Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
From: Tim Rowe wrote Monday, May 11, 2009 12:29 AM 2009/5/10 Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se: This is explained in Sect. 3.2.3 Voices and vocals in the Learning Manual for LilyPond. I can't see anything relating to it there -- it was the first place I looked! Perhaps you don't

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/10 James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com: There are different ways of doing this. I prefer to have separate voice contexts for the verse and lyrics, i.e., music = { \context Voice = Verse \relative {} \context Voice = Chorus \relative {} } and then corresponding lyrics contexts:

Vertical alignment of \mark and \markup

2009-05-11 Thread David Jarvie
Since upgrading from version 2.10 to 2.12, I can't manage to get neighbouring \mark and \markup output to align properly. I have a \mark on a barline, and a ^\markup over the 4-bar rest which follows the barline. With version 2.10, the two items appeared at the same distance above the stave, but

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/11 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: Tim, I think Mats meant the very last example in that section, which shows two ways of coding a solo verse followed by a 2-part harmonised refrain. You could use either technique to code verses and chorus.  The second method right at the end

rhythm dynamics

2009-05-11 Thread isaac
Hi, i'm isaac ive been recently composing my own music but i came to a problem. I cant find where the rhythm dynamics are in the online manual. im looking for the input names for ritenuto', 'a tempo' and the likes to put into my composition. Am i simply looking in the wrong place, not looking

Re: missing glissando features (bugs?)

2009-05-11 Thread Marc Hohl
Neil Puttock schrieb: 2009/5/10 Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de: And here's my solution for tablature: #(define (glissando::calc-tab-extra-dy grob) (let* ((original (ly:grob-original grob)) (left-bound (ly:spanner-bound original LEFT)) (right-bound (ly:spanner-bound original

Re: rhythm dynamics

2009-05-11 Thread Marc Hohl
isaac schrieb: Hi, i'm isaac ive been recently composing my own music but i came to a problem. I cant find where the rhythm dynamics are in the online manual. im looking for the input names for ritenuto', 'a tempo' and the likes to put into my composition. Am i simply looking in the wrong

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:13:41AM +0100, Tim Rowe wrote: That looks like what I need, but I don't quite understand it -- probably because I don't properly understand contexts -- the in documentation, all the index entries for contexts take me to sections that assume I already know what they

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/11 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: RTF Learning Manual.  It's written specifically for this purpose. - Graham Really I find this attitude very aggressive, hostile and unwelcoming, and quite unlike all of the other email groups for software that I use. In the case of every

Re: \set string

2009-05-11 Thread -Eluze
oiram73 wrote: Ciao a tutti! Vorrei sapere se c'è un modo per rendere costante la distanza delle corde use \override StringNumber #'staff-padding = #'() to allow string numbers to be written inside the staff saluti cordiali! -- View this message in context:

Re: Absolute premiere of a LilyPond typesetted work

2009-05-11 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/5/9 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com: It was typeset by the pianist and composer Pascual Marchante. As for the license of the score: well thougth, if it is not published at all, how can it be licensed anyway? It is a copyrighted work, period. IIRC it was commissioned by the Madrid

Re: Absolute premiere of a LilyPond typesetted work

2009-05-11 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message eefe316d0905110537s44f4a356v5bccffb55eb8d...@mail.gmail.com, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com writes 2009/5/9 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com: It was typeset by the pianist and composer Pascual Marchante. As for the license of the score: well thougth, if it is not

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message aee48b3c0905110359h62344d13j414f03be325c1...@mail.gmail.com, Tim Rowe digi...@gmail.com writes 2009/5/11 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: RTF Learning Manual.  It's written specifically for this purpose. - Graham Really I find this attitude very aggressive, hostile and

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 11.05.2009 um 12:59 schrieb Tim Rowe: 2009/5/11 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: RTF Learning Manual. It's written specifically for this purpose. - Graham Really I find this attitude very aggressive, hostile and unwelcoming, and quite unlike all of the other email groups for

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:59:12AM +0100, Tim Rowe wrote: In the case of every question I have asked, I have not only scoured the manuals -- not just the learning manual -- but also searched the snippets repository and the web in general for anything that might give me a clue. Did you, or did

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 05:11:53PM +0200, James E. Bailey wrote: The lilypond documentation really isn't the kind of documentation that you can go to when you want to know how to do something. It's designed to teach you how to use the software. That's a beautiful quote. Valentin, could you

Re: \set string

2009-05-11 Thread Mario Moles
In data lunedì 11 maggio 2009 13:30:46, -Eluze ha scritto: : oiram73 wrote: Ciao a tutti! Vorrei sapere se c'è un modo per rendere costante la distanza delle corde use \override StringNumber #'staff-padding = #'() to allow string numbers to be written inside the staff saluti cordiali!

