Re: Conversion to MIDI ?
- Original Message - From: PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu To: Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Conversion to MIDI ? I sit flamboozled! Thanks, will look into this! (Yes, my system is Linux -- Debian Squeeze.) Brett McCoy wrote: On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:23 AM, PMApeterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote: Hi List. Please forgive a naive question. Is there such a thing as a WAV-to-MIDI or MP3-to-MIDI file format converter? My common sense is yelling, No way, Buster!, but it needs confirmation. Intellisense: http://www.intelliscore.net/ Only runs on Windows though (they mention using VirtualBox if you are not running Windows) Not sure if I've tried this one, but I have tried a few and they were of no use whatever. Your ear is far more likely to provide useful results. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fatal Error on Launching 2.15.31
Top-posting, because my mail reader interprets this as HTML and won't use
proper indenting. What operating system are you using? Have you used previous
versions of LilyPond without this problem?
Phil Holmes
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From: Eric
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:01 PM
Subject: Fatal Error on Launching 2.15.31
This may belong on the developer list- apologies.
Immediately after downloading and expanding 2.15.31 in the version
appropriate for my Macintosh (10.7.3 Intel Duo) I got a crash reflected in my
console with these message:
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: Traceback (most
recent call last):
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: File
/Users/ericschissel/donotbackup/chromedownloads/LilyPond
3.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line 31, in module
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond:
_run('LilyPond.py')
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: File
/Users/ericschissel/donotbackup/chromedownloads/LilyPond
3.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line 28, in _run
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond:
execfile(path, globals(), globals())
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: File
/Users/ericschissel/donotbackup/chromedownloads/LilyPond
3.app/Contents/Resources/LilyPond.py, line 3, in module
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: from
PyObjCTools import AppHelper
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: File
PyObjCTools/AppHelper.pyc, line 14, in module
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: File
AppKit/__init__.pyc, line 8, in module
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: File
objc/__init__.pyc, line 22, in module
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: File
objc/__init__.pyc, line 19, in _update
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: File
objc/_objc.pyc, line 18, in module
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: File
objc/_objc.pyc, line 11, in __load
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: ImportError:
dlopen(/Users/ericschissel/donotbackup/chromedownloads/LilyPond
3.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/objc/_objc.so, 2): Symbol
not found: _objc_sync_notify
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: Referenced
from: /Users/ericschissel/donotbackup/chromedownloads/LilyPond
3.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/objc/_objc.so
3/3/12 9:52:59.193 AM [0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond: Expected in:
/usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
3/3/12 9:52:59.392 AM LilyPond: LilyPond Error
3/3/12 9:52:59.393 AM LilyPond: LilyPond Error
An unexpected error has occurred during execution of the main script
ImportError: dlopen(/Users/ericschissel/donotbackup/chromedownloads/LilyPond
3.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/objc/_objc.so, 2): Symbol
not found: _objc_sync_notify
Referenced from: /Users/ericschissel/donotbackup/chromedownloads/LilyPond
3.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/objc/_objc.so
Expected in: /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
3/3/12 9:53:28.736 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
([0x0-0x916916].org.lilypond.lilypond[24955]) Exited with code: 255
3/3/12 9:54:39.134 AM LilyPond: The Info.plist file must have a
PyRuntimeLocations array containing string values for preferred Python runtime
locations. These strings should be otool -L style mach ids;
@executable_stub and ~ prefixes will be translated accordingly.
3/3/12 9:55:05.153 AM [0x0-0x91b91b].LilyPond: 0x9a66212b
3/3/12 9:55:05.153 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
([0x0-0x91b91b].LilyPond[24997]) Exited with code: 255
Apologies for the dump but not sure what to do with that! Seemed to deserve a
report somewhere - if not here, again apologies, will forward to if and as I
can.
Eric
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Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution
- Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:14 PM Subject: Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution Hi David, 2012/3/3 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com: Hi Harm, I attached a tarball with all fixed files (hope it's not to big). Perhaps you could test compiling them. IIRC you use windows, it should make no difference, but who knows ... Everything compiles :) All I get are warnings with a few of the files. I've attached the trimmed-down results. I'll get back to you soon about the text you want me to look at. -David thanks for your effort. I know about most of the warnings. I think they can be disregarded. But I'm a little bit puzzled about these: warning: No glyph found for alteration: 54/125 (etc) warning: Could not find glyph-name for alteration 17/1000 warning: Incomplete keyAlterationOrder for key signature warning: MIDI channel wrapped around warning: remapping modulo 16 I never saw them before during my testings. And I can't appraise them. === Sebastiano would welcome an updated tarball. Please send it to vi...@dsi.unimi.it Thanks. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution
- Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: James pkx1...@gmail.com Cc: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com; lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:52 PM Subject: Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution Hi James, 2012/3/4 James pkx1...@gmail.com: Phil, On 4 March 2012 18:30, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:14 PM Subject: Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution ... warning: MIDI channel wrapped around warning: remapping modulo 16 I never saw them before during my testings. And I can't appraise them. LIAR! http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-06/msg00833.html ;) I think if look in the Archives you might find the others too. -- -- James the point is, that I can't reproduce the warnings. So, I don't know whether LSR-updating is blocked by them or not. What do you think? Cheers, Harm I'm not certain, but my expectation would be that warnings would not stop snippets from being displayed, so I would ignore them. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ossia requiring an entire PianoStaff, urgent.
