Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-09 Thread bruys .
Hello Michael,
I know next to nothing about JEdit, except that it installed on my
(Windows) system without any difficulty. No-one else has replied, so I
thought I'd mention that a few more details are probably required
before anyone can help. It would appear that JEdit is not finding a
necessary file, which indicates that something might have gone wrong
with installation, prerequisite files are missing or not on the path
searched by JEdit.
I would think that the operating system you are using, what
instructions you followed to install the software, and at what stage
you get the error would all be relevant.
Perhaps it is something as simple as needing to configure JEdit to
find your pdf reader or Lilypond:
http://lilypondtool.blogspot.com/p/install-configure.html
Regards,
bruys

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just started using JEdit and the LilypondTools provided as a plug-in for
 that editor. Everytime I use it though, I keep getting the follwoing error:
 java.io IOException:error=2, No such file or directory   - Any help
 resolving this would be appreciated. Thanks.

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 In Christ,
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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-09 Thread Nick Payne
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I just started using JEdit and the LilypondTools provided as a plug-in for
that editor. Everytime I use it though, I keep getting the follwoing error:
java.io IOException:error=2, No such file or directory   - Any help
resolving this would be appreciated. Thanks.
In the options for Lilypondtool in jEdit (Plugins / Plugin Options 
/LilypondTool / Commands), do you have the correct path to the Lilypond 
binary. You should also have the jEdit SideKick plugin installed and the 
option Parse on keystroke checked.


Nick

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Spacing broken tie away from key signature

2011-04-09 Thread Nick Payne
When a tie is broken across staves, the second part of the tie defaults 
to starting right at the key signature. How can I move it slightly away? 
Setting extra-spacing-width for the KeySignature moves the first note 
further away but doesn't move the starting point of the broken tie. I 
also played around with the various space-alist values for KeySignature 
without being able to move the tie. When I look at commercial scores I 
have, there is usually about one staff unit space between the key 
signature and broken tie in this situation


version 2.13.58

notes = \relative c'' {
c1 ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c 
~ c ~ c

}

\score {

\new Staff {
\key g \major
\notes
}

\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\override KeySignature #'extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 4)
}
}
}

Nick

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Re: Dividing ties and adjusting ties in an arpeggiated chord

2011-04-09 Thread -Eluze


bruys . wrote:
 
 Hello Again,
 
 Part 2: If I put each part into a separate voice context, the ties are
 in the right direction, but otherwise it's a real mess.
 
 
i tried another approach starting from your original code:

since the tie of the d'' goes thru the fis'' it looks a bit funny if you
just hide the part colliding with the note - rather it is more appropriate
to start the tie under the fis'' on the correct pitch level.

my solution:

arpeggiatedchord = {
  \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % as notes intervene before the ties end
  \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
  \grace {
\once \override Tie #'control-points = #'((1 . 1) (2 . 1) (5 . 2) (9.5 .
1.2))
\once \override Tie  #'dash-definition = #'((0.0 0.3 0 0) (0.3 1.0 1 1))
d''16_~ [
fis''16~
b'16^~
d'16_~
\once \override Tie  #'minimum-length = #2.5
gis'16~
]  
  }
  \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0
  d'' fis'' b' d' gis'4
}

\score {
  \arpeggiatedchord
}
http://old.nabble.com/file/p31358219/test.png 

of course there is a lot of manual work behind this!
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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread Music Teacher
I feel this is quite the point. Mutopia is a very nice project, no
doubt. But a repository only with ly-files would be also very helpful,
in conjonction (does it exist?) with a lily-fonction to translate
notes names from one language t another (I got used to netherland
notes names, and i dislike now to work in a ly file with french names)
:-O
Greetings,

Francois

2011/4/8, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com:
 Why not to setup a git repository with the ly files?
 It would be also useful for test new releases of Lilypond?

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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread steve


 Unfortunately, there is an obvious error in Bach Goldberg
Aria bar 18 that I have seen propagated to several other versions
that have used this as source. Not good.

   -steve

 2011/4/8 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com

 2011/4/8 steve st...@linuxsuite.org:
  Howdy!
 
    Hope this isn't too OT, but can't get any info anywhere else..
 
    What is the status of the mutopiaproject http://mutopiaproject.org
 ??
 
    I have discovered errors in goldberg aria, reported them to
  all contacts, even added corrected source files. Also just
  recently tried to subscribe to mailing list at mutopiaproject and
  the subscription request(s) bounced!!  This has been going on
  for at least a year. No corrections, no acknowledgement, no contact
  at all??
 
     Is this project dead?

 Sadly yes it is, in practice.  Latest updates are dec 2010 (four
 posts). Any posts previous to those 4 are a year old.  I'd love that
 Petrucci Music Library http://imslp.org/wiki/ supported maintaining of
 source lilypond files in the same site.  Sceaux and others just link
 to their own sites for sources.

 At least we can be thankful that the project website is still available...

 Maybe it is a good thing that freely available scores mix scanned and
 typeset documents whatever their origin or the software used; but no
 doubt that completely free scores are only possible if you have the
 source _and_ the typesetting engine is free as in freedom (i.e. Finale
 documents are useless for me for a triple reason: I need a costly
 software to see them, even if a viewer is available at zero cost I
 still can not hack the score, and even if I could, I am not free
 because that viewer is prorietary software).

 Any Linux user has at least one more reason - finale doesn't run on
 Linux...

 cheers,
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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread Music Teacher
Out of topic??? Tis lilypond and the thread is mutopia, what that???