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 04:03:51PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: Graham's quite cuddly when you get to know him - like a hedgehog you just have to be very careful how you cuddle him :-) Aww, you're making me blush. :) The difficulty is that steep learning curve. Any decent lilypond piece

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 11.05.2009 um 17:18 schrieb Graham Percival: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 05:11:53PM +0200, James E. Bailey wrote: The lilypond documentation really isn't the kind of documentation that you can go to when you want to know how to do something. It's designed to teach you how to use the software.

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
Actually, the manuals are pretty good. After a fashion, yes. What's there is clear and well written. But the indexing and cross referencing is weak (too often it leads to where a concept is just mentioned rather than explained) and there seem to be gaps (although that might be because I can't

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/11 James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com: The lilypond documentation really isn't the kind of documentation that you can go to when you want to know how to do something. It's designed to teach you how to use the software. That's a beautiful quote.  Valentin, could you include it

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 05:32:29PM +0100, Tim Rowe wrote: 2009/5/11 James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com: The lilypond documentation really isn't the kind of documentation that you can go to when you want to know how to do something. It's designed to teach you how to use the

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/11 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: The Learning Manual does ***NOT*** require any prior knowledge. If you find **any** lilypond material in the LM which does not follow from previous material, this is a bug. (we do not explain musical terminology, although we try to add

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 11.05.2009 um 18:38 schrieb Graham Percival: Something like LM 1.2 About the documentation? (on the LR) This book explains how to begin learning LilyPond, as well as explaining some key concepts in easy terms. You should read these chapters in a linear fashion. (on the NR) This book

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/11 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: Tim, I think Mats meant the very last example in that section, which shows two ways of coding a solo verse followed by a 2-part harmonised refrain. You could use either technique to code verses and chorus.  The second method right at the end

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/11 Tim Rowe digi...@gmail.com: but that involves me counting the bars, so I'd sooner do something like  \set Score.currentBarNumber = #(- 'internalBarNumber 1) except not that because it doesn't work. And neither does \set Score.currentBarNumber = #(- 'Score.currentBarNumber 1) nor

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Tim, I can kludge that by using: \set Score.currentBarNumber = #9 but that involves me counting the bars, so I'd sooner do something like \set Score.currentBarNumber = #(- 'internalBarNumber 1) except not that because it doesn't work. Drat. Am I going to have to learn more scheme, or

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/11 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca: If I recall correctly, there's a Scheme function in the LSR which allows you to increment/decrement the bar number at any point -- search for bar number or increment. Which is the LSR? I'd done that search in the learning manual,

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Tim Rowe wrote: 2009/5/11 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca: If I recall correctly, there's a Scheme function in the LSR which allows you to increment/decrement the bar number at any point -- search for bar number or increment. Which is the LSR? I'd done that search in the

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/11 Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com: And maybe this is the snippet Kieren's thinking of? http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=333 Thanks. It looks as if learn more scheme is the answer ;-) -- Tim Rowe ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting Tim Rowe digi...@gmail.com: Thanks. With that I've got something that is very nearly right. Having given the music element pretty obvious names, I have in a simultaneous section of the score: \new Voice = mel { \autoBeamOff \chorus \new Voice = vs {\verse} } Here, I would rather

Re: Vertical alignment of \mark and \markup

2009-05-11 Thread -Eluze
How can I make them be aligned vertically again? no idea why it changed and where this happens, but \override Score.RehearsalMark #'padding = #2.5 might help -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vertical-alignment-of-%5Cmark-and-%5Cmarkup-tp23478925p23492239.html

gs doesn't handle unicode-filename

2009-05-11 Thread Werner
Unfortunately gs seems to be unable to deal with unicode-filenames... u...@suse10-3:~/noten/lilypond lilypond Ča_ča_ča-in-B.ly GNU LilyPond 2.12.2 »Ča_ča_ča-in-B.ly« wird verarbeitet Analysieren... Interpretation der Musik...[8] Vorverarbeitung der grafischen Elemente... Ideale Seitenanzahl wird

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/5/11 Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se: Here, I would rather say \new Staff {  \autoBeamOff \new Voice = mel { \chorus }  \new Voice = vs {\verse} } That is clearer, yes. I'm still a bit shaky about when I can cascade things in sequence and when I can't. The rule so far seems to be

Re: Newbie Question -- verse and chorus

2009-05-11 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 11.05.2009 um 20:24 schrieb Tim Rowe: The only thing wrong is that the verse starts with an anacrusis -- a pickup beat, for which I've used \partial. The notes look perfect, but the bar numbering is wrong because it's treating the incomplete bar at the end of the chorus and the completion in

Re: gs doesn't handle unicode-filename

2009-05-11 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 11.05.2009 um 23:58 schrieb Werner: Unfortunately gs seems to be unable to deal with unicode-filenames... Any hints? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user I just stopped