- Original Message - From: Hwaen Ch'uqi hwaench...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 12:12 PM Subject: Ossia requiring an entire PianoStaff, urgent. Greetings All, I am entering a composition competition for piano duo, and I have but a few days before I must submit my score. As one will see from the excerpt of the practical score, the Primo part, begining from m.42, includes an ossia for the left hand. Simultaneously, the Secondo part includes an ossia for both hands, thus requiring another PianoStaff context. Though the ossia sections of the 2.14.2 NR do not show instances of ossias requiring another PianoStaff context, the result seems fairly acceptable. However, when all is combined into a full score, one will quickly see that a problem arises -- namely, that the ossia of the Primo appears below the entire system of music. I have a notion that the answer lies somewhere in the explanation of NR 5.1.7, though I cannot exactly find the direct application to my situation. I would be most grateful for any suggestions. I have also included the .ly file for the first 54 measures of the full score. Apart from the indication of pageBreaks, the code for the individual parts is exactly preserved from their respective .ly files. Many thanks. Hwaen Ch'uqi 2 suggestions: 1) when you're trying to sort out complex layout problems like this, it's very much easier to get rid of almost all the notes and do it with an absolute minimum of other stuff, except the staves you're trying to get right. 2) it looks to me like you have 2 staves called up and 2 called down. I'd suggest calling them upone and uptwo and then trying to align the ossias to the desired stave. Not tested. If this doesn't work, see 1). -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Build error. MergeFonts: Can't find font: feta11.pfb
- Original Message - From: Nils l...@nilsgey.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 9:03 PM Subject: Build error. MergeFonts: Can't find font: feta11.pfb Hello, The system is Archlinux and I'm building from AUR with this small script. It does nothing special: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/li/lilypond-git/PKGBUILD The git version does not build on my 64bit system anymore, however it does build on my 32bit laptop. Both systems are arch linux with the same dependency versions, at least as close as possible you can get with 32/64 bit differences. I tried a few weeks ago and it was the same. I am not sure about the real error since the build process is so insanely verbose, especially in the font generation process. This is at least the symptom and the only thing in the log with error, except the file error.something Converting PostScript graphics to Type 1 font programs... Cannot open /var/abs/local/yaourtbuild/lilypond-git/src/lilypond-build/mf/out/feta11.pfb The requested file, feta11.pfb, does not exist MergeFonts: Can't find font: feta11.pfb Called from... emmentaler-11.pe: line 17 make[1]: *** [out/emmentaler-11.svg] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs Additional information: No *11.pfb is existent. But all other font sizes.pfb were generated correctly. Are you running a multi-cpu build? (i.e. make -jN). Have you directed the make output to a file so you can check for the presence of an attempt to make the feta11 files? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Floating markup / Markup takes too much space
- Original Message - From: Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: Floating markup / Markup takes too much space Dear list I am trying something new; I want to include a logo in my copyright line. I have here a one-page sheet consisting of a score and a markup block which contains the text for verses 2 to 4. Now according to annotate-spacing, I have 11.13pt of space left. The image in the screenshot was included with the command \epsfile #Y #6 #inc/filename.eps But even if I increase the image's height from 6 to a mere 7, the markup above is pushed to a second page. Can you please explain to me why that is and, ideally, how I can get around that? For future projects, where I don't have so much space left -- like multipage scores with a constant number of systems per page -- I think it would be best if I could make the image take up no additional vertical space at all, i.e. make it float above all other elements. My version is 2.12.3. There have been a _lot_ of changes in the spacing calculations between the version you're using and current stable, which is 2.14.2. I suggest trying with 2.14 and letting us know if the problems remain. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Grace at beginning of score
- Original Message - From: ornello dominik.hoer...@fun.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Grace at beginning of score What is the right way to write a grace note at the beginning of the score (or after a clef/time/key signature change)? Here is my attempt: Please check the documentation for grace notes - this is well documented. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns#grace-notes Known issues and concerns. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break
- Original Message - From: Zsolt Cselényi zsolt.csele...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:16 PM Subject: lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break Hi! I am working with music (chant) using the modern transcription of ancient music as recommended. I noticed that the line breaks, which can occur between any two words or even between syllables in a single word, do not take into consideration the lyric hyphens so they many times end up going outside the right end of the staff. This is really annoying and I tried many many tricks and workarounds to no avail. So I give up and ask for help from you. Is it possible in any way to keep the hyphens within limits? Thanks for any advice! Zsolt Please provide a tiny example which illustrates your difficulty. http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Subdivide beam bug 2.15.33?
Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote in message
news:4f5acab6.8090...@internode.on.net...
I would expect that all four beams should be subdivided, but only the
second beam in the bar is being subdivided:
\version 2.15.33
\relative c' {
\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
\set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) \set subdivideBeams = ##t
\times 4/6 { \repeat unfold 24 { c16 } } |
}
For the record, this was added as
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2386
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Re: Test
Looks like it's just taking a while to filter through. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: John Link To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 7:33 PM Subject: Test This is the third message I've sent to the list. I did not receive the other two despite having specified in my settings that I am to receive copies of messages I send. If anyone can tell me what I need to do I would appreciate it. Thanks, John Link johnl...@nyc.rr.com http://www.cdbaby.com/all/johnlink http://www.myspace.com/johnlinkproject -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond
- Original Message - From: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca To: Vaughan McAlley vaug...@mcalley.net.au Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:09 AM Subject: Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond Hi Vaughan, Finale does automatic word extensions for lyrics. Um… so does Lilypond. Cheers, Kieren. __ Strictly, I don't believe it does automatic extenders - you need to add underscores to get them. Anyway, I'm a reluctant Sibelius user (need to use it for college) and I find its inability to edit music a complete PITA. For example, I'd created a chord with 3 notes and then moved onto other notes. I then wanted to add a further note to the chord. Whenever I tried, it deleted the chord and replaced it with a note. The tutor and all the class could offer no better answer than to delete the chord and recreate it. There may be a way, but no-one knew it. Oh - and I'd entered some music which ran to 2 lines. I wanted it on one. I reduced the font size. No effect. I tried for at least 30 minutes before giving up. The way you edit in Sibelius is just so c**p. I don't edit directly into LilyPond (I use Noteworthy and convert) but anyone swapping to LilyPond must save time over Sibelius's arcane ways. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?)
- Original Message - From: Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?) Op Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:36:33 -0400 Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com schreef: For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond. Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all worked! Frescobaldi just tries if 'lilypond.exe' (or 'lilypond-windows.exe', which does not open a console window) can be found in the operating system's PATH. If not, you should open the preferences, select the 'lilypond' entry in the list and click 'Edit'. There, specify the full path to the lilypond-windows.exe program. But in upcoming Frescobaldi 2.0.5 I have added some additional logic to look for LilyPond in other locations, even if they are not in the PATH. Currently C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin is searched, and I can add more (need to test current git on Windows with newer LilyPond versions yet). -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) Clearly for windows only, but an alternative is to look in the program files directory for the shortcut. c# code that does this is: string ProgMenu = Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ProgramFiles); string [] LilyDirs = Directory.GetDirectories(ProgMenu, *lily*); -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musical logic: what dynamic after the repeat (picture attached)?
- Original Message - From: Nils l...@nilsgey.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:30 AM Subject: musical logic: what dynamic after the repeat (picture attached)? Hello list, What dynamic is in measure 3 after the repeat? p or f? And yes, I know it is better to write something explicit than implicit. I personally would write a new dynamic sign after ||: but how to interpret it if somebody did it like in the picture? Piano. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Manual bars: PDF and MIDI have different opinion on melismas
- Original Message - From: Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 5:24 PM Subject: Manual bars: PDF and MIDI have different opinion on melismas Dear list I just discovered that 2.14 produces different lyrics for PDF and MIDI output, when there are manual beams. Is this intentional? A minimal example is attached. Note that, in the PDF, the text three and four appears as expected under the notes, whereas in the MIDI, the notes on three and are regarded as a melisma. At first I thought it a regression over 2.12, but then found out that 2.12 did the same thing and I never noticed the errors in my old MIDIs. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' while (!asleep()) ++sheep; http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2414 -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: please help developers - 5 minutes a week will be enough!