2011/4/8, st...@linuxsuite.org st...@linuxsuite.org:


  Unfortunately, there is an obvious error in Bach Goldberg
 Aria bar 18 that I have seen propagated to several other versions
 that have used this as source. Not good.

-steve

 2011/4/8 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com

 2011/4/8 steve st...@linuxsuite.org:
  Howdy!
 
    Hope this isn't too OT, but can't get any info anywhere else..
 
    What is the status of the mutopiaproject http://mutopiaproject.org
 ??
 
    I have discovered errors in goldberg aria, reported them to
  all contacts, even added corrected source files. Also just
  recently tried to subscribe to mailing list at mutopiaproject and
  the subscription request(s) bounced!!  This has been going on
  for at least a year. No corrections, no acknowledgement, no contact
  at all??
 
     Is this project dead?

 Sadly yes it is, in practice.  Latest updates are dec 2010 (four
 posts). Any posts previous to those 4 are a year old.  I'd love that
 Petrucci Music Library http://imslp.org/wiki/ supported maintaining of
 source lilypond files in the same site.  Sceaux and others just link
 to their own sites for sources.

 At least we can be thankful that the project website is still available...

 Maybe it is a good thing that freely available scores mix scanned and
 typeset documents whatever their origin or the software used; but no
 doubt that completely free scores are only possible if you have the
 source _and_ the typesetting engine is free as in freedom (i.e. Finale
 documents are useless for me for a triple reason: I need a costly
 software to see them, even if a viewer is available at zero cost I
 still can not hack the score, and even if I could, I am not free
 because that viewer is prorietary software).

 Any Linux user has at least one more reason - finale doesn't run on
 Linux...

 cheers,
 Janek



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Re: Installing custom font for Lilypond

2011-04-09 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 09.04.2011 04:50, schrieb Aleksandr Andreev:

Hello folks,

Basically, I'm trying to create a library of Lilypond scores with some of my
collaborators and I'd like to automate the process. I've installed Lilypond on
my server and I've allowed each user to drop Lilypond source files via a Perl
script. The script then calls Lilypond and voila, a PDF, PNG and MIDI all 
appear.

However, much of the music we're working with is Russian Orthodox chant and so
it is in Church Slavonic. Thus, I'm trying to install a custom font on the
server to properly render the Slavonic characters. Within the Lilypond source,
the user sets the desired font name.

I've placed the font into the /usr/share/ghostscript/8.70/Resource/Font/ folder
and then I've modified the Fontmap.GS file in
/usr/share/ghostscript/8.70/Resource/Init/ folder. However, Lilypond still does
not use the font.


You can check the list of fonts known to lilypond via

lilypond -dshow-available-fonts

If your font isn't listed there, lilypond will not find it.

Normally, you don't have to move the font into a special directory,
just install it system-wide, and it should work out of the box, IIRC.

HTH,

Marc



Is there something else I need to modify? Do I also need to place the font in
the /usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/ folder?

Thanks for any help!



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Re: programming error: cannot align on self: empty element

2011-04-09 Thread madMuze

 \tempo 4 = 72
 \override Score.MetronomeMark #'stencil = ##f

Nick, I've been using:

tpoMidi = #(define-music-function (parser location bUnit rayt) (number?
number?)
#{
\once \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t
\set Score.tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment $rayt $bUnit)
#}
)

Perhaps you just need to use the ...tempoHideNote... instead of spiking the
MetronomeMark. This function is very limited and won't deal with dotted
values, but I can figure out the undotted rate 1000s of times faster than
writing the necessary code, so there it sits. I have no provenance on this
code; I suspect it came from this forum.
David


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Re:status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello,

one thing I missed last time we were discussing the future of Mutopia, was
to thank Chris for his wonderful work in recent years.

I wanted to write a post to this group, but remembered that friends, which I
wanted to draw to Lilypond are also interested in my reflections. So I
posted them on my blog: Q: Is there a future for free Lilypond scores and
Mutopia? at:
http://hajos-kontrapunkte.blogspot.com/2011/04/q-is-there-future-for-free-lilypond.html

Here are some points concerning Mutopia: (copy and paste)

What I would propose:

- The depositary should be locate on one site.
- Contributors should be responsible for their files
- Contributers should identify themselves by real names
- Contributers should be able with the help of software to produce from
their ly-file a uniform
  presentation of the music (comparable to Mutopia)
- Contributors should be able to make their own corrections to their
submitted file.
- Mutopia files should be converted and write protected
- Software: Could be a Wiki (with login) or Google code / project
(like solfege resources or . Frescobaldi) or ... (but please not git)

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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/4/9 Hajo Dezelski dl1...@googlemail.com:
 - The depositary should be locate on one site.
 - Contributors should be responsible for their files
 - Contributers should identify themselves by real names
 - Contributers should be able with the help of software to produce from
 their ly-file a uniform
   presentation of the music (comparable to Mutopia)
 - Contributors should be able to make their own corrections to their
 submitted file.
 - Mutopia files should be converted and write protected
 - Software: Could be a Wiki (with login) or Google code / project
 (like solfege resources or . Frescobaldi) or ... (but please not git)


I think all these points are all good. The idea of a maintainer for
each score is very nice, so the work is distributed and each has its
own responsibility.

If its possible to download all the material (it is?) would be very
simple to set up a mercurial repository at google code or bitbucket,
if you do not like git.

