Re: Exited with return code -1073741819.

On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 07:44:29 (+1100), Andrew Bernard wrote: > I am not sure for whom you mean error prone - the user, or the compiler. The user. Constructions like seq 1 10 (eg, in bash) are designed to avoid the need for 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. Computers are good at this, humans aren't. We

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 12:49:07 (-0400), kieren_macmillan kieren_macmillan wrote: I guess I had expected a reference/url/scan rather than "yes". I realise that all sorts of "odd" notations were around in preclassical times, But wouldn't claim to understand them. Does the example I've given

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 at 18:03 tisimst wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Kieren MacMillan [via Lilypond] <[hidden > email] > wrote: > > It's *legitimate* in all musical circles, though it's not *embraced* by > all. >

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

David Wright writes: > On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 12:49:07 (-0400), kieren_macmillan kieren_macmillan > wrote: > > > I guess I had expected a reference/url/scan rather than "yes". Zere is some music notation zat makes me 'url. -- David Kastrup

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Kieren MacMillan [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n196008...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > It's *legitimate* in all musical circles, though it's not *embraced* by > all. > ... as Kieren and I saw on a facebook group the other day when a composer started a discussion

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

Hi David, It's *legitimate* in all musical circles, though it's not *embraced* by all. Cheers,Kieren. -- Original Message --From: David Wright Date: November 2, 2016 at 12:45 PMOn Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 21:13:57 (+0200), Noeck wrote:> > Forgive

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: >> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to >> define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, the >>

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 2 Nov 2016, at 19:02, tisimst wrote: > > ... as Kieren and I saw on a facebook group the other day when a composer > started a discussion about having a bar with an "irrational" 2/6 time > signature. Wow, the flames that ensued! It's quite simple: > > { \time

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 20:10:39 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: > >> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to > >>

Re: Changing voice order...

Alexander Kobel writes: > On 2016-11-02 11:35, David Kastrup wrote: >> Alexander Kobel writes: >> >>> On 2016-11-02 11:20, David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Kobel writes: > I mostly set vocal music - typically clean SATB

Re: Changing voice order...

Alexander Kobel writes: > On 2016-11-02 12:01, David Kastrup wrote: >> Alexander Kobel writes: >>>[...] >> Ugh. Maybe it's just \addlyrics then? Or wait: >> >> >> >> >> Uh, what?!? >> >> lilypond /tmp/alex.ly >> GNU LilyPond 2.19.50 >> Processing

Re: Changing voice order...

Alexander Kobel writes: > I mostly set vocal music - typically clean SATB with exactly four > voices on either two or four staves, but sometimes a voice splits to > two or three in between. In that case, I'll almost always have a > four-staves situation. This screams for <<

Re: Changing voice order...

Alexander Kobel writes: > On 2016-11-02 11:20, David Kastrup wrote: >> Alexander Kobel writes: >> >>> I mostly set vocal music - typically clean SATB with exactly four >>> voices on either two or four staves, but sometimes a voice splits to >>> two or

Re: Changing voice order...

On 2016-11-02 11:35, David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Kobel writes: On 2016-11-02 11:20, David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Kobel writes: I mostly set vocal music - typically clean SATB with exactly four voices on either two or four staves, but sometimes

Re: Changing voice order...

That's three voices, not four. Also - I was specifying vocal settings because a lot of the early discussion centred about how it's difficult to use the << \\ >> syntax with vocal scores, which generally are spoken about as being SATB and therefore there was an expectation that << S \\ A \\ T

Re: Changing voice order...

>> \voiceOrder { 1, 3, 5, 7, 6, 4, 2 } >> << c'''2 \\ g'' \\ e'' \\ c'' \\ g' \\ e' \\ c' >> > > More like \voices 1,3,5,7,6,4,2 << ... >> if we want to keep in > current syntax. This is assuming a one-shot command taking the << > >> construct as its last argument. Hmm, my original idea was

Re: Changing voice order...

On 2016-10-28 14:52, David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Kobel writes: [...] Basically you need to only fix those voices not obeying the standard scheme (usually just one) and the rest will work out. So I don't really think that a special syntax is needed. True. But isn't the

Re: Changing voice order...

On 2016-11-02 12:01, David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Kobel writes: [...] Ugh. Maybe it's just \addlyrics then? Or wait: Uh, what?!? lilypond /tmp/alex.ly GNU LilyPond 2.19.50 Processing `/tmp/alex.ly'

Re: Changing voice order...

"Phil Holmes" writes: > That's three voices, not four. > > Also - I was specifying vocal settings because a lot of the early > discussion centred about how it's difficult to use the << \\ >> syntax > with vocal scores, which generally are spoken about as being SATB and >

Re: Changing voice order...