Fixed now. I'd tested it as an existing user, but not adding a new one :-( Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu To: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Cc: LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 2:02 PM Subject: Re: please help developers - 5 minutes a week will be enough! Dear Janek, I tried to log in as a new user, but I'm getting the attached error (the address generating this error is http://www.philholmes.net/lilypond/regtests/makepassword.aspx) Best, Ádám On 2012.03.19., at 14:55, Janek Warchoł wrote: Dear LilyPond Friends, Our development team asks for your help - can you spare 5 minutes a week for Lily? No programming skills are required, all you need is a web browser; reading instructions takes less than 2 minutes. See here: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/grand-regression-test-checking.html cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Matching lyrics to a one measure divisi
The simplest way to do this is to use 2 explicit voices all the way through, and use spacer rests in the second voice where it has no notes. Use \oneVoice \voiceOne and \voiceTwo to change between using the explicit voices and the parts where the second voice is silent. If this can't be used for some reason, I think you can temporarily create a single new voice, but would need to check how this is done. Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Hayden Muhl To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:57 AM Subject: Matching lyrics to a one measure divisi I'm type setting an aria where there are optional low notes for a single measure. My normal approach when setting instrumental music does not work here, because the lyrics do not follow the notes properly. Here's my snippet. http://www.lilybin.com/hjtorv/1 The text la catena should match to the notes in measures 1 and 2. Che non cerca should follow starting on measure 3. I think I understand what the problem is, but I don't know how to fix it. There are three different voices, and the lyrics are following only one of them. There is one voice that contains the notes in measures 1, 3 and 4, and then two more voices for the notes in measure 2. I've had the same problem before when having to tie and slur between divisi and non-divisi sections of a score. Hopefully there is a sane method of getting this to work that I'm not aware of. - Hayden Muhl -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: al niente hairpin symbol
- Original Message -
From: Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu
To: LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:37 PM
Subject: al niente hairpin symbol
Dear List,
I noticed that when a glissando with a decrescendo hairpin attached to it is
broken into multiple lines, the 'al niente' sign is printed just before the
break. This is rather confusing, as one might think that the end-note of the
glissando, which appears in the next line, is actually a note that has to be
played (which, of course, is not true; as the decrescendo ends with al
niente, that sound must be silent, it just shows where the glissando should
end).
Is there any workaround for this? Currently I'm just putting a flageolet
sign below the note in the second line, but that's not very nice. Obviously,
the best would be if the hairpin would break with the glissando, in which
case it could end on the very first note of the second line.
Here's a very short example:
\relative c' {
\override Glissando #'breakable = ##t
\override Hairpin #'circled-tip = ##t
c1\ \glissando \break c'\!
}
Thanks for any help,
Ádám
=
I think the problem you're identifying here is one with how hairpins behave
at breaks and nothing to do with the glissando? See the attached: the first
hairpin should reach the next note, like the second hairpin does.
\relative c' {
\override Hairpin #'to-barline = ##f
c'1\ \break c\! \break
c\ c\!
\override Hairpin #'to-barline = ##t
c\ c\!
}
Am I missing an over-ride to make this happen?
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Re: fret-diagram, big black line across 1:st fret (no capo specified)
- Original Message -
From: bluelegend daniel.alberts...@comhem.se
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:35 AM
Subject: fret-diagram, big black line across 1:st fret (no capo specified)
Greetings fellow lilyponders.
I am using Lilypond 2.12.3 (still the standard in Ubuntu Lucid I guess).
Problem: When I try to add some standard fret-diagrams [practically
verbatim
from the manual] there always appears a big ugly black line all across the
1:st fret.
Tried to search but couldn't find any relevant previous posts. Help much
appreciated.
Below is a close to minimal example + the output:
%Produces big black line across 1:st fret, although no capo specified
\version 2.12.3
\paper{ ragged-right=##t }
{
c'1^\markup \fret-diagram-terse #x;0;2;0;2;0;
c'1^\markup \fret-diagram #6-x;5-0;4-2;3-0;2-2;1-0;
c'1^\markup \fret-diagram-terse #0;3;2;0;1;0;
}
http://old.nabble.com/file/p33544697/strange_fretdiagram_output.png
Best regards bluelegend :]
I know pretty much nothing about fret diagrams, but your zeroes looked
suspicious to me. I replaced them with a lower-case o and I lose the thick
line and it seems to me I get the diagrams you want.
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Re: Self-contained Lilypond in a Dropbox folder for Windows users?
I've installed Lilypond 10s of times (must be pushing hundreds) on Windows, and I just download the installer and double-click it. I'm assuming dropbox makes it look like a local folder, so I reckon all you'd need to do is point them to it for them to double click. Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Michael Ellis To: LilyPond User Group Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Self-contained Lilypond in a Dropbox folder for Windows users? I've been collaborating with some other members of my choral group who've decided to learn LilyPond (more converts, hooray!) to help with transcribing individual parts. For the OS X users, it was very easy to set up a folder in Dropbox that included the latest LilyPond.app bundle so I don't have to troubleshoot installation and version issues on their individual machines. Works great so far. Now I'm getting inquiries from Windows users. Is it possible to do the same thing for them, i.e. have a LilyPond Windows install self-contained in a Dropbox folder that they can just run with no other installation effort? I really want to avoid spending time figuring out why things aren't working in Vista :-( Thanks, Mike -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to group whole notes/semibreves in one system?
- Original Message - From: Klaus Föhl klaus.fo...@uni-giessen.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: How to group whole notes/semibreves in one system? Hello, One staff line with tenor and bass voices, discerned by stem direction. Now there comes a whole note/semibreve and the bass splits into bass one and bass two. How to show the middle note is bass one and not tenor two? \arpeggioBracket d a\arpeggio looks about right visually to group the two bass voices save that the bracket should be after the notes and not in front of them. How to achieve that? Cheers Klaus I've checked Elaine Gould and can't find a rule for this. I sing a lot, and my recollection is always seeing the bracket before the notes. I would be confused if it were after, since my eye would not be drawn to the bracket until after I'd started to sing the note. It would be even more difficult if the note was tied... -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution
- Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com seems the work is done. LSR is on 2.14 Thanks a lot for all your help!! Harm I'm catching up on the LSR emails, but thanks to both of you for the work you've done here. Looking forward to 2.16 -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Regression test checking
A reminder that there's a really easy way for LilyPond users to contribute to the development effort, with no skills required except being able to read music and use a browser. Full details are at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/grand-regression-test-checking.html or you can cut to the chase and go direct to http://www.philholmes.net/lilypond/regtests/ It can be a quite enjoyable way to spend a few boring moments at your desk, and who knows - you might pick up a few LilyPond tips at the same time. Thanks to those who are already helping in this way. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Regression test checking
- Original Message - From: Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 10:53 PM Subject: Re: Regression test checking On 01/04/12 00:26, Phil Holmes wrote: A reminder that there's a really easy way for LilyPond users to contribute to the development effort, with no skills required except being able to read music and use a browser. Full details are at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/grand-regression-test-checking.html Sounds like a good application for a blink comparator - I can remember using a mechanical one at the Perth Observatory many years ago during a school holiday job that my physics teacher setup for me, but they're now available as software. You load two images, register them (i.e. align a point on each image to co-incide), and then switch rapidly between them, which makes any difference between the images immediately obvious. Nick This application isn't about checking the regtests haven't changed, but rather to check that they're good regtests. There are over 1000, so checking they've not changed is done automatically. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pitch with null duration?