Actually bitbucket has unlimited size, so we can even add the pdf files there.

best,
bernardo

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Old English font for titles

2011-04-09 Thread Laura Conrad

Back in the olden days, lilypond-book only set the music, and left the
titling to the publishing program.  I produced a book of Drinking Songs
in LaTeX, with the titles in hge, an Old English font derived from the
Hershey font.

I now want to do an updated version of this book.  I would like the
titles to still be in some old-english-like font.  I'm not asking here
as a criticism of the documentation, but because I have a deadline
tomorrow.

I need to figure out:

1.  How to tell lilypond how to use a particular font for titles.  It
would be preferable to have a variable that I could set for all my
files, so that saying:

 title = He that would an alehouse keep

 would produce a title in Old English, rather than having to say for
 every piece:

 title = \markup{[some font specification]{He that would an
 alehouse keep}}

 But I'll take what I can get.

2. How to install an Old English like font onto my ubuntu 10.10 system
   that I can use the above trick on.  It looks like finding one should
   be easier than turning the hge.mf file I have into something that
   current lilypond could make use of, but so far I haven't figured out
   how to do either one.  Can anyone help?

Thanks,
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swing rhythm in midi output?

2011-04-09 Thread Marc Mouries
Is possible to write regular eight notes and set settings in midi output to 
generate a swing rhythm like?

inline: SwingRhythm.gif

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Re: Old English font for titles

2011-04-09 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2011-04-09 um 17:32 schrieb Laura Conrad:


1.  How to tell lilypond how to use a particular font for titles.


\header{
 title = \markup{\override #'(font-name . Old English) Your Title}
}


It
   would be preferable to have a variable that I could set for all my
   files, so that saying:


For my setup I redefined the whole titling, see bookTitleMarkup in the  
paper block:

http://git.fiee.net/?p=lilystuff.git;a=blob_plain;f=global.ly;hb=HEAD


2. How to install an Old English like font onto my ubuntu 10.10 system
  that I can use the above trick on.  It looks like finding one should
  be easier than turning the hge.mf file I have into something that
  current lilypond could make use of, but so far I haven't figured out
  how to do either one.  Can anyone help?


Pango (LilyPond’s font library) should find every font that is  
installed normally in your system, so I guess your questions are:


- Where do I find a suitable font?
-- e.g. at dafont.com or any other of these free font sites. Or buy  
one at myfonts.com or any other vendor.


- How do I install a font on Ubuntu?
-- copy it into /usr/share/fonts/truetype (or similar) or ~/.fonts
-- it should also work to doubleclick that file and click install
-- see e.g. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275202
You can also keep the font in the same directory as your lilypond score.

- How do I refresh Pango’s font database?
-- run fc-cache

HTH




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Is pagination quadratic?

2011-04-09 Thread Victor Eijkhout
The other day I had the brilliant idea of writing some python code to generate 
the lilypond input for exercises. After all, generating the lilypond code for 
all triads, all scales, whatnot, is pretty simple.

So now I have this exercise study that generates close to 2000 scales like 
\relative c { a b c d e f g a g f e d c b a}. And finding the ideal number 
of pages takes an ungodly amount of time. Minutes. Probably over 10.

Which makes me wonder if pagination is quadratic (I really hope it's not 
exponential!) and if so, if it should be.

Any thoughts?

Victor.


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how to set a partial measure after the beginning of a piece?

2011-04-09 Thread Marc Mouries
I checked the doc here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-rhythms

and it says: partial command is intended to be used only at the beginning of a 
piece.  If you use it after the beginning, some odd warnings may occur. 

Any pointer about how to achieve this?

The fiddle piece is composed of 2 parts

part 1 = 4/4 | partial 4  |  notes  | measure  with 3 beats :|
part 2 =  partial 4 |  partial 4  |  notes  | measure  with 3 beats :|



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Re: Old English font for titles

2011-04-09 Thread Laura Conrad
 Henning == Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net writes:

Henning Am 2011-04-09 um 17:32 schrieb Laura Conrad:
 1.  How to tell lilypond how to use a particular font for titles.

Henning \header{
Henning  title = \markup{\override #'(font-name . Old English) Your 
Title}

Thanks.  

 It 
 would be preferable to have a variable that I could set for all my
 files, so that saying:

Henning For my setup I redefined the whole titling, see bookTitleMarkup in 
the
Henning paper block:
Henning 
http://git.fiee.net/?p=lilystuff.git;a=blob_plain;f=global.ly;hb=HEAD

I might end up deciphering this, but probably not this afternoon.

Does lilypond-book use the paper block?  I know it doesn't for lots of
stuff, like page size, which of course you want the publishing program
to control.

 2. How to install an Old English like font onto my ubuntu 10.10 system
 that I can use the above trick on.  It looks like finding one should
 be easier than turning the hge.mf file I have into something that
 current lilypond could make use of, but so far I haven't figured out
 how to do either one.  Can anyone help?

Henning Pango (LilyPond’s font library) should find every font that is
Henning installed normally in your system, so I guess your questions are:

Henning - Where do I find a suitable font?
-- e.g. at dafont.com or any other of these free font sites. Or buy
Henning one at myfonts.com or any other vendor.

Thanks.  dafont.com has several that look promising.  

Henning - How do I install a font on Ubuntu?
-- copy it into /usr/share/fonts/truetype (or similar) or ~/.fonts
-- it should also work to doubleclick that file and click install
-- see e.g. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275202

Henning You can also keep the font in the same directory as your
Henning lilypond score.