Werner LEMBERG writes: >> To make it more visible I coded a small snippet annotating some info >> to NoteHeads in >> << .. \\ .. \\ ... ... ... >>-constructs. >> >> Output attached. > > Thanks! > > What about a two-step process: You first set up the order of the > voices, then you

Re: Changing voice order...

On 2016-11-02 11:20, David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Kobel writes: I mostly set vocal music - typically clean SATB with exactly four voices on either two or four staves, but sometimes a voice splits to two or three in between. In that case, I'll almost always have a

Re: Changing voice order...

David Kastrup writes: > Alexander Kobel writes: > >> On 2016-11-02 12:01, David Kastrup wrote: >>> Alexander Kobel writes: [...] >>> Ugh. Maybe it's just \addlyrics then? Or wait: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Uh, what?!? >>> >>> lilypond

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-02 13:04 GMT+01:00 Werner LEMBERG : >>> \voiceOrder { 1, 3, 5, 7, 6, 4, 2 } >>> << c'''2 \\ g'' \\ e'' \\ c'' \\ g' \\ e' \\ c' >> >> >> More like \voices 1,3,5,7,6,4,2 << ... >> if we want to keep in >> current syntax. This is assuming a one-shot command taking the <<

RE: Follow-up: organ pedal toe-to-heel shift

Hi Joe, A Baroque player myself, we only use toes. :) This? [It's easy to see how to invert the symbols - I was not sure which way up you want.] Andrew === snip \version "2.19.49" #(define-markup-command (pedal-sub layout props)() (interpret-markup layout props

A tricky example -- polyMETER against polyRHYTHM

Took some skull sweat to figure this one out. But someone may get a kick out of it. What I wanted to do was to set up two polymeters (different accent patterns) with a shifting polymeter against 'em. Here's a png image of the score: http://i.imgur.com/RtYUgRR.png

Follow-up: organ pedal toe-to-heel shift

Please see the original message on this subject: http://osdir.com/ml/lilypond-user-gnu/2016-05/msg00210.html Can someone please tell me how to modify the attached code so that right toe-to-heel shift marks are not upside down? For example, the left toe-to-heel shift appears as desired below

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 2 Nov 2016, at 21:08, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 20:10:39 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright wrote: >>> >>> On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote:

Re: Changing voice order...

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Thomas Morley-2 [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n196021...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > 2016-11-02 13:04 GMT+01:00 Werner LEMBERG <[hidden email] > >: > > >>> \voiceOrder { 1, 3, 5, 7, 6, 4, 2 } > >>> << c'''2 \\ g''

Can't login to lists.gnu..

Hey guys, rather unusual stuff happening.. I want to edit my list options (don't want every new thread into my mailbox). I have my password cached in the browser and I'm getting 'authentication failed' error every time I try to login. When trying to reset password, I'm getting info that it should

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 22:13:54 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 2 Nov 2016, at 21:08, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 20:10:39 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > >> > >>> On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright wrote: > >>>

Re: Changing voice order...

On 2016-11-02 12:43, David Kastrup wrote: David Kastrup writes: Alexander Kobel writes: On 2016-11-02 12:01, David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Kobel writes: [...] Ugh. Maybe it's just \addlyrics then? Or wait: Uh, what?!?

Re: Changing voice order...

Alexander Kobel writes: > According to comment #10 on > https://code.google.com/archive/p/lilypond/issues/4097 my example > needs a \lyricsto Staff = "sop" instead of just \lyricsto "sop". > (Though I don't quite get the explanation since the latter works for > Voice

Re: Changing voice order...

A bit more of Mutopia statistics: 4157 .ly files on Mutopia don't use << \\ >> 1130 .ly files on Mutopia do 307 of the latter have only one \\, so the can't be affected by a change The other 823 possible could be affected but most of them use only two voices in one construct but several such

Re: Changing voice order...

Noeck writes: > A bit more of Mutopia statistics: > > 4157 .ly files on Mutopia don't use << \\ >> > 1130 .ly files on Mutopia do > 307 of the latter have only one \\, so the can't be affected by a change > The other 823 possible could be affected but most of them use only

Re: Changing voice order...

Am 02.11.2016 um 14:48 schrieb David Kastrup: > This particular one is... horrific. In most of the cases the author should just have used chords instead of voices. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Question for a FLOSS licensing session

On 31/10/16 10:08, David Kastrup wrote: >> > The repository contains among others >> > - encoded music >> > - Scheme functions created for the project >> > - Scheme functions created using included code from LilyPond and GPLed >> > openLilyLib >> > - Scheme functions created by modifying functions

Re: Question for a FLOSS licensing session

Wols Lists writes: > On 31/10/16 10:08, David Kastrup wrote: >>> > The repository contains among others >>> > - encoded music >>> > - Scheme functions created for the project >>> > - Scheme functions created using included code from LilyPond and GPLed >>> > openLilyLib

Re: Changing voice order...

