was transferred into
recompilations of the compiler that would compile a backdoor when the
login program was being compiled. With no trail left in the sources,
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David Kastrup writes:
A new _installation_ step was introduced since the previous one would
not work more than a few times and left traces in the system when
uninstalling that would eventually lead to failure.
Who takes care of this new step
the trick instead (,@ is the list splicing operator, basically
stripping one level of parens when inserting).
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soundsfromsound soundsfromso...@gmail.com writes:
Do you guys have a PayPal donation link or something where perhaps I
could send a little something your way? I couldn't find
in _addition_ to everything else.
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'(NoteEvent EventChord))
(let ((mylist (extract-named-music music '(EventChord NoteEvent
is shorter here...
(display-scheme-music (car mylist))
(display \n)
(display-scheme-music (last mylist)))
NB
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But we don't have a reliable mechanism for turning money into LilyPond
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can do profits
from that deal, but also the depth of the stuff I can deal with, and if
things in LilyPond annoy me, I have no distractions in between that
would make it easier for me to accept things as they are.
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what happened in the remaining failure cases.
What do you think?
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expected to know the fine points of how to move about on our mailing
lists. So there is no point in making a spectacle out of telling them.
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were the right ones ;-)
Now if Marc had deleted the trailing 100 lines he had not been replying
to, this would have been a reasonably instructive example...
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was around when they evolved. But even something official
like URL:http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 does not really elaborate
on the fine points of quoting.
I am sure there are lists where the learning experience can be a lot
less pleasurable than here.
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a warning in 2.20, and stop working in 2.22. But the
second variant is easier on the eyes in my opinion.
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parts in context and
replying directly below makes more sense.
Gnus, the Emacs built-in news/mail reader has the WYf key combination
that, among some other things, reorders quote-below material into
reading order. So it is not a really rare occurence...
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donations/funds increasing and get another developer on board.
Well, cannot even barely sustain two developers does not sound like a
huge step forward in sustainability. So one step after the other.
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Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:21 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
First, let's assume 2.16 (the current development version will not
accept the above syntax of \overrideProperty even in the first variant).
Yes. I haven't made the switch yet
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:21 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Then you are writing a quoted list here. Inside of a quoted list, _all_
symbols are quoted, not referenced for their value. So you need either
to use proper evaluated Scheme
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Actually, if you were using 2.17.6, you could just write
staffdist =
#(define-music-function (parser location distances)
(list?)
#{
\overrideProperty
that broke session integrity (any changes propagated to further files
processed on the command line). It likely still does. The internals
changed in the mean time.
It was probably a mistake to ever include this regtest. It just gives
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Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:31 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
You did not copy and paste valid LilyPond code into #{ #}. You replaced
a constant in a constant list by a symbol. That was not valid outside
of #{ #}, and it did not became
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Thomas Morley
thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote:
2012/11/9 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:21 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
[...)
Sorry for being grumpy - i'm
working the
moment the underlying implementation was changed to something less
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\tweak #'direction #DOWN \times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
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Am 10.11.2012 14:49, schrieb David Kastrup:
[...]
-i isn't an option of touch. It is an option of rm. The touch places
a file -i in the directory. At least with POSIX sort order
\times 2/3 { c'8 c' c' }
}
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in a row rather than the first. The
same situation with an optional and a mandatory argument of the same
kind can be resolved by using \default to skip the optional argument.
I am pretty sure that Extending LilyPond describes this, though
probably without giving the rationale for it.
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Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
2012/11/7 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
Will do, if noone comes up with a better solution or finds a drawback.
We have markup commands \note and \note-by-number. It seems to me
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
2012/11/12 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
2012/11/7 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
Will do, if noone comes up with a better solution
it be useful if LilyPond could export BMC? Possibly even just for
verifying that your conversion has retained meaning? Would that be
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Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Would it be useful if LilyPond could export BMC?
Of course! Actually, thats something that blind people are wishing
for for a long time so that they could make use of the huge body of
LilyPond music on Mutopiaproject
Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Would it be useful if LilyPond could export BMC?
Of course! Actually, thats something that blind people are wishing
for for a long time so
You need to use \set, not override (read about the difference in the
documentation)
\set Staff.fontSize = #-2
Thanks!