Henning - How do I refresh Pango’s font database?
-- run fc-cache

Henning HTH

I'm sure it does.  But right now there's still a problem.  When I
put the title markup into my file, and run lilypond on it, lilypond is
fine, but then  when it tries to convert the .ps file to .pdf,
ghostscript says:

`(gs -q -dSAFER -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595.28 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=841.89 
-dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite 
-sOutputFile=./five.pdf -c.setpdfwrite -ffive.ps)' failed (256)

When I try to look at the .ps file in ghostview, it just sits there with
its wheel spinning and doesn't show me anything.

This is true not only with the fonts I just downloaded, but with all the
other non-default fonts I've tried, such as Georgia and Century
Schoolbook.

This is on lilypond 2.13.58.  On 2.12.3, it seems to work fine.  I guess
I should report this to bugs.

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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread Victor Eijkhout
(sorry for breaking the thread. is there an easy way to follow up to a message 
in the digest?)

  Is this project dead?

 Sadly yes it is, in practice.
I hope everyone knows about the Werner Icking Music Archive? 
http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php

Public domain, pdf files, and the maintainer encourages contributors to include 
source (and sound or at least midi) files. Most of my music 
http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Eijkhout.php has lilypond (or 
occasionally sibelius) source files. This site is very much alive, with several 
contributions per day.

The maintainer of this archive is getting on in age and has health concerns, so 
there is a discussion going on about the future of the site. Maybe disapointed 
mutopia enthousiasts can play a role here?

Victor

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Re: Old English font for titles

2011-04-09 Thread Laura Conrad
 Laura == Laura Conrad lcon...@laymusic.org writes:

Laura This is on lilypond 2.13.58.  On 2.12.3, it seems to work
Laura fine.  I guess I should report this to bugs.

I take it back.  2.12.13 has different bugs.  It works fine with
Georgia, but doesn't seem to see the fonts I installed, although
programs like OpenOffice and gnome-font-viewer see them fine.


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Re: swing rhythm in midi output?

2011-04-09 Thread Michael Ellis
One way would be to write a music function that produces converts
straight-eighths to swing values.  Here's an outline of what's needed.
 Perhaps someone has already solved this.  You should be able to find some
code in LSR that can be modified to do what you want.  Changing durations is
trivial, figuring out where the beats start is a bit messier.

swingme =
#(define-music-function parser location music) (ly:music? music)
   Scan music for pairs of eighth notes starting on a beat.  Lengthen the
first and shorten the second
   ;; your code here 
)#

mymusic = { % your notes }

\score {
\mymusic %what gets printed

\midi { \swingme \mymusic } % what gets played
}

Cheers,
Mike


On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Marc Mouries m...@mouries.net wrote:

 Is possible to write regular eight notes and set settings in midi output to
 generate a swing rhythm like?




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Re: how to set a partial measure after the beginning of a piece?

2011-04-09 Thread Marek Klein
Hi,

2011/4/9 Marc Mouries m...@mouries.net

 I checked the doc here:

 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-rhythms

 and it says: partial command is intended to be used only at the beginning
 of a piece.  If you use it after the beginning, some odd warnings may
 occur. 

 Any pointer about how to achieve this?

 The fiddle piece is composed of 2 parts

 part 1 = 4/4 | partial 4  |  notes  | measure  with 3 beats :|
 part 2 =  partial 4 |  partial 4  |  notes  | measure  with 3 beats
 :|

 You can find nice description in 2.13 documentation:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation-big-page#normal-repeats

It should work for 2.12. too...
HTH.

Marek
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http://gregoriana.sk
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Re: Old English font for titles

2011-04-09 Thread Phil Holmes

Laura,

See below

- Original Message - 
From: Laura Conrad lcon...@laymusic.org


I'm sure it does.  But right now there's still a problem.  When I
put the title markup into my file, and run lilypond on it, lilypond is
fine, but then  when it tries to convert the .ps file to .pdf,
ghostscript says:

`(gs -q -dSAFER -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595.28 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=841.89 -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 
-dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=./five.pdf -c.setpdfwrite 
-ffive.ps)' failed (256)


When I try to look at the .ps file in ghostview, it just sits there with
its wheel spinning and doesn't show me anything.

This is true not only with the fonts I just downloaded, but with all the
other non-default fonts I've tried, such as Georgia and Century
Schoolbook.


=

There have been reports of this error before, seemingly related to fonts. 
However, we've never properly sorted this out.  This is no help to you now, 
but if you do have some time later to help debug this, it would be great.


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First page completed; tweaking questions

2011-04-09 Thread Ivan Kuznetsov
I have my first page of music notated with lilypond here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/61572029@N04/5603253711/



CONCERNING area's marked in red A1 and A2:

Sometimes I require one note to have two stems indicating
that the note belongs to two voices.  A2 worked out
as I intended but for A1, ideally I would just like the
half-note G# visible and the triplet eighth-note G# invisible,
so that the first stem of the triplet is the a stem
attached to the half-note G# (and the half-note G# still has
its downward stem also).  How can this be achieved?


CONCERNING the area's marked B1, B2, B3, and B4:

Look at B1 for example.  The triplet bracket circled is
too short, I want all triplet brackets to take the entire
duration, not just go to the last stem.

Also, in the special case of B1, where I have two
voices each with a triplet, notationally only one
bracket is necessary.  Is there any way to make one
of the bracket's invisible (like an s rest)?


CONCERNING the area's marked C1, C2, and C3:
Can I tilt the right side of the triplet bracket
down at C1 and C3?  At C2i, can I tilt the
left side of the beam upwards so it is over the rest?



