Multiple scores(movements) on one page

2009-06-02 Thread Akira
I'm afraid you can't understand this mail because of my poor English.
Please look at the picture at:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Rub71FvXx30/SiTo4l9iACI/ABI/7lYeF1QLflY/s800/ImageMovements.JPG

I'm writing a suite that consists of 3 movements (Holst's First Suite) .

I want to print the first movement on the first page , the second
movement and the third movement on the second page ,and the rest of
third movement on the third page.

So I wrote like this:

--
\bookpart {
\header {
title = \markup {First Suite in E \super \flat for Military Band}
composer = \markup {Gustav Holst}
subtitle = I. Chaconne.
}

\score {

\new Staff \FirstMov

}
}


\bookpart {
\header {
subtitle = II. Intermezzo.
}

\score {

\new Staff \SecondMov

}
}

\bookpart {
\header {
subtitle = III. March.
}

\score {

\new Staff \ThirdMov

}
}
--
But on Lilypond's output there were the first movement on the first
page,the second movement on second page,the third movement on the
third and forth page.

What should I write?
Please tell me.


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Re: Multiple scores(movements) on one page

2009-06-02 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/2 Akira i.love.the.pika...@gmail.com:
 I'm afraid you can't understand this mail because of my poor English.
 Please look at the picture at:
 http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Rub71FvXx30/SiTo4l9iACI/ABI/7lYeF1QLflY/s800/ImageMovements.JPG

 I'm writing a suite that consists of 3 movements (Holst's First Suite) .

 I want to print the first movement on the first page , the second
 movement and the third movement on the second page ,and the rest of
 third movement on the third page.

 So I wrote like this:

 --
 \bookpart {
 \header {
 title = \markup {First Suite in E \super \flat for Military Band}
 composer = \markup {Gustav Holst}
 subtitle = I. Chaconne.
 }

 \score {
 
 \new Staff \FirstMov

 }
 }


 \bookpart {
 \header {
 subtitle = II. Intermezzo.
 }

 \score {
 
 \new Staff \SecondMov

 }
 }

 \bookpart {

This bookpart produces your unwanted page break (That's what bookparts
are intended for)

Just put the scores for II. and III. into the same bookpart.
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Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-02 Thread Jean-Alexis Montignies

Hi there, as a jazz player I would like to share my input.

What I need in scores is really chord names.
The chord name denotes the intent of the composer and is much subject  
to interpretation.


Some examples:
If you have a dominant chord, you write G7. Most of the time, the  
pianist will not play the 5th and depending on the context will play a  
9th or a flattened 9th.
If you write G7b9, it just means that if you play a 9th, you should  
play a flattened one (probably the melody have a flattened 9th).
In the real book, most 7b5 chords should really be written 7#11, but  
this is another story.

I found a score where a chord was named 'phrygian'.

The problem I ran when i wrote chords in Lilypond:

1) I had some difficulties to write the Alt chords (for me it's based  
on the superlocrian scale 1 2- 2+ 3 4+ 6- (or 5+) 7-)  because the  
scale has two seconds. (Note that the diminished scale cannot be  
written for now with the chord notation, if you ever want to write a 8  
note chord ;) ).
2) There no way to write N.C. : no chord (wouldn't the use of R, r and  
s make sense in the chord mode?)
3) I had to use some tricks for chords that last on several measures  
for the symbol not to repeat on each measure.
4) I would have liked to use parenthesis around the column for chord  
extensions like in most jazz charts. I used brackets instead.


Lilypond of other programs will never be able to interpret notes as  
chords (even humans can't do that because there are always ambiguities).


I think the more sensitive approach for pop and jazz is a chord  
library with a string as input (maj7) and as output a notation as  
markup for chord symbol, optionally as a realisation as notes or chord  
diagram (could even have options to select or override the realisation).


I myself need only the chord symbol. Such a simple model is in my  
opinion simple to use, customizable and extends easily to other  
musics. For me the chord name is more semantics than just notes.


You'll find my current chord exception list below, note that i've used  
the unicode chars for the flat and sharp before the extensions as it  
gives a very natural layout in this case.


Greetings!