- Original Message -
From: Dossy Shiobara do...@panoptic.com
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Pitch with null duration?
Someone on IRC suggested a separate voice with hidden notes, just for
the slurs. I ended up going with this approach because it yielded the
best visual result:
\new Voice = intro_slurs {
\hideNotes
\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
\relative c' {
\key f \major
f g1 ~ | f g4
}
}
I'd suggest not permanently overriding collision detection - in any complex
score this is likely to lead to collisions. \once \override where
appropriate is safer.
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Re: Pitch with null duration?
- Original Message - From: Dossy Shiobara do...@panoptic.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Pitch with null duration? Oh, interesting -- coming from a traditional TeX background, LilyPond really confuses me. Is \override inside a \new Voice not confined to the scope of that Voice? Please don't top-post. I'm sure you can find this out from the internals documentation, but it seems to me that, since it's trying to resolve collisions between stems in different voices, it can't be voice-local. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \markup beneath a fermata?
- Original Message -
From: Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:47 AM
Subject: \markup beneath a fermata?
Hi all,
In the following (last note in my bass clef), I'd like the \markup to
appear *below* the \fermata, for obvious reasons. What's the best way
to accomplish this?
\clef F c,2._\fermata _\markup \small \italic {(Blue Bk 139)}
Thanks so much.
Gordon+
\once \override Script #'outside-staff-priority = #1
should do what you want.
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Re: Multiple-staff ossia
- Original Message - From: Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu To: lilypond-user Users lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 2:05 PM Subject: Multiple-staff ossia Dear List, is there a way to create a multiple-staff ossia? I need to expand a divisi section in a string part score that lasts a couple of bars only. The basic idea would be to have a StaffGroup that starts in the middle of the page (at the point where the divisi section begins) and which end at the end of the divisi section. I tried the same solution that works for single-stave ossias as explained in the Documentation, but unfortunately that doesn't work (the main problem is that the bracket starts at the beginning of the line and also it was not possible to assign instrumentName and/or shordInstrumentName values to the ossia staves created that way). Thank you for any help, Ádám === From your description, I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Could you provide a small graphic showing what you have, and another edited version to show what you want? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Two voice notes with one voice rests
- Original Message -
From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:17 PM
Subject: Two voice notes with one voice rests
Hello,
how can I write accords with stems like as used in two voices?
In the following example I would like to us the notes and stems from the
first measure and the rests from the second measure.
\relative c'' {
{ d8 r d r d r d r } \\ { b8 r b r b r b r }
b d r b d r b d r b d r
}
Regards,
Helge
Here's one way:
\relative c'' {
{ \override Rest #'staff-position = #0 d8 r d r d r d r } \\ { b8 s b
s b s b s }
b d r b d r b d r b d r
}
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Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius
- Original Message - From: Josiah Boothby josi...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user Mailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:34 AM Subject: musicxml2ly from sibelius A composer recently gave me a messy part he'd prepared with Sibelius, and I asked him for a musicxml file on the off chance that it might work in Lilypond and I could clean it up. With Lilypond 2.15.36 (Slackware 13.37, x86), I get the error below along with no output file. I tried the prebuilt lilypond stable as well, and the only difference in the console output are line numbers in the musicxml2ly script. Should I send this to the bugs list, or is there something I can do as a user (without access to Sibelius) to improve the likelihood of getting this to work? # # # # # Console Output $ musicxml2ly -v --loglevel=DEBUG --nd --nrp --npl --no-beaming -o moore.ly moore.xml Setting loglevel to DEBUG musicxml2ly: Reading MusicXML from moore.xml ... musicxml2ly: Converting to LilyPond expressions... Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2984, in module main() File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2979, in main voices = convert (filename, options) File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2885, in convert (voices, staff_info) = get_all_voices (parts) File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2572, in get_all_voices part_ly_voices[n] = musicxml_voice_to_lily_voice (v) File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2174, in musicxml_voice_to_lily_voice for a in musicxml_direction_to_lily (n): File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 1534, in musicxml_direction_to_lily ev = tmp_tp (entry) File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 1465, in musicxml_metronome_to_ly if isinstance (children[index], musicxml.BeatUnitDot): IndexError: list index out of range # # # # # End Console Output ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user I'm a bit surprised you have musicxml from Sibelius. As far as I was aware, it doesn't export into _any_ useful interchange format, including musicxml. How big is the XML file? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly lilypond output formatting
- Original Message - From: Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl To: lilypond-user mailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: musicxml2ly lilypond output formatting BTW: Are there any written rules/conventions about how a nicely formatted lilypond source should look? -- MT There's some guidance on http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/lilypond-formatting -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting
You can centre text above a bar line using a rehearsal mark; see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/bars#rehearsal-marks As to the issue with the rest: it seems to me that lilypond is doing the right thing here: a rest _is_ just the rectangle: the line comes from a ledger line. Removing some of the lines from the score prevents this appearance from happening. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Gagi Petrovic To: Hans Aikema Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:35 AM Subject: Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting Yes, thank you Hans. I did \override MultiMeasureRest #'staff-position = #-0.05 This looks pretty good and it will do. Although I still feel as if the correct positioning (with a small horizontal line) will look more logical and elegant. But I remain with my main issue: - How do I add text which is aligned with certain barlines? This is quite common for percussion notation to indicate which line represents which (part of an) instrument. In my case: which part of a gong to strike (center, mid or edge). Anyone got a clue where to start looking? I don't mind doing some research: just can't seem to find a starting point. Thank you and all the best, Gagi -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hideNotes in tablature
- Original Message - From: Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com To: James pkx1...@gmail.com Cc: Devel lilypond-de...@gnu.org; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:13 PM Subject: Re: hideNotes in tablature Il 15/04/2012 12:06, Federico Bruni ha scritto: Yes, issue 1459 is fixed. How can I change the label to fixed in the tracker? I guess I can't: Only project owners and committers can edit issue metadata. These users see additional fields when entering a new issue or adding a comment. The drop-down auto-complete menu for each field will help you enter commonly used values. However, for the labels, you are free to enter new or uncommon labels simply by typing them. http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/IssueTrackerFAQ#Edit_issue_labels__metadata Can you add me to the members? Done. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: piano hand bracket
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=466 Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Mario Moles To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: piano hand bracket Hi lilyponders! How can I do what I scored in the picture? I'm sorry for his bad qualities! In particular I am interested in the sign with another hand to make a note on the stave of the piano! Hi! -- oiram/bin/selom Da ognuno secondo le proprie capacità ad ognuno secondo i propri bisogni. -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \break not working properly
You can over-ride automatic breaking with
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-permission = ##f
Phil Holmes
- Original Message -
From: MING TSANG
To: lilypond-usermailinglist
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:40 PM
Subject: \break not working properly
Sorry about this long snippet. The \break seems not working all the times.