Thank you for your pointers!
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Re: Old English font for titles

2011-04-09 Thread Laura Conrad
 Phil == Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
Laura ghostscript says:

Laura `(gs -q -dSAFER -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595.28
Laura -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=841.89 -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4
Laura -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite
Laura -sOutputFile=./five.pdf -c.setpdfwrite -ffive.ps)' failed
Laura (256)

Laura When I try to look at the .ps file in ghostview, it just sits
Laura there with its wheel spinning and doesn't show me anything.

Laura This is true not only with the fonts I just downloaded, but
Laura with all the other non-default fonts I've tried, such as
Laura Georgia and Century Schoolbook.


Phil =

Phil There have been reports of this error before, seemingly
Phil related to fonts. However, we've never properly sorted this
Phil out.  This is no help to you now, but if you do have some time
Phil later to help debug this, it would be great.

I finally got a trivial test file.  It's a dumb error in my markup.  If
you balance the open parenthesis in the composer name with a close
parenthesis, you don't get the problem, but if you use the close curly
bracket, as in the attached file, you do. 



titlefont.ly
Description: Binary data



-- 
Laura   (mailto:lcon...@laymusic.org, twitter: @serpentplayer)
(617) 661-8097  233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139   
http://www.laymusic.org/ http://www.serpentpublications.org

When I die and there's a memorial service, I want you to go to the
piano and play _The Man I Love_ in my key. If I don't come out on that
stage, then you'll know I'm gone.

Kitty Carlisle Hart, (Quoted at her memorial service, where they did
in fact play _The Man I Love._)
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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread Music Teacher
I think theres place enough for icking, mutopia and imslp. The nice
with mutopia is that you get 100% the source for the music you search,
so you can rearrange pages turns and much more. Love it,
Francois

2011/4/9, Victor Eijkhout vic...@eijkhout.net:
 (sorry for breaking the thread. is there an easy way to follow up to a
 message in the digest?)

  Is this project dead?

 Sadly yes it is, in practice.
 I hope everyone knows about the Werner Icking Music Archive?
 http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php

 Public domain, pdf files, and the maintainer encourages contributors to
 include source (and sound or at least midi) files. Most of my music
 http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Eijkhout.php has lilypond (or
 occasionally sibelius) source files. This site is very much alive, with
 several contributions per day.

 The maintainer of this archive is getting on in age and has health concerns,
 so there is a discussion going on about the future of the site. Maybe
 disapointed mutopia enthousiasts can play a role here?

 Victor



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Re: how to set a partial measure after the beginning of a piece?

2011-04-09 Thread Mark Polesky
Marc Mouries wrote:
 checked the doc here:
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-rhythms

 and it says: partial command is intended to be used only
 at the beginning of a piece.  If you use it after the
 beginning, some odd warnings may occur. 

 Any pointer about how to achieve this?

 The fiddle piece is composed of 2 parts

 part 1 = 4/4 | partial 4 | notes | measure  with 3 beats :|
 part 2 =       partial 4 | partial 4 | notes | measure with 3 beats :|

Can you post a png of the beginning of part 2?  Perhaps
there's a missing indication of first and second endings for
the repeat?  Two partial measures in a row is highly
suspicious.  Don't forget that repeat signs are not
necessarily bar lines, and that they occasionally appear in
the middle of a measure, perhaps creating the illusion of a
partial measure.  An incomplete measure in the middle of a
score should be notated with a change in the time signature,
and, as far as I know, NEVER with \partial.  Perhaps it
would make more sense to use two \score blocks, one for each
part.

The link Marek provided will work, but may take a while to
load since it loads the whole Notation Reference.  Here's a
quicker link to the split version of the same section:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/long-repeats

Hopefully this will be enough to help you figure it out.

- Mark





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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi.

  [...]
 I hope everyone knows about the Werner Icking Music Archive? 
 http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php
 
 Public domain, pdf files, and the maintainer encourages contributors to 
 include source (and sound or at least midi) files. Most of my music 
 http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Eijkhout.php has lilypond (or 
 occasionally sibelius) source files. This site is very much alive, with 
 several contributions per day.

I'd prefer a Lilypond-only archive, with Creative Commons licenses and
sources _always_ available.


Best regards,
Gilles

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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Music Teacher alicuota...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think theres place enough for icking, mutopia and imslp. The nice
 with mutopia is that you get 100% the source for the music you search,
 so you can rearrange pages turns and much more. Love it,

Of course. There are other repositories as well:
http://news.lilynet.net/spip.php?article109lang=en#what_s_up_with_lilypond_scores

One of the reason why I opened the lilynet.net website was to have a
library of LilyPond scores (that, unlike Mutopia, would be primarily
available as source code, and would be kept up-to-date with LilyPond
latest development releases as much as possible). I haven't gotten
around to build the necessary components yet, but it's still on the
table.

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Gilles Sadowski
gil...@harfang.homelinux.org wrote:
 I'd prefer a Lilypond-only archive, with Creative Commons licenses and
 sources _always_ available.

Licensing issues are a bit more complex, since what we'd ideally need
is a license that covers *both* the source code (think GPL, for
example) and the score as a compiled, ready-to-play pdf (CC do a great
job at that, but so does Free Art License for example). (I've been
working on such a license for a few years now, so that's also
something I'd like to make happen eventually :-)

Cheers,
Valentin.