Jean-Alexis Montignies



% write out all custom exceptions here:
customChordExceptions =
{
% from ionian
c e g b- \markup { maj7 }
c e g b d'- \markup { maj9 }

%   from mixolydian
c e g bf- 7
c e g bf d'- 9
c e g bf d' a'- 13
c f g bf- 7sus4

%   from locrian
c ef gf bf- ø
%c ef gf bf- m7b5

%   from locrian ♮9
c ef gf bf d'- \markup { ø \hspace #1 \super \bracket ♮9 }

% from dorian
c ef g bf- m7
c ef g bf d'- m9
c ef g bf d' f'- m11

% from myxolydian b13 (MM5)
c e g bf af'- \markup { 7 \hspace #1 \super \bracket ♭13}

% from myxolydian #11
c e g bf fs'- \markup { 7 \hspace #1 \super \bracket ♯11}

% from lydian
c e g b fs'- \markup { maj9 \hspace #1 \super \bracket♯11 }

% from diminished scale (1/2 - T)
c ef gf bff- ○7

% from T-1/2T symetrical scale
 c e g bf df' a'- \markup { 13 \hspace #1 \super \bracket ♭9}

% from HM5 (mixolydian b9 b13)
c f g bf df'- \markup { 7sus4 \hspace #1 \super \bracket  
♭9 }

c e g bf df' af'- \markup
{ 7
\hspace #1 \bracket {
\fontsize #-3 { \override #'(direction . 1) \dir-column {
  \line { ♭9 }
  \line { ♭13 }
}  }
}
 }

% from superlocrian (MM7)
c e g bf ds'- \markup { 7 \hspace #1 \super \bracket ♯9}

c e g bf df' fs'- \markup
{ 7
\hspace #1 \bracket {
\fontsize #-3 { \override #'(direction . 1) \dir-column {
  \line { ♭9 }
  \line { ♯11 }
}  }
}
 }

c ef g bf df' ff'- \markup
{ 7
\hspace #1 \bracket {
\fontsize #-3 { \override #'(direction . 1) \dir-column {
  \line { ♭9 }
  \line { ♯9 }
}  }
}
 }
c e g bf ds' af'- \markup
{ 7
\hspace #1 \bracket {
\fontsize #-3 { \override #'(direction . 1) \dir-column {
  \line { ♯9 }
  \line { ♭13 }
}  }
}
 }

c ef gf bf df' ff' af'- 7alt

% from lydian augmented
c e gs b- \markup { maj7 \hspace #1 \super \bracket♯5}

}

% add custom exceptions to existing exceptions:
newChordExceptionList = #(append
 (sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions customChordExceptions #t)
 ignatzekExceptions)



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Re: Better MIDI

2009-06-02 Thread Peter Chubb
 Peter == Peter Chubb lily.u...@chubb.wattle.id.au writes:

Peter Hi,

Peter   I've put up a page on how to get more realistic sounding MIDI
Peter output from current LilyPond, along with the scripts and scheme
Peter code used, at http://www.nicta.com.au/people/chubbp/articulate

And I've now fixed the permissions on the download link there.  Sorry
for the bother before.

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SeparationItem bug?

2009-06-02 Thread Vivian Barty-Taylor
I can't get the SeparationItem spacing tweak to work in 2.12.2 (on  
OSX). See code and attached PNG. Does anyone have any suggestions as  
to an alternative workaround?


Thanks,

Vivian.

 Begin Lilypond snippet

\include header.ly

\score {

\new Staff { \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #20 c4 d }

}

 End Lilypond snippet

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Re: SeparationItem bug?

2009-06-02 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/2 Vivian Barty-Taylor vivbartytay...@yahoo.co.uk:
 I can't get the SeparationItem spacing tweak to work in 2.12.2 (on OSX). See
 code and attached PNG. Does anyone have any suggestions as to an alternative
 workaround?

it is now called Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn
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Optional notation

2009-06-02 Thread Robert Querner
In the Menuet in chapter 7 of AM Bach's notebook from 1725 there is an
optional triolet 

 
I don't seem to be able to work out how to get this into the score.
 
Any suggestions?
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Re: Optional notation

2009-06-02 Thread Jonathan Kulp

Robert Querner wrote:

In the Menuet in chapter 7 of AM Bach's notebook from 1725 there is an
optional triolet 

 
I don't seem to be able to work out how to get this into the score.
 
Any suggestions?




It's a bit hard to see in that image but it looks as if the first half 
of the beam is solid and the second half has breaks in it. Is that what 
you're trying to achieve?


Jon

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RE: Optional notation

2009-06-02 Thread Robert
The beam for between the 2nd and 3rd note is dashed, the 3rd note smaller
and the phrasing slur is dashed too.

