it should work to do something like \markup\column{ \right-align { First line } \right-align { Second line } } /Mats Quoting Marius Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am using LilyPond 2.10.33 to arrange a few Radiohead tunes, so in the composer field I want to write the

Re: dissonant chords

2008-11-27 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/11/27 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505 for a solution. It has also been mentioned in the tracker: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=546#c6 Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: nested staffgroups broken in 2.11.64

2008-11-27 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Simon, 2008/11/27 Simon Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: on my box (mac os x, leopard using 2.11.64 darwin-ppc) i get the attached image weird-nested-staffgroup.png. what gives? The documentation at kainhofer.com reflects the latest build from the git repository; the new syntax won't be available

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Brett Duncan
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: I got exactly the same output with the Devnull approach as with the durations added to the lyrics. I can't see any difference at all in the output of the two approaches. Are you doing something different? If so, I'd really like to see it. Thanks, Carl The

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
For me the main issue here is that if I *only* want chords and lyrics, I want the lyrics to be spaced according to proper typography, and I want the chords to just follow along with the lyrics, instead of having both the chords and the lyrics spaced according to the duration of the non-visible

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: For me the main issue here is that if I *only* want chords and lyrics, I want the lyrics to be spaced according to proper typography, and I want the chords to just follow along with the lyrics, instead of having both the chords and the lyrics spaced according to the

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:22:51PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: makeTransparent = { \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t \override Stem #'transparent = ##t \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f This could be added to ly/property-init.ly. Oh, and indentation. And possibly a

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:22:51PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: makeTransparent = { \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t \override Stem #'transparent = ##t \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f This could be added to ly/property-init.ly. Oh, and

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/27/08 8:06 PM, Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:22:51PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: makeTransparent = { \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t \override Stem #'transparent = ##t \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility =

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: I'll try to come up with something. My first one was \makeItVanish but that seems too flippant for the docs :) How about hideVoiceNotation? I like that. Don't forget to include slurs. Good catch. There are none in this example but it would be remiss not to

Spacing before and after barlines

2008-11-27 Thread Basil Crow
Dear list, I am using invisible barlines in the middle of a line in a score. I would like to completely eliminate any effect that these invisible barlines have on note spacing. I know I could just remove them, but there is no way to determine which ones would fall in the middle of the

Re: Spacing before and after barlines

2008-11-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Basil, Could someone please help me find the right property? Have you tried \override BarLine #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0) [or even negative numbers]? HTH! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Spacing before and after barlines

2008-11-27 Thread Basil Crow
On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:40 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Have you tried \override BarLine #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0) [or even negative numbers]? Hi Kieren, Thank you for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it doesn't resolve my issue. I also tried zeroing kern to no effect. Also, in case it

Re: dissonant chords

2008-11-27 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 03:23:56PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505 for a solution. /Mats 45 degrees stem rotation ... Lilypond keeps amaizing me ! Thank you. Martin ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:15:39PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 11/27/08 8:06 PM, Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:22:51PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: makeTransparent = { \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t \override