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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-09 Thread Nick Payne

On 10/04/11 01:29, Bernardo Barros wrote:


If its possible to download all the material (it is?) would be very
simple to set up a mercurial repository at google code or bitbucket,
if you do not like git.
I while ago I downloaded the complete Mutopia contents to my local hard 
drive from the ftp mirror at ibiblio.org. However, there's something 
wrong with that ftp server at the moment - I can logon as anonymous, but 
can't get any directories to display. I can cwd to 
/pub/multimedia/mutopia, which is where the scores should/used to be, 
but nothing underneath there is visible.


Nick

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First page completed; tweaking questions

2011-04-09 Thread ivan . k . kuznetsov


I have my first page of music notated with lilypond here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/61572029@N04/5603253711/



CONCERNING area's marked in red A1 and A2:

Sometimes I require one note to have two stems indicating
that the note belongs to two voices.  A2 worked out
as I intended but for A1, ideally I would just like the
half-note G# visible and the triplet eighth-note G# invisible,
so that the first stem of the triplet is the a stem
attached to the half-note G# (and the half-note G# still has
its downward stem also).  How can this be achieved?


CONCERNING the area's marked B1, B2, B3, and B4:

Look at B1 for example.  The triplet bracket circled is
too short, I want all triplet brackets to take the entire
duration, not just go to the last stem.

Also, in the special case of B1, where I have two
voices each with a triplet, notationally only one
bracket is necessary.  Is there any way to make one
of the bracket's invisible (like an s rest)?


CONCERNING the area's marked C1, C2, and C3:
Can I tilt the right side of the triplet bracket
down at C1 and C3?  At C2i, can I tilt the
left side of the beam upwards so it is over the rest?



Thank you for your pointers!









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Re: First page completed; tweaking questions

2011-04-09 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Apr 9, 2011, at 7:08 PM, ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 I have my first page of music notated with lilypond here:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/61572029@N04/5603253711/
 
 
 
 CONCERNING area's marked in red A1 and A2:
 
 Sometimes I require one note to have two stems indicating
 that the note belongs to two voices.  A2 worked out
 as I intended but for A1, ideally I would just like the
 half-note G# visible and the triplet eighth-note G# invisible,
 so that the first stem of the triplet is the a stem
 attached to the half-note G# (and the half-note G# still has
 its downward stem also).  How can this be achieved?
 

\mergeDifferentlyHeadedOn


 
 CONCERNING the area's marked B1, B2, B3, and B4:
 
 Look at B1 for example.  The triplet bracket circled is
 too short, I want all triplet brackets to take the entire
 duration, not just go to the last stem.

\set tupletFullLength = ##t
\set tupletFullLengthNote = ##t
 
 Also, in the special case of B1, where I have two
 voices each with a triplet, notationally only one
 bracket is necessary.  Is there any way to make one
 of the bracket's invisible (like an s rest)?
 

\once \override Voice . TupletBracket #'transparent = ##t
 
 CONCERNING the area's marked C1, C2, and C3:
 Can I tilt the right side of the triplet bracket
 down at C1 and C3?  At C2i, can I tilt the
 left side of the beam upwards so it is over the rest?
 

This I'll leave for someone else - I can think of kludgy ways to do it, but 
there may be more elegant ones.

Cheers,
MS


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Re: Dividing ties and adjusting ties in an arpeggiated chord

2011-04-09 Thread bruys .
Hello Eluze,

This is quite exciting. You have produced a decent result. Your method
promises the ability to tweak away to get the exact result required
(but see below).

It looks like you have shown that the part of the manual that I quoted
is misleading, it seems that setting control-points will work in this
setting, albeit with a lot of experimentation to find appropriate
parameters. I tried also adjusting one of the other ties with
control-points, and this seemed to work. It's also possible that the
manual is right, as the parameters I need to use don't make much sense
to me, however it is possible to rig up a solution.

The one disappointing aspect is that (with version 2.13), I get a
warning that Lilypond couldn't find the property type-check for
'dash-definition'. And, if I comment this line out, the result is
basically unchanged. Actually, if I leave this line in, it messes up
the control-points adjustment on the second tie. It would be great if
this did work. Does anyone know if this is a bug?

(By the way, it seems the snippet you pointed me to last time, could
be used to divide the tie in this instance, as there is an accidental
involved. But, that would be a bit of a hack, as this wouldn't
generally be the case.)

Regards,
bruys




On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:07 PM, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote:


 bruys . wrote:

 Hello Again,

 Part 2: If I put each part into a separate voice context, the ties are
 in the right direction, but otherwise it's a real mess.


 i tried another approach starting from your original code:

 since the tie of the d'' goes thru the fis'' it looks a bit funny if you
 just hide the part colliding with the note - rather it is more appropriate
 to start the tie under the fis'' on the correct pitch level.

 my solution:

 arpeggiatedchord = {
  \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % as notes intervene before the ties end
  \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
  \grace {
    \once \override Tie #'control-points = #'((1 . 1) (2 . 1) (5 . 2) (9.5 .
 1.2))
    \once \override Tie  #'dash-definition = #'((0.0 0.3 0 0) (0.3 1.0 1 1))
    d''16_~ [
    fis''16~
    b'16^~
    d'16_~
    \once \override Tie  #'minimum-length = #2.5
    gis'16~
    ]
  }
  \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0
  d'' fis'' b' d' gis'4
 }

 \score {
  \arpeggiatedchord
 }
 http://old.nabble.com/file/p31358219/test.png

 of course there is a lot of manual work behind this!
 Eluze
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Lyrics - vertical alignments

2011-04-09 Thread Michael Dykes
I have a score (attached) that has the lyrics placed rather high, that is
not centered between the staves. I have looked into the manual a lot, and
still have yet to come up with a solution. Help please. Thanks in advance.