I am puzzled - if I don't use both \include and its content the \break works
as intended. There must have some coding inside the \include that make the
\break not behave as intended. Help appreciated.
% {
\version 2.15.37
\include english.ly
%\include include_number-notehead_smaller.ly
#(define Ez_numbers_engraver
(list
(cons 'acknowledgers
(list
(cons 'note-head-interface
(lambda (engraver grob source-engraver)
(let* ((context (ly:translator-context engraver))
(tonic-pitch (ly:context-property context 'tonic))
(tonic-name (ly:pitch-notename tonic-pitch))
(grob-pitch
(ly:event-property (event-cause grob) 'pitch))
(grob-name (ly:pitch-notename grob-pitch))
(delta (modulo (- grob-name tonic-name) 7))
(note-names
(make-vector 7 (number-string (1+ delta)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'note-names
note-names
EzNum = {
\easyHeadsOn
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #1.4
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-thickness = #1.4
\override Staff.NoteHead #'font-size = #+2.5
\override Staff.Clef #'font-size = #+1.25
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'font-size = #+1.25
\override Staff.Accidental #'font-size = #+1.25
\override Voice.NoteHead #'font-size = #-5.0
}
ti = : My God, How Wonderful Thou Art
st =
sy=6
%\include include_paper-header-footer-filename-footnote.ly
date = #(strftime %Y-%m-%d (localtime (current-time)))
#( define comml ( object-string (command-line )))
#( define loc ( + (string-rindex comml #\space ) 2 ))
#( define commllen ( - (string-length comml ) 2 ))
#( define filen ( substring comml loc commllen ))
\header {
title = \ti
subtitle = \st
composer = \date
arranger = [yMt]
copyright = \markup { line (\fromproperty #'header:title) }
tagline = \markup {
Engraved on
\simple #(strftime %x at %X (localtime (current-time)))
with
\with-url #http://lilypond.org/web/; {
LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version) (http://lilypond.org/)
}
}
}
odbolTagline = \markup {
Music engraving by \italic { Score Your Music } (url.example.net)
using LilyPond (www.lilypond.org)
}
#(define (part-not-first-page layout props arg)
(if (not (= (chain-assoc-get 'page:page-number props -1)
(ly:output-def-lookup layout 'first-page-number)))
(interpret-markup layout props arg)
empty-stencil))
\paper {
#(set-paper-size letter)
%%{
system-system-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 8)
(minimum-distance . 6)
(padding . 1)
(stretchability . 15))
indent = #(* mm 0)
interscoreline = 8\mm
between-system-space =5\mm
ragged-bottom = ##t
print-first-page-number = ##t
two-sided=##t
binding-offset = 0\mm
inner-margin = 0.7\in
outer-margin = 0.3\in
markup-system-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 10) (minimum-distance . 10)
(padding . 2) (stretchability . 3))
system-system-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 20) (minimum-distance . 20)
(padding . 2) (stretchability . 3))
systems-per-page=\sy
top-system-spacing #'basic-distance = #7
top-markup-spacing #'basic-distance = #5
last-bottom-spacing #'basic-distance = #10
top-system-spacing #'stretchability = #30
top-markup-spacing #'stretchability = #10
last-bottom-spacing #'stretchability = #20
markup-system-spacing #'stretchability = #20
%}
%%{
oddFooterMarkup = \markup {
\column {
\fill-line {
\line { \fromproperty #'header:title }
\line {
\on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first
\fromproperty #'page:page-number-string
of \concat { \page-ref #'lastPage 0 ?}
}
}
}
}
evenFooterMarkup = \markup {
\column {
\fill-line {
\line { \fromproperty #'header:title }
\line {
\on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first
\fromproperty #'page:page-number-string
of \concat { \page-ref #'lastPage 0 ?}
}
}
}
}
}
%
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
#(set-default-paper-size letter)
mbk = \break
global = {\key af\major \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 90
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
}
%}
SSa = \relative c' { \partial 4
\override Score.BarNumber #'stencil = #(make-stencil-circler 0.1 0.25
ly:text-interface::print)
\dynamicUp
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
%{bar00-03%} c4 f4 f4 g4 f8 g8 | af4 bf8 af8 g4 af8 bf8 | c4 f,4 f4 ef4 | f2.
\bar \mbk
%{bar03-07%} c4 | f4 f4 g4 g8 af8 | bf4. c8 bf4 af8 g8 | f4 f4 c4 g'4 | f2.
\bar \mbk
%{bar07-11%} af8 bf8 | c4 c4 bf4 bf8 c8 | df4 df4 c4c8 df8 | ef4 c4 bf4 af4 |
g2. \bar\mbk
%{bar11-15%} c,4 | f4 f4 g4 f8 g8 | af4 bf8 af8 g4 af8 bf8 | c4 f,4 f4 ef4
Re: measure counter engraver
You're OK uploading it to the LSR providing you don't tag it with docs - it's only those that are imported into the documentation system. Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: David Nalesnik To: David Kastrup Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org ; lilypond-de...@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:19 PM Subject: Re: measure counter engraver David, .Any problems which might result will only affect that multi-file run? Basically every use of lilypond-book is a multi-file run. So are our regtests. Understood. I also won't upload this to the LSR at the current time since it could potentially cause annoyances the next time it is updated. But I don't think someone should necessarily be _scared_ to try my file out. If it's being used in a multi-file situation, the user would simply need to be on the lookout for unexpected results. If there are any, the solution is simply to run the files again without mine. -David -- ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-de...@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: String Bass Notation
- Original Message - From: Tim Roberts t...@probo.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: Re: String Bass Notation Vaughan McAlley wrote: On 19 April 2012 03:08, Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote: This is a hand-drawn score. I'm thinking that they probably meant snap pizzicato, and it was easier to draw the line all the way through than to stop part way through. Snap pizzicato would fit in the context, and I have found no source that shows the exact phi symbol. Have any of you string players seen that notation? Snap pizzicato and the very Victorian Arthur Sullivan don’t really gel together in my mind. I wish I could offer an alternative theory. Well, this orchestration is from the 1981 Joseph Papp revival that was used for the Linda Ronstadt / Kevin Kline movie version. It contains a number of improvements over the original. The notation occurs in With Cat-Like Tread, where the pirates stomp around loudly while all the time bragging (loudly) about how quiet they are. By now the point is moot, because the scores have gone back to the rental agency, but I appreciate the comments. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. s/improvements/changes/ -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tuplet number placement and ornament
- Original Message -
From: Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: tuplet number placement and ornament
In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket
stencil, the tuplet number is still placed as though the stencil was
there:
\version 2.15.37
\relative c'' {
\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
\override TupletBracket #'stencil = ##f
\times 2/3 { g8 fis g g\mordent fis g }
}
If you want to get rid of the number, use TupletNumber (appropriately).