-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+robert.64=dbmail@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+robert.64=dbmail@gnu.org] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Kulp
Sent: 02 June 2009 13:36
To: Robert Querner
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Optional notation


Robert Querner wrote:
 In the Menuet in chapter 7 of AM Bach's notebook from 1725 there is an 
 optional triolet
 
  
 I don't seem to be able to work out how to get this into the score.
  
 Any suggestions?
 

It's a bit hard to see in that image but it looks as if the first half of
the beam is solid and the second half has breaks in it. Is that what you're
trying to achieve?

Jon

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Re: Optional notation

2009-06-02 Thread Jonathan Kulp

Robert wrote:

The beam for between the 2nd and 3rd note is dashed, the 3rd note smaller
and the phrasing slur is dashed too.



This is not good enough but maybe it'll give some ideas.  I have the 
feeling that some scheme is necessary but I don't know how to do it. My 
first thought on how to do it is to have two voices with the same notes 
but with different properties. In one voice, the beam will be solid but 
only connect the first two notes, and in the other voice, the beam will 
be dashed going from the first to third notes of the triplet. The solid 
beam will hide the dashed beam between 1st and 2nd notes, but you'll be 
able to see the dashed beams between 2nd and 3rd notes. The dashed slur 
and smaller notehead are easy.  The main problem is I've never seen a 
dashed beam in lilypond before.  Anyway here's my time-rushed attempt 
using only one voice and a partial beam. It might look nearly decent if 
you adjust the beam slant on the 3rd note.


Jon

\version 2.12.1

\relative c'' {
  \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
  \times 2/3{\slurDashed c8([ d] \set fontSize = #-2
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #0 e[])} \unset fontSize f,4
}


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Re: Optional notation

2009-06-02 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op dinsdag 02 juni 2009, schreef Jonathan Kulp:
 \version 2.12.1

 \relative c'' {
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
\times 2/3{\slurDashed c8([ d] \set fontSize = #-2
\set stemRightBeamCount = #0 e[])} \unset fontSize f,4
 }

this one has the small beam in the same slope as the other one, and uses a 
(more modern) tuplet bracket (instead of the slur), which is dashed to 
indicate it's optionality.

\version 2.12.1

\relative c'' {
  \once \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
  \once \override TupletBracket #'style = #'dashed-line
  \once \override TupletBracket #'dash-period = #1
  \once \override TupletBracket #'dash-fraction = #1/6
  \times 2/3 {
c8[
\set stemRightBeamCount = #0
d
\teeny
e]
  }
  \normalsize
  f,4
}

best regards,
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Re: Compiling files with lots of data

2009-06-02 Thread Mike Solomon
Hey,
The piece is not from MIDI input, but rather was generated
algorithmically in Python (thus the rigidity of the layout that you picked
up on).  All of the spaces are intentional.  In my newest attempted compile
of the work (I killed the old one in a fit of self doubt), I removed the
beam engraver and the stem engraver in addition to the bar engraver.  I also
changed all of the 32nd notes to quarter notes (as every note in the piece
was a 32nd note, they are all now quarter notes).  So, to summarize:
Bar_engraver gone
Stem_engraver gone
Beam_engraver gone
proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
Slightly more than 2*(3**7) quarter notes (without stems)
Grob count: 24833

On hour 15 of my new compile...  Keep the suggestions coming!

~Mike


On 6/2/09 12:17 AM, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 is this from midi input?
 
 if so you should be sure to apply appropriate --allow-tuplet= options.
 also, funny durations like s32*231 could indicate some kind of grace notes
 in the original music
 
 see 
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Invoking-mid
 i2ly
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Invoking-mid
 i2ly 
 for more details
 furthermore, specific Voice options - eg. \voiceOne - should be added
 manually




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Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 6/2/09 3:55 AM, Jean-Alexis Montignies j...@sente.ch wrote:

 Hi there, as a jazz player I would like to share my input.

Thanks for sharing, Jean-Alexis.

 
 What I need in scores is really chord names.
 The chord name denotes the intent of the composer and is much subject
 to interpretation.
 
 Some examples:
 If you have a dominant chord, you write G7. Most of the time, the
 pianist will not play the 5th and depending on the context will play a
 9th or a flattened 9th.
 If you write G7b9, it just means that if you play a 9th, you should
 play a flattened one (probably the melody have a flattened 9th).
 In the real book, most 7b5 chords should really be written 7#11, but
 this is another story.
 I found a score where a chord was named 'phrygian'.
 