It is not that the command did anything useful (you are lucky it did not
crash, actually) before 2.17.6. 2.17.6 just checks more carefully.
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2012/11/12 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
c)
The functions above are using two optional arguments.
And I'm able to omit both optional arguments or the second.
But I can't omit only
non-trivial side jobs
that can cause me to deadlock for longer times.
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started off - I
have a sense of the type of code it'd require, but it'd take time to
create all the conversion rules in Scheme.
Which is why I'd likely do most of them in LilyPond syntax.
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Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Taught me a lesson about optimization and computer scientists.
Yes, I know about the pitfalls that premature optimisation can open.
In the case I was talking about, I actually went from roughly 70
seconds runtime of my
message:
programming error: stopped tuplet bracket has neither left nor right bound
continuing, cross fingers
Help?
Don't use \times here but rather *14/16 on the duration.
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everything can be coded at the right time?
I think one will likely have to do this on a case-by-case basis. I
don't see that there would be some magical button that could fix every
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the
documentation to provide some guideline as what to do and what not to
do With some examples?
I've not the knowledge to answer your questions definitely. David
Kastrup could say much more about it. (And there are several
discussions about that topic here on the list and on devel
Christopher R. Maden cr...@maden.org writes:
On 11/18/2012 05:26 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
At the current point of time, the rule is that alphabetic is a-z,
A-Z, and _any_ non-ASCII character. This is a bit excessive, but
short of a reliable is a letter test, this was easiest to
implement
it is an Urtext, that is
not indicative of the style of Händel.
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Michael Rivers michaeljriv...@gmail.com writes:
Sweet! Thank you so much for that code, and thank you to whoever wrote it.
Open source is amazing.
Dunno who I stole this from does not meet the licensing criteria for
either Open Source or Free Software.
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and the time saved would be very helpful!
Numbers are not word constituents in markup, so you likely need to write
f7 and 7f here.
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to push out 2.18 rather soon, or nobody will be able to help the
poor sods stuck with 2.16 any more. I don't think that a backport of
the backward-compatible parts of this patch set (basically only
\override and \revert) would be appropriate for a stable release series.
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}
Footnotes don't work as articulation, and moving them in front of the
footnoted material is too hard to do automatically. You need to change
this manually to
\footnote ... c
The order of the \footnote arguments, however, should be juggled around
correctly by convert-ly.
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in the respective conversion step.
It is, however, worth noting that footnotes were becoming usable only in
the 2.15 release series and documented only in 2.15.21, so the
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ignore those settings, and within a tabstaff, Staff is aliased to
TabStaff.
The disadvantage is that if you use \barre outside of any staff, it will
create a default Staff rather than a TabStaff.
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a
\version 2.14.0
header before it. This should convert to the currently valid form. In
general, that's what you should do when trying to run examples from the
current LSR (which is still on 2.14) on 2.16.x.
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of being considered a Staff-starter.
Automatically started staffs might not have been the best possible idea,
particularly in parallel music. It is usually least problematic to
explicitly specify all of your staffs.
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Bric b...@flight.us writes:
Since it's developing so fast, it might be a good idea to mention
versions to a newbie. Ubuntu still has nothing newer than 2.14 in its
repositories.
Raring has 2.16.0: URL:https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lilypond
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and bottom slurs get
shaped.
Starting with 2.17.4, you can use \shape on individual slurs. That
allows writing something like
c ^\shape ... ( _\shape ... (
I am just mentioning this for completeness: I definitely hope that there
is a more convenient solution than that.
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Maybe this should be the default.
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replaced and other things), so you just need to add it to your book or
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-music 'TextSpanEvent
'span-direction (sel '(-1 1)))
(ly:music-property m 'articulations)
(list last first)))
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\revert NoteHead #'style } \\ {a4 b c}
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is.
Should be tupletSpannerDuration with no capitalization of the first
letter.
I verified that the manual contains no instance of
TupletSpannerDuration. copy and paste has a rather fixed meaning
that is usually not meant to include read and manually retyped.
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replies, but that are the conditions one has to work under these times.
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. But that would require actually changing the parser and
recompiling LilyPond.
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texlive-binaries: /usr/bin/mfplain
texlive-metapost: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/metapost/config/mfplain.ini
$
Do you have texlive-metapost installed?