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Re: Controlling slur engraver
- Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:11 PM Subject: Controlling slur engraver Hello, I want to prepare a score that should include the slurs. I was requested to remove the slurs, since the historic scores did not have such things, only acciaturas similar have slurs. But I would like to keep the slurs inside the Lilypond sources and use the benefit of Lilyponds engravers. As a matter of interest, what period is this? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Controlling slur engraver
- Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Controlling slur engraver Am 01.05.2012 14:26, schrieb Phil Holmes: As a matter of interest, what period is this? That's 18th century. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Wilhelm_Hertel Regards, Helge In that period, I would have certainly expected most composers to be using slurs. Mozart certainly was, as evidenced by lots of his manuscripts. Gardner Read (page 265) says that they were commonly used in 17th and 18th century music, placing them over two notes of short duration to indicate accentuation. He also says that it was commonly used in the eighteenth century to indicate legato. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: pngtopnm missing?
I don't know why this happens, but you can cure it simply by replacing all the other options you're using with -fpng: lilypond -fpng test.ly -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Chris Crossen To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:30 AM Subject: pngtopnm missing? I am trying to create a .png file from a LilyPond score. I am running Windows XP. I'm getting an error about pngtopnm. Is it part of LilyPond? Should I have it as part of the install? Below is my run output. Thank you, Chris Crossen C:\ScoreWork\datalilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts -dresolution=96 -danti-alias-factor=2 --png test.ly GNU LilyPond 2.14.2 Processing `test.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8] Preprocessing graphical objects... Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Layout output to `test.eps'... Converting to PNG...'pngtopnm' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. GS exited with status: 255 -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: pngtopnm missing?
I'm sorry I still can't answer your exact question, but I can give some pointers. pngtopnm is a standard image file format converter on unix boxes, and so I guess Lily assumes it's there for some of its operations, and it isn't on Windows. Hence the error message. In my experiments, using --png with -dresolution=nnn gives exactly the same output as -dresolution=nnn/3 -danti-alias-factor=3 - so it appears not worth using the anti alias factor at all. Accepting that you will never get an image file as good looking as PDF, since PDF scales, then something like lilypond --png -dresolution=900 should give you a better image than you need. Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Chris Crossen To: 'Phil Holmes' ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:54 PM Subject: RE: pngtopnm missing? That's what I tried first. It works, but the .PNG files don't look anywhere near as good as the PDFs. I was trying to get a good-looking .PNG file with the -danti-alias-factor=2 parameter. From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 0:46 To: Chris Crossen; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: pngtopnm missing? I don't know why this happens, but you can cure it simply by replacing all the other options you're using with -fpng: lilypond -fpng test.ly -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Chris Crossen To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:30 AM Subject: pngtopnm missing? I am trying to create a .png file from a LilyPond score. I am running Windows XP. I'm getting an error about pngtopnm. Is it part of LilyPond? Should I have it as part of the install? Below is my run output. Thank you, Chris Crossen C:\ScoreWork\datalilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts -dresolution=96 -danti-alias-factor=2 --png test.ly GNU LilyPond 2.14.2 Processing `test.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8] Preprocessing graphical objects... Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Layout output to `test.eps'... Converting to PNG...'pngtopnm' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. GS exited with status: 255 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ukulele string tunings
- Original Message - From: Choan Gálvez choan.gal...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Ukulele string tunings On 5/12/12 16:08 , David Kastrup wrote: Not sure about the renaming. Of course, strings need to get reversed. Should I open an issue about the reversing? No - please follow http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cantor and choir
- Original Message -
From: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
To: Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger kai.lautenschlae...@me.com
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: cantor and choir
2012/5/14 Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger kai.lautenschlae...@me.com:
Hi Everyone,
typesetting liturgical music I need a solution for the following problem:
I have a solo system in change with a choir staff. solo staff should go on
in highest choirstaff system (first tenor) when solo changes to choir.
choirstaff (complete) should vanish completely, when choir changes to
solo.
I could find a solution in the lilypond help. Can anyone suggest an idea?
Have you tried \stopStaff \startStaff and
\layout {
\context {
\Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
}
}
===
What about:
\layout {
\context {
\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
}
}
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Re: translate a pdf file
- Original Message - From: D'Arcy Cain da...@druid.net To: fabio fabiogabbiane...@me.com Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:37 PM Subject: Re: translate a pdf file On 12-05-17 05:52 AM, fabio wrote: sorry i'm still at beginner level..!i want to know if it's possible to get a ly file from a pdf,if there's any way to translate a pdf file to ly file!thank you! Other than reading it and retyping, no. It's like trying to make eggs from omelets. Not to say it won't ever be possible. Think OCR. Actually I do this quite regularly. My workflow is rather cumbersome and could be improved, but it works for me. 1. Create image files from pdf. 2. Use SharpEye to do OCR 3. Correct OCR in SharpEye 4. Export to MusicXML 5. Export MusicXML to Noteworthy 6. Recorrrect and add tweaks. 7. Export Noteworthy and translate to .ly 8. Create PDF in LilyPond It sounds long-winded but I bet I could beat a manual retyper for any reasonable score. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Beaming regression 2.15.39 compared to 2.14.2
- Original Message -
From: m...@apollinemike.com
To: Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: Beaming regression 2.15.39 compared to 2.14.2
On 24 mai 2012, at 12:04, Urs Liska wrote:
Am 24.05.2012 11:57, schrieb Toine Schreurs:
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 05:13:55PM +1000, Nick Payne wrote:
In 2.14.2, the output for the second bar beams all five eighth notes
together, as I would expect. In 2.15.39, the first eighth note is not
beamed with the others:
\relative c'' {
\time 3/4
c8 c c c c c
r c c c c c
}
It apparently is different from 2.14.2, but I would not call this a
regression.