 The problem I ran when i wrote chords in Lilypond:
 
 1) I had some difficulties to write the Alt chords (for me it's based
 on the superlocrian scale 1 2- 2+ 3 4+ 6- (or 5+) 7-)  because the
 scale has two seconds. (Note that the diminished scale cannot be
 written for now with the chord notation, if you ever want to write a 8
 note chord ;) ).

This an issue in chord input mode, and should be reported to bug-lilypond as
an enhancement request.  For you, the limitation of only one instance of
each step in a chord is a limitation.

 2) There no way to write N.C. : no chord (wouldn't the use of R, r and
 s make sense in the chord mode?)

N.C. is implemented for r in chordNames context starting with 2.13.1.  It
will be available in the next development version.  Support for generating
N.C. with R is planned.  I don't think that s should generate N.C.; s means
don't output anything.

 3) I had to use some tricks for chords that last on several measures
 for the symbol not to repeat on each measure.

\set ChordChanges = ##t is all that it takes.

 4) I would have liked to use parenthesis around the column for chord
 extensions like in most jazz charts. I used brackets instead.

I hope we'll be able to implement this, but if we don't, remind us again.

 
 Lilypond of other programs will never be able to interpret notes as
 chords (even humans can't do that because there are always ambiguities).
 
 I think the more sensitive approach for pop and jazz is a chord
 library with a string as input (maj7) and as output a notation as
 markup for chord symbol, optionally as a realisation as notes or chord
 diagram (could even have options to select or override the realisation).

That's what we have in essence with our current chordmode.  The string has
some specific syntax, and it provides realization as notes, chord diagrams,
and chord names.  But the chord names functionality isn't what we want right
now.

 
 I myself need only the chord symbol. Such a simple model is in my
 opinion simple to use, customizable and extends easily to other
 musics. For me the chord name is more semantics than just notes.
 
 You'll find my current chord exception list below, note that i've used
 the unicode chars for the flat and sharp before the extensions as it
 gives a very natural layout in this case.

Thank you for this exception list.  It provides a nice reference.

The major problem with an exception list is that it doesn't handle slash
chords; I hope to be able fix that.


Thanks,

Carl



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RE: Optional notation

2009-06-02 Thread Robert
I forgot to tell that this particular score was written in the old C clef :)

Anyway, a bit of fiddling around with the various solutions proposed, I
found that this gives the desired result:

\times 2/3 { \slurDashed a8[( \set stemRightBeamCount = #0 b  \teeny c)]}
\normalsize d,4 fis |

Thanks for the precious help.

Robert

-Original Message-
From: Wilbert Berendsen [mailto:lily...@xs4all.nl] 
Sent: 02 June 2009 14:57
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Cc: Jonathan Kulp; Robert
Subject: Re: Optional notation


Op dinsdag 02 juni 2009, schreef Jonathan Kulp:
 \version 2.12.1

 \relative c'' {
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
\times 2/3{\slurDashed c8([ d] \set fontSize = #-2
\set stemRightBeamCount = #0 e[])} \unset fontSize f,4 }

this one has the small beam in the same slope as the other one, and uses a
(more modern) tuplet bracket (instead of the slur), which is dashed to
indicate it's optionality.

\version 2.12.1

\relative c'' {
  \once \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
  \once \override TupletBracket #'style = #'dashed-line
  \once \override TupletBracket #'dash-period = #1
  \once \override TupletBracket #'dash-fraction = #1/6
  \times 2/3 {
c8[
\set stemRightBeamCount = #0
d
\teeny
e]
  }
  \normalsize
  f,4
}

best regards,
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Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-02 Thread Tim McNamara


On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:55 AM, Jean-Alexis Montignies wrote:


Hi there, as a jazz player I would like to share my input.

What I need in scores is really chord names.
The chord name denotes the intent of the composer and is much  
subject to interpretation.


Some examples:
If you have a dominant chord, you write G7. Most of the time, the  
pianist will not play the 5th and depending on the context will  
play a 9th or a flattened 9th.
If you write G7b9, it just means that if you play a 9th, you should  
play a flattened one (probably the melody have a flattened 9th).
In the real book, most 7b5 chords should really be written 7#11,  
but this is another story.

I found a score where a chord was named 'phrygian'.

The problem I ran when i wrote chords in Lilypond:

1) I had some difficulties to write the Alt chords (for me it's  
based on the superlocrian scale 1 2- 2+ 3 4+ 6- (or 5+) 7-)   
because the scale has two seconds. (Note that the diminished scale  
cannot be written for now with the chord notation, if you ever want  
to write a 8 note chord ;) ).
2) There no way to write N.C. : no chord (wouldn't the use of R, r  
and s make sense in the chord mode?)