Noeck writes: > Am 02.11.2016 um 14:48 schrieb David Kastrup: >> This particular one is... horrific. > > In most of the cases the author should just have used chords instead of > voices. I have no issue with following the Urtext (assuming that this is what the author did).

Re: Changing voice order...

Am 02.11.2016 um 15:03 schrieb David Kastrup: > I have no issue with following the Urtext (assuming that this is what > the author did). Ah ok, that's possible. The copy I found does have chords in those places. ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: midi volume: default, crescendo, dynamic context, multiple staff

On 11/1/2016 5:24 PM, Gianmaria Lari wrote: > > What's the default midi volume in case I don't specify an absolute > dynamic mark (like \p \f etc)? Is there any way to change this default > value? > If I do this... \version "2.19.48" { c' } \midi { } ...and open the resulting MIDI file in

Re: Changing voice order...

> To make it more visible I coded a small snippet annotating some info > to NoteHeads in > << .. \\ .. \\ ... ... ... >>-constructs. > > Output attached. Thanks! What about a two-step process: You first set up the order of the voices, then you input from top to bottom. Example: % current

Re: Augmentation dots regtests

> 1) The kievan dot for a notehead on a line moved to a space, when it >should have stayed on a line. > > 2) When notes are displayed without a staff, the dot should stay on >the same level as the notehead, but it shifts up a half space. > > I'd welcome a critical review of the regtests

Re: Question for a FLOSS licensing session

On 31/10/16 09:04, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2016-10-31 9:48 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup : >> Thomas Morley writes: >> >>> When entering a new snippet first thing you read is: >>> >>> "Important: By entering your snippet, you are placing it in the public >>>

Re: Changing voice order...

On 2016-11-02 14:56, Noeck wrote: Am 02.11.2016 um 14:48 schrieb David Kastrup: >This particular one is... horrific. In most of the cases the author should just have used chords instead of voices. My guess that the intention was to stay as close to Bach's manuscripts as possible. I have used

Re: Question for a FLOSS licensing session

On 02/11/16 15:14, David Kastrup wrote: > Wols Lists writes: > >> On 31/10/16 10:08, David Kastrup wrote: > The repository contains among others > - encoded music > - Scheme functions created for the project > - Scheme functions created using included

Re: Changing voice order...

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 7:49 AM, David Kastrup [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n195993...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > > By the way, the top position with 369 double backslashes is this piece: > > https://github.com/MutopiaProject/MutopiaProject/ >

Re: Question for a FLOSS licensing session

Wols Lists writes: > On 02/11/16 15:14, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Wrong. Your duty is to license the whole work you distribute under the >> terms of the GPL, with due notices attached and the licensing obvious to >> the downstream recipient. If you fail to do so, you

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 21:13:57 (+0200), Noeck wrote: > > Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way > > to define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, > > the measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note. > > this is

Re: Augmentation dots regtests

On 2 Nov 2016 08:13, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote: > > > > Does moving the dot-column-engraver to voice sort out the confusing > > horizontal spacing in these situations? First time I've seen that > > and it does interesting things to the positioning of dots. > > Alas, it doesn't work

Re: Augmentation dots regtests

> Looking at these, I suspect dot-columns on voices should be the > default. Perhaps that would increase the motivation to fix its > issues ;) Hehe, good argument :-) Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Augmentation dots regtests

> Does moving the dot-column-engraver to voice sort out the confusing > horizontal spacing in these situations? First time I've seen that > and it does interesting things to the positioning of dots. Alas, it doesn't work reliably in many cases (because it works locally only) and it sometimes

Re: Augmentation dots regtests

On 2 Nov 2016 06:37, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote: > > > > 1) The kievan dot for a notehead on a line moved to a space, when it > >should have stayed on a line. > > > > 2) When notes are displayed without a staff, the dot should stay on > >the same level as the notehead, but it

Re: Changing voice order...

Am 01.11.2016 um 15:42 schrieb David Kastrup: > How about we check out Mutopia? It is my guess that a considerable > number of the uses of << \\ \\ \\ >> construct with three or more voices > are wrong. In the Mutopia files there are 15873 double backslashes `\\`: grep -roh "" ftp

Re: Changing voice order...

Am 01.11.2016 um 16:36 schrieb Phil Holmes: > I don't use concert-ly 'cos I find it a pain on Windows. It's very easy with Frescobaldi, if you don't like the command line: Tools > Update with convert-ly ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Changing voice order...

"Trevor Daniels" writes: > David Kastrup wrote Tuesday, November 01, 2016 4:11 PM > >> I want to rename the \voiceXXX constructs >> as well. The old ones will be available still but no longer promoted >> and/or documented prominently, instead using something like