In 3/4, I would like to have 6 eights beamed together, but if any
rests are involved, the beaming should be per quarter in order to
preserve the 3-beat character. In:
\relative c'' {
\time 3/4
r4 r8 c c c
}
the default beaming in 2.14.2 gives an impression of a 2-beat, which
should
be avoided.
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Just one comment, a question that I had several times when reading such
reports.
Don't know if this applies here, but:
A regression is something that doesn't work in a later version and that
has _deliberately_ worked in a previous version. I.e. something that has
once been fixed to work in that specific way.
If it just was correct and isn't anymore, it isn't considered a
regression but just a newly introduced bug.
Best
Urs
Still a regression. Any change in behavior that is not fully accounted for
in the change log and that you feel leads to worse behavior than a
previous version is a regression. People can then either report it as a
change, at which point it is a feature, or they can fix it, at which point
the old functionality is restored.
Looks to me like a bug in 2.14.2. Beaming 5 quavers together doesn't give
much clue to the beat pattern?
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Re: Beaming regression 2.15.39 compared to 2.14.2
- Original Message -
From: m...@apollinemike.com
To: Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: Beaming regression 2.15.39 compared to 2.14.2
On 24 mai 2012, at 12:04, Urs Liska wrote:
Am 24.05.2012 11:57, schrieb Toine Schreurs:
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 05:13:55PM +1000, Nick Payne wrote:
In 2.14.2, the output for the second bar beams all five eighth notes
together, as I would expect. In 2.15.39, the first eighth note is not
beamed with the others:
\relative c'' {
\time 3/4
c8 c c c c c
r c c c c c
}
It apparently is different from 2.14.2, but I would not call this a
regression.
In 3/4, I would like to have 6 eights beamed together, but if any
rests are involved, the beaming should be per quarter in order to
preserve the 3-beat character. In:
\relative c'' {
\time 3/4
r4 r8 c c c
}
the default beaming in 2.14.2 gives an impression of a 2-beat, which
should
be avoided.
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Just one comment, a question that I had several times when reading such
reports.
Don't know if this applies here, but:
A regression is something that doesn't work in a later version and that
has _deliberately_ worked in a previous version. I.e. something that has
once been fixed to work in that specific way.
If it just was correct and isn't anymore, it isn't considered a
regression but just a newly introduced bug.
Best
Urs
Still a regression. Any change in behavior that is not fully accounted for
in the change log and that you feel leads to worse behavior than a
previous version is a regression. People can then either report it as a
change, at which point it is a feature, or they can fix it, at which point
the old functionality is restored.
Regression or no regression, think
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2246 caused this change.
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Re: How to cancel voice so ties are right direction
- Original Message - From: Jeff Barnes jbarnes...@yahoo.com To: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org; lilypond-user@gnu.org I looked at the grammar at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/lilypond-grammar. Where is \voiceXXX defined? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [OT] was Re: Appreciation / Financial support
- Original Message - From: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca To: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org I don't think that the last bugs category can be closed while Donald Knuth is alive In January 2009, I presented one of my mathematical papers at a conference in San Francisco. Much to my surprise, at one of the other sessions I attended (on the mathematics origami), Mr Knuth sat next to me. We struck up a small conversation, prompted by me telling him that I referenced his paper in the one I had just presented. Ultimately, I told him thanks — on behalf of everyone — for TeX. He seems like a wonderful man. Cheers, Kieren. I had a similar experience travelling to a conference in Washington. I was reading Simon Singh's book The secret history of codes and code breaking in my hotel room the evening before the conference, and had just got to the section on asymmetric key encryption. I was working hard to understand it, and admiring Diffie and Hellman's work. Something made me pick up the programme to see who was speaking the next day, and the first speaker was none other than Whit Diffie. I had a great we are not worthy experience then and next day when I met him. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with pango font tree and global staff size
- Original Message -
From: Tao Cumplido tao_lilypondu...@gmx.net
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:45 AM
Subject: Issue with pango font tree and global staff size
Dear list,
I am having a problem with using a custom pango font tree and
set-global-staff-size at the same time.
If I set the staff size before the \paper block only the staff lines
change, the feta glyphs and text don't.
But if I set the staff-size after the \paper block it resets the pango
font tree to the default lily fonts.
I made two snippets for demonstration. Both tested with 2.14.2 and 2.15.39
with the same results.
%%%
% 1.ly
%%%
music = { a4^Markup b c' d' }
\paper
{
#(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree
Linux Libertine
Linux Biolinum
Courier New
(/ 20 20)))
}
#(set-global-staff-size 15)
\score
{
\new Staff \music
\layout { }
}
%%%
% 2.ly
%%%
#(set-global-staff-size 15)
music = { a4^Markup b c' d' }
\paper
{
#(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree
Linux Libertine
Linux Biolinum
Courier New
(/ 20 20)))
}
\score
{
\new Staff \music
\layout { }
}
Unfortunately, this is a known bug with Lilypond. See
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1129
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Re: how to underline or italic a single word in lyric?
- Original Message - From: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca To: Jay Hamilton i...@soundand.com Cc: lilypond user group lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: how to underline or italic a single word in lyric? Hi Jay, Sorry but it's not in the v2.14 pdf manual. That may be true (I haven't checked), but it's definitely in the HTML version: So the question now is: What has to be done to synchronize the HTML and PDF version(s) of the documentation? Nevertheless, problem solved Glad to hear it. Cheers, Kieren. == That example is definitely in the PDF manual. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Make visible note silent
- Original Message - From: ornello dominik.hoer...@fun.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Make visible note silent Hello David, dak-3 wrote: You can have one tag for the note, and one tag for a silent replacement, and then remove one in the midi version, and one in the printed version. I see. But this forces me write everything twice. Isn't there an easier solution to set the volume = 0 for a note? ornello If you check the documentation I think you'll find no need to write _everything_ twice. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem doing Scheme tutorial
- Original Message - From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:09 PM Subject: Problem doing Scheme tutorial Dear fellow-users, After failing to write what I thought should be a fairly simple define-music-function, I thought, this is it: Learn something about Scheme in a more structured way, old chap! One can only go on for so long relying on the (invariably kind and expert, and mostly very patient) advice from fellow users on this forum. I did what was told to me by the Extending manual: 1.1.1 Scheme sandbox The LilyPond installation includes the Guile implementation of Scheme. On most systems you can experiment in a Scheme sandbox by opening a terminal window and typing 'guile'. On some systems, notably Windows, you may need to set the environment variable GUILE_LOAD_PATH to the directory ../usr/shr/guile/1.8 in the LilyPond installation. For the full path to this directory see Section Other sources of information in Learning Manual. Alternatively, Windows users may simply choose 'Run' from the Start menu and enter 'guile'. Once the guile sandbox is running, you will receive a guile prompt: guile You can enter Scheme expressions at this prompt to experiment with Scheme. What I got, however, when I ran the Command Prompt and typing guile, was the following: ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path Can anyone help, please? I am running LilyPond 2.14.2 under Windows 7 64-bit (in case that's relevant). Cheers, Philip I'm not sure if this will fix your problem, but it looks like there's a typo in those instructions - now corrected in the 2.15 release. shr in the path should be share. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with voices
- Original Message - From: Sami Amiris sami.ami...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:48 PM Subject: Problem with voices I am sorry for any inconvenience to the group. I am a relative newbie, and I need help. I've not looked at what you're doing in detail. However, it appears that you're using stemUp and stemDown, when the correct way to use multiple voices is with voiceOne, etc. Please read http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices and let us know if this doesn't help. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
- Original Message -
From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Dear fellow-users,
I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but
the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing
parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the
piece:
\version 2.14.2
\relative c'
\new Voice = melody {
\time 12/8
fis2.( f |
a4.) a4 g8 g4 f8 f4. |
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melody {
blue __ (oo -- by -- doo -- by -- doo)
}
I have looked but haven't succeeded in finding a reference to this in the
documentation or on the forum, but at this stage I don't feel confident in
reporting it as a bug. Any advice would be appreciated. Apologies, as
usual,
if I've missed an existing solution or explanation.