The plan per Carl or someone is to add a N.C. function to the  
chordmode using r as the input; it will be folded into 2.13 IIRC.


This can currently be done with a workaround provided to me by a very  
generous list member:


\version 2.12.2

% Whiteout hide the chordname
NCString  = { c e g-\markup { \whiteout { \hspace #-2  N.C. }}}
ChrdExcep = #(append (sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions NCString #t)
   ignatzekExceptions)

% Example
% {
% {
% \chords {
%  a2:m7 d2:7.9-
%  g2:m7 c2:7
%  \set   chordNameExceptions = #ChrdExcep c1 %chord c e g as NCString
%  \unset chordNameExceptions
%  a2:m7 d2:7.9-
%   }
% }
 % \relative c' {  a'2 d2 g,2 c2 c4 c4 c4 c4  a2 }
% 
% }


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Re: Better MIDI

2009-06-02 Thread hhpmusic
Dear Peter:

 And I've now fixed the permissions on the download link there.  Sorry for the 
 bother before.

Thank you very much, but I still can't access the here link. The web can't 
find the page, even though I registered. How to get the file?

Haipeng

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article (in German) about copyright of printed music

2009-06-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG

This `good' Wikipedia article

  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechtsschutz_von_Schriftzeichen

also discusses printed music.  Quite interesting to read...

This article should probably translated into English :-)


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Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-02 Thread Jean-Alexis Montignies


1) I had some difficulties to write the Alt chords (for me it's based
on the superlocrian scale 1 2- 2+ 3 4+ 6- (or 5+) 7-)  because the
scale has two seconds. (Note that the diminished scale cannot be
written for now with the chord notation, if you ever want to write  
a 8

note chord ;) ).


This an issue in chord input mode, and should be reported to bug- 
lilypond as
an enhancement request.  For you, the limitation of only one  
instance of

each step in a chord is a limitation.
Well for this specific case, I used a 3- and a 4- as a workaround, so  
it's not a issue for me.




2) There no way to write N.C. : no chord (wouldn't the use of R, r  
and

s make sense in the chord mode?)


N.C. is implemented for r in chordNames context starting with  
2.13.1.  It
will be available in the next development version.  Support for  
generating
N.C. with R is planned.  I don't think that s should generate N.C.;  
s means

don't output anything.


That's how I though about it, good!


3) I had to use some tricks for chords that last on several measures
for the symbol not to repeat on each measure.


\set ChordChanges = ##t is all that it takes.

Uh, it would have saved me some time :)



4) I would have liked to use parenthesis around the column for chord
extensions like in most jazz charts. I used brackets instead.


I hope we'll be able to implement this, but if we don't, remind us  
again.

A parenthesis function that works like brackets would do it!





Lilypond of other programs will never be able to interpret notes as
chords (even humans can't do that because there are always  
ambiguities).


I think the more sensitive approach for pop and jazz is a chord
library with a string as input (maj7) and as output a notation as
markup for chord symbol, optionally as a realisation as notes or  
chord
diagram (could even have options to select or override the  
realisation).


That's what we have in essence with our current chordmode.  The  
string has
some specific syntax, and it provides realization as notes, chord  
diagrams,
and chord names.  But the chord names functionality isn't what we  
want right

now.

The problem now is that you have to write the realization to get the  
chord name. Thinking the other way around is more logical from the  
composer point of view, in jazz at least. (or let the realization up  
to the interpreter).

So add me to the list of people who prefer chord names over chord tones!



I myself need only the chord symbol. Such a simple model is in my
opinion simple to use, customizable and extends easily to other
musics. For me the chord name is more semantics than just notes.

You'll find my current chord exception list below, note that i've  
used

the unicode chars for the flat and sharp before the extensions as it
gives a very natural layout in this case.


Thank you for this exception list.  It provides a nice reference.

The major problem with an exception list is that it doesn't handle  
slash

chords; I hope to be able fix that.

I'm using exception with slash chords and have no problems.
However I don't think there is  a way of entering polychords chords.  
(I don't need that -yet- :) ).






Thanks,

Carl


Jean-Alexis

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Re: emacs lilypond-mode

2009-06-02 Thread Thomas
Moin Helge,
thanks for the tip ... I'm still thinking about that 
at least now I have some direction where to look for
the error
cheers
thomas

Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4a237fba.4080...@gmx.net...
 Moin Thomas,

 Error codes are created by the operating system and reported by the 
 application. The error code may be dependent on the context.