-- 
In Christ,
Michael D
\version 2.12.3
\include english.ly
\include gregorian.ly

\header {
  title = The Hymn of Orthodoxy~Only-Begotten Son
  poet = Znamenny Chant~Tone 2
  composer =  Arranged by Michael Dykes
 footer = obs_zn[3].ly
ponomarname = Only-Begotten Son
ponomartype = OwnWork
ponomarsubtype = Arrangement
ponomarsource = Unknown
ponomarauthor = Michael Dykes
maintainer = Michael Dykes
maintaineremail = thedoctor81...@gmail.com
lastupdated = 2011/04/07
ponomarlang = en
ponomarcomments = 
copyright = This score is part of the Ponomar OpenMusic Project
tagline = \markup {
\override #'(box-padding . 1.0) \override #'(baseline-skip . 2.7)
\box \center-column {
  \line { \with-url #http://www.ponomar.net; \line { www. \hspace #-1.0 ponomar \hspace #-1.0 .net \hspace #0.5 } • Orthodox Liturgical music that is \italic free to download, use, modify and distribute. }
  \line { Typeset using \with-url #http://www.LilyPond.org; \line { LilyPond } by \maintainer \hspace #-1.0 . \hspace #0.5 Copyright © 2011. \hspace #0.5 Reference: \footer }
  \line { \teeny \line { Licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 (Unported) License, for details see: \hspace #-0.5 \with-url #http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0; http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0 } }
}
  }
}

% #(set-global-staff-size 22)
global = {
  \key f \major
  \revert Score.SpacingSpanner #'packed-spacing
  \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
  \override Staff.BarLine #'stencil = ##f
}
move = { \bar  \break }

soprano = \relative c'' {
  \global
  % Music follows here.
  a4 a a a a a a a a a g a2 g4 f g2 \finalis
  
  f4 f f g2 g4 g g g f g a(g) f(g) a2 \divisioMinima
  g4 g g a bf2 a4 a a a a g a2(g) f1 \divisioMaior
  
  f4 g a2 a4 a a a a a a a a g a(g f2) g2 \divisioMinima
  f4 f f g2 g4 g g g f g a(g) f(g) a2 \divisioMinima
  g4 g a bf2 a4 a g a2 g f1 \divisioMaior
  
  f4 g a2 a4 a a g a(g) f2 g \divisioMinima
  g2 g4 g g g g g g g f g a(g f g) a1 \divisioMaxima
  g2(a bf2. a4 g2 f) g1 \finalis
  
  
  a2. g4 a(g f2) g1 \divisioMaxima
  g2(f4) g a(g f g) a1 \finalis
  
  g4(a) bf2(a2.) g4 a2(g f1) \finalis
  a2.(g4 f2 g) a\breve \finalis
}

tenor = \relative c' {
  \global
  % Music follows here.
  c4 c c c c c c c c c c c2 c4 a c2 \finalis
  
  a4 a a c2 c4 c c c a c c2 a4(c) c2 \divisioMinima
  bf4 bf bf c d2 c4 c c c c c c1 a \divisioMaior
  
  a4 c c2 c4 c c c c c c c c c c2(a) c \divisioMinima
  a4 a a c2 c4 c c c a c c2 a c \divisioMinima
  bf4 bf c d2 c4 c c c2 c a1 \divisioMaior
  
  a4 c c2 c4 c c c c2 a c \divisioMinima
  c2 c4 c c c c c c c a c c2(a) c1 \divisioMaxima
  bf2(c d2. c a2) bf1 \finalis
  
  c2. c4 c2(a) c1 \divisioMaxima
  c2(a4) c c2(a4 c) c1 \finalis
  
  bf4(c) d2(c2.) bf4 c1(a) \finalis
  c1(a2 c) c\breve \finalis
}

bass = \relative c {
  \global
  % Music follows here.
  f4 f f f f f f f f f c f2 f4 d c2 \finalis
  
  d4 d d c2 c4 c c c d c f2 d4(f) f2 \divisioMinima
  g4 g g f bf,2 f'4 f f f f c f2(c) d1 \divisioMaior
  
  d4 c f2 f4 f f f f f f f f c f2(d) c \divisioMinima
  d4 d d c2 c4 c c c d c f2 d f \divisioMinima
  g4 g f bf,2 f'4 f c f2 c d1 \divisioMaior
  
  d4 c f2 f4 f f c f2 d c \divisioMinima
  c2 c4 c c c c c c c d c f2(d) c1 \divisioMaxima
  g'2(f bf,2. f' d2) g g,1 \finalis
  
  f2. c4 f2(d) c1 \divisioMaxima
  c2(f4) c f2.(c4) f1 \finalis
  
  g4(f) bf,2(f'2.) f4 f1(d) \finalis
  f1(d2 c) f f, \breve \finalis
}

verse = \lyricmode {
  \override LyricSpace #'minimum-distance = #1.0
  \override LyricText #'font-size = #+1
  % Lyrics follow here.
  
  Both now and 
  \override LyricHyphen #'minimum-distance = #1.4
  ev -- er, and 
  \override LyricHyphen #'minimum-distance = #1.4
  un -- to a -- ges of a -- ges. A -- men.
  