BTW, I know that I can solve the problem with a work-around, e.g.
enclosing
the syllable concerned in quotes as (oo produces the correct result, but
it's not a very elegant solution, especially for repeated instances.
I found I had to use the (word solution - I use a regex in my application
that creates lilypond code to do just this.
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Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
- Original Message -
From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch
To: 'Phil Holmes' m...@philholmes.net; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
-Original Message-
From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net]
Sent: Monday 11 June 2012 15:13
To: Philip Thomas; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
- Original Message -
From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Dear fellow-users,
I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses,
but
the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The
closing
parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from
the
piece:
\version 2.14.2
\relative c'
\new Voice = melody {
\time 12/8
fis2.( f |
a4.) a4 g8 g4 f8 f4. |
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melody {
blue __ (oo -- by -- doo -- by -- doo)
}
I have looked but haven't succeeded in finding a reference to this in
the
documentation or on the forum, but at this stage I don't feel
confident in
reporting it as a bug. Any advice would be appreciated. Apologies, as
usual,
if I've missed an existing solution or explanation.
BTW, I know that I can solve the problem with a work-around, e.g.
enclosing
the syllable concerned in quotes as (oo produces the correct result,
but
it's not a very elegant solution, especially for repeated instances.
I found I had to use the (word solution - I use a regex in my
application
that creates lilypond code to do just this.
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Thanks Phil,
Especially for a reply within minutes, if not mere seconds, from when I
posed the question!
Not quite the reply I was hoping for, but at least it suggests that I'm
not
barking up the wrong tree completely.
(If I were game enough, I might admit that when I first glanced at your
reference to the (word solution, I took you to mean MS Word, which can
be
quite handy, using macros, in working on .ly text files to do this sort of
task. But I'm not game enough.)
If other experienced users have encountered the same problem with opening
parentheses in lyrics, this seems to me to be significant enough to be
reported as a bug, but I'm not experienced in reporting real bugs as
distinct from apparent errors in the documentation. Would that be making a
mountain of a molehill?
Cheers, Philip
It was mentioned in earlier emails (as in lots of years ago) as a possible
bug, since you can't have slurs in lyrics. I think I'll send a report to
the bugs group.
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Re: transcribe notes
- Original Message - From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org To: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Cc: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com; lilypond-usermailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: Re: transcribe notes Janek Warchoł writes: I'm not sure. This is a music notation question: what's this?. Lily documentation aims to answer different kind of questions: how do i engrave this? and it assumes that the user knows what's what he wants. She wants a certain type of note. Chances are that she can find out which one it is by herself much easier when we have images of all notes available. Jan It's not too hard to find elsewhere, TBH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_value I'm not convinced we need to turn the Lilypond documentation into a general musical tutor, glossary notwithstanding. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: transcribe notes
Still the same answer: a breve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_whole_note -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: MING TSANG To: lilypond-usermailinglist Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: transcribe notes Sorry, forgot to include sample .png file. Blessing in+, - Forwarded Message - From: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com To: lilypond-usermailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:42:50 AM Subject: transcribe notes Hi, lily users: I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with vertical line on both side. What is this called and how to code in lily to generate it? Blessing in+, Ming. -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: playback gets out of sync with grace notes
- Original Message - From: ornello dominik.hoer...@fun.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 3:05 PM Subject: Re: playback gets out of sync with grace notes Hi again, has anybody been able to reproduce the sync problem? It is not a player problem - I could reproduce it with various MIDI players. Strangely enough, removing either measure 1 or measure 2 resolves the sync problem, so it is hard for me to find a simpler example... ornello From http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns: Each grace note in MIDI output has a length of 1/4 of its actual duration. If the combined length of the grace notes is greater than the length of the preceding note a Going back in MIDI timeerror will be generated. Either make the grace notes shorter in duration, for example Does this explain the problem and does the workaround help? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
- Original Message - From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:04 PM Subject: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear Dear fellow-users, I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the piece: You may like to check and eventually test David's work on http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2598 -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: -dshow-available-fonts vs. UNIX stdout?
- Original Message - From: James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com To: lily-users lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: Re: -dshow-available-fonts vs. UNIX stdout? On 6/20/12, Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@gmail.com wrote: probably lilypond isn't writing to stdout. maybe stderr? OK, let me refine the question. If it isn't using stdout, is there a good reason why is it using something else? Or is it just a bug? hjh As a general rule, Unix orientated programs direct the main output of the program to stdout, and other informative messages to stderr. The main output of lilypond is the pdf, which actually goes to a file. The informative messages (e.g. a list of fonts) continue to adopt the principle of going to stderr. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: -dshow-available-fonts vs. UNIX stdout?
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:38 AM Subject: Re: -dshow-available-fonts vs. UNIX stdout? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: - Original Message - From: James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com To: lily-users lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: Re: -dshow-available-fonts vs. UNIX stdout? On 6/20/12, Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@gmail.com wrote: probably lilypond isn't writing to stdout. maybe stderr? OK, let me refine the question. If it isn't using stdout, is there a good reason why is it using something else? Or is it just a bug? hjh As a general rule, Unix orientated programs direct the main output of the program to stdout, and other informative messages to stderr. The main output of lilypond is the pdf, which actually goes to a file. The informative messages (e.g. a list of fonts) continue to adopt the principle of going to stderr. It would be arguable that an explicitly requested list of fonts is not an informative message. For the record: if you call a typical GNU utility with bad options, it outputs correct usage information to stderr. If, in contrast, you call it with --help