 The context that you reported looks like a CreateFile 
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363858(VS.85).aspx context. In 
 this case it means ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND 
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms681382.aspx;, the system cannot 
 find the file specified. That's in contrast to error code 3 
 ERROR_PATH_NOT_FOUND, so only your file name is incorrect.

 Regards,
 Helge

 Thomas wrote:
 PS
 somebody out there must know what error code 2 in the lilypond-context 
 means ... I even searched the .el files, but no result
 or is this an emacs error? would be at least interesting, if not helpfull 
 to find that out...
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Re: Better MIDI

2009-06-02 Thread Hans Aberg

On 2 Jun 2009, at 01:29, Peter Chubb wrote:


 I've put up a page on how to get more realistic sounding MIDI output
 from current LilyPond, along with the scripts and scheme code used,  
at

 http://www.nicta.com.au/people/chubbp/articulate


(Isn't there a timing problem at the second triplet?)

If it is possible to do it, it might be great to be able to do the  
timing on per note and note-group basis - for interpretation and also  
generating feedback on what values to choose.


Also, the typesetting program has a cool feature where notes written  
with equal time can be swinged. - Some guys on the Usenet newsgroup  
rec.music.theory found this feature great for experimenting with.



 ...I'd also like to do something about trills and turns with
 alterations, and do a better calculation for trill duration.


One problem with those is that in LilyPond code one does not write  
them in the diatonic note system, as the other notes, but only  
graphically.


  Hans




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Re: Better MIDI

2009-06-02 Thread Peter Chubb
 Hans == Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se writes:

Hans On 2 Jun 2009, at 01:29, Peter Chubb wrote:
 I've put up a page on how to get more realistic sounding MIDI
 output from current LilyPond, along with the scripts and scheme
 code used, at http://www.nicta.com.au/people/chubbp/articulate

Hans (Isn't there a timing problem at the second triplet?)

There is --- it's to do the gruppetto at the end of the trill, that
seems to interfere with the first note of the triplet in the MIDI
output.  It's not something I can fix with articulate.

Hans If it is possible to do it, it might be great to be able to do
Hans the timing on per note and note-group basis - for interpretation
Hans and also generating feedback on what values to choose.

Not sure what you mean here --- can you elaborate?

Hans Also, the typesetting program has a cool feature where notes
Hans written with equal time can be swinged. - Some guys on the
Hans Usenet newsgroup rec.music.theory found this feature great for
Hans experimenting with.

actually, LilyPond can't do this yet.  I wish it could.


 ...I'd also like to do something about trills and turns with
 alterations, and do a better calculation for trill duration.

Hans One problem with those is that in LilyPond code one does not
Hans write them in the diatonic note system, as the other notes, but
Hans only graphically.

Indeed.  The same is true for most of the other marks that
`articulate' deals with.  Unfortunately there are no standard ways of
marking that there's a `flat' symbol above the ornament symbol and a
`natural' below; there are several ways depending on context.

--
Dr Peter Chubb  http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au  peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au
http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au   ERTOS within National ICT Australia


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Re: Better MIDI

2009-06-02 Thread Peter Chubb
 hhpmusic == hhpmusic  hhpmu...@163.com writes:


 And I've now fixed the permissions on the download link there.
 Sorry for the bother before.

hhpmusic Thank you very much, but I still can't access the here
hhpmusic link. The web can't find the page, even though I
hhpmusic registered. How to get the file?

Try shift-reload , you're probably still getting a cached version of
the page.

Peter C

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thanks to whomever put this in the LSR...

2009-06-02 Thread chip
I was just browsing around in the LSR and found this very useful bit 
that is just fantastic, I hadn't come across it in any docs - LM, NR, or 
IR (I did a browser Edit/Find for output-suffix on all of those) -


#(define output-suffix you-put-something-here)


It's for use in a multi-bookpart .ly file that generates multiple .pdf 
files. Typically the file names are appended with -1, -2, -3, etc which 
isn't very helpful. That little bit of code lets you append any bit of 
text to the file name, so instead of


filename-1.pdf

you get

filename-you-put-something-here-1.pdf

Here's where it's located to save someone the time to dig it up - 
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=389


I don't know who added this to the LSR, but Thankyou very much, you just 
saved me much extra work as I have had to manually edit many, many file 
names to include the instrument name for that particular part.


Regards,
Chip


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