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Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:
David Kastrup wrote
You could suck the whole file into one score and get just the music back
out again using ly:score-music, something like
#(ly:score-music #{ \score { \include xxx.ly } #})
The music will already be scorified (repeat chords expanded
}
\context {\Staff \remove Time_signature_engraver}
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most of my bills in return for the work I do as part of a common project
for the sake of musicians.
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it.
The only question is: warning or error? I tend towards the latter.
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-4) Slur \appoggiatura ...
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Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
How about adding
\override Staff.KeyCancellation #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #f #f)
to your score?
Seems to work.
I'd write ##(#f #f #f) instead. Vectors written as #(...) are already
constants (including quoting the contents).
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Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
How about adding
\override Staff.KeyCancellation #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #f #f)
to your score?
Seems to work.
I'd write ##(#f #f #f) instead
all the hash-signs
and speculated, the # before the bracket was a typo.
The '-sign gives a little structure to it, at least.
Well, as I said I find it irritating as compared to ##f and ##t.
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#{
\once \override Glissando #'(bound-details left Y) = #offset
\once \override Glissando #'(bound-details right Y) = #offset
#})
Check the Extending LilyPond Guide for define-music-function.
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David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
Why has that been inverted? To me, \shape PhrasingSlur #… is easier to
read than \shape #… PhrasingSlur. Could someone briefly explain the
reason for that?
The old syntax was
\shape PhrasingSlur #'((0 . 1) (0
the complete \voiceFour instead of just
\stemDown.
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should only be using stable
versions. Using unstable versions makes sense only when you are
planning on frequent updates.
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, and converting that to
\tweak font-size ... is outside of the expertise of the \single
command. So you need to do turn this into a \tweak manually,
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From 2.17.6 (?) on, you should be able to write
e \single\harmonicsOn e' \tweak font-size -2 e''4
[...]
For harmonics, there are a few more predefined commands for producing
them; looking at them might make sense.
The solution using \single was just
Rustik r.ala...@mail.ru writes:
David Kastrup wrote
\stemDown here messes up the assumptions for \voiceThree, so you'd
likely be better off using the complete \voiceFour instead of just
\stemDown.
How it will look in the context of my example?
You replace \stemDown with \voiceFour
persist as it has been fixed in 2.17.7, and since the code is
clever, all bets are off just what will be entailed to reliably change
it to the way you prefer.
Cf. URL:https://codereview.appspot.com/6778050#msg11.
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, I see some differences in the stem directions, but it's not clear to
me why. I would be very happy, if anyone could explain that to me.
The former uses a single Voice context, the latter uses two.
The latter also uses \voiceOne and \voiceTwo in the respective two
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to the limited number of instruments supported by
free samples on Ubuntu.
If you try
timidity whatever.midi
you should likely get a warning on the terminal if the file contains
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would have thought that in the absence of a hardware Midi
player, _everything_ would get routed through timidity, so I am somewhat
surprised at the difference. No idea just _what_ the movie player does
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assume that one will get through and that the original pathmakers were
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Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
Am 07.12.2012 07:43, schrieb David Kastrup:
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
Staff var { a4 }
Staff var …or even (?) \var …
Staff and var are valid lyrics. Most complex syntactic constructs
start with a keyword starting with backslash
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David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com writes:
I used to display the Arpeggio in TabStaff this way:
\revert Arpeggio #'stencil
I know that David made a big change in the code and the synthax is
changed, but I can't make it work.
\revert Arpeggio.stencil
a fix to staging, should become part of 2.17.9 and be in master
in a few hours at most.
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but I got this error: Unbound
variable: notecol
Well, there is a difference between notecol and note-col isn't it?
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figuring out the whereabouts of parser problems. And that is,
indeed, not useful for the average user.
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the (considerably) updated version of
this file found here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg69861/rN.ly
Might be worth copying the second over the first?
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2.17.6 (?) makes \tweak and \override and other commands look nicer, but
2.16.0 is not there yet.
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will the
sandbox allow me to do this?
The behavior is undefined if I remember correctly: an error is not
guaranteed by the standard. I think Guilev2 will produce an error, but
LilyPond is still at Guilev1.
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