  On -- ly- Be -- got -- ten Son and Im -- mor -- tal Word __ of __ God,
  Who for our sal -- va -- tion didst will to be in -- carn -- ate,
  
  of the Ho -- ly The -- o -- to -- kos and Ev -- er- Vir -- gin Ma -- ry,
  Who with -- out change, didst be -- come man, and wast cru -- ci -- fied,
  O Christ our God, tramp -- ling down death by death.
  
  Who art one of the Ho -- ly Tri -- ni -- ty,
  glor -- i -- fied with the Fa  -- ther, and the Ho -- ly Spir -- it:
  Save __ us!
  
  Lord, have mer -- cy.
  Lord,__ have mer -- cy.
  
  To __ Thee, __ O Lord. __
  A -- men.
}

\score {
  \new ChoirStaff 
\new Staff \with {
  \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(1.5 . 4)
  midiInstrument =  string ensemble 1 
  instrumentName = \markup \center-column { S }
} 
  \new Voice = soprano { \voiceOne \soprano }

\new Lyrics \lyricsto soprano \verse
\new Staff \with {
  midiInstrument =  

Re: Lyrics - vertical alignments

2011-04-09 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/9/11 9:48 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a score (attached) that has the lyrics placed rather high, that is not
 centered between the staves. I have looked into the manual a lot, and still
 have yet to come up with a solution. Help please. Thanks in advance.

Michael,

You need to report the version of LilyPond that you are using, because
lyrics are handled differently in different versions.

Looking at your .ly file, I see a version of 2.12.3.

Unfortunately, I can't help with lyric spacing on 2.12.3.  Lyrics are
handled differently in 2.12 and 2.13.5x.  I'm only familiar with the new
methods.

Hopefully somebody else will be able to help you.

I'm sorry,

Carl
 


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how does beforebreak work?

2011-04-09 Thread Graham Percival
We have a problem.  The only full-time doc writer/editor isn't certain
how breakbefore works, and I'm not certain that he completely
understands the \book{} and \bookparts{} input file structure either.

This has resulted in a much-needed rewrite for Notation 3 Spacing
being delayed by literally months.  I'm not kidding.

I know that tons of people here understand this stuff.  Could somebody
volunteer to help our only full-time documentation writer learn this?
A few quick emails, maybe with a few examples, can probably make all
the difference.  You don't need to know texinfo, or git, or even
lilypond-book.  Just basic lilypond knowledge.  Just making one or two
.ly files.

It's a crying shame that we've lost so much potential doc work.


Longer-term, it would be really nice if the user community was better
about supporting the doc team.  When somebody who's working on
documentation asks a question, please consider responding -- and
respond in more detail than you would normally tell a user.  Maybe we
could even revamp the old lilypond consultants idea: whenever a doc
writer is confused about something, they could have a few skilled
lilypond users (and knowledgeable musicians) who would explain stuff
to them, so that they could then write docs for it.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Lyrics - vertical alignments

2011-04-09 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/9/11 10:27 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry. I re-wrote and re-compiled the file, with a newer version (2.13.58) and
 the lyrics are farther down, but still not centered b/t the staves. Thanks. It
 is attached.

Please keep the replies on list, so they can be of benefit to all.

 
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:
 On 4/9/11 9:48 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a score (attached) that has the lyrics placed rather high, that is
  not
 centered between the staves. I have looked into the manual a lot, and still
 have yet to come up with a solution. Help please. Thanks in advance.
 
 Michael,
 
 You need to report the version of LilyPond that you are using, because
 lyrics are handled differently in different versions.
 
 Looking at your .ly file, I see a version of 2.12.3.
 
 Unfortunately, I can't help with lyric spacing on 2.12.3.  Lyrics are
 handled differently in 2.12 and 2.13.5x.  I'm only familiar with the new
 methods.
 

On 2.13.58, the \override VerticalAxizGroup #'minimum-Y-extent command is no
longer used to control spacing.

Please read the section in the documentation on flexible vertical spacing
variables (Notation Reference 4.4.1).

There is an example there that shows how to center lyrics between staves.

HTH,

Carl


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Re: Lyrics - vertical alignments

2011-04-09 Thread Michael Dykes
I have read this - well most of this section before, but when I try it I
still get the same results. Perhaps someone could help me out a little,
please?

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:

 On 4/9/11 10:27 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sorry. I re-wrote and re-compiled the file, with a newer version
 (2.13.58) and
  the lyrics are farther down, but still not centered b/t the staves.
 Thanks. It
  is attached.

 Please keep the replies on list, so they can be of benefit to all.

 
  On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu
 wrote:
  On 4/9/11 9:48 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I have a score (attached) that has the lyrics placed rather high, that
 is
   not
  centered between the staves. I have looked into the manual a lot, and
 still
  have yet to come up with a solution. Help please. Thanks in advance.
 
  Michael,
 
  You need to report the version of LilyPond that you are using, because
  lyrics are handled differently in different versions.
 
  Looking at your .ly file, I see a version of 2.12.3.
 
  Unfortunately, I can't help with lyric spacing on 2.12.3.  Lyrics are
  handled differently in 2.12 and 2.13.5x.  I'm only familiar with the new
  methods.
 

 On 2.13.58, the \override VerticalAxizGroup #'minimum-Y-extent command is
 no
 longer used to control spacing.

 Please read the section in the documentation on flexible vertical spacing
 variables (Notation Reference 4.4.1).

 There is an example there that shows how to center lyrics between staves.

 HTH,

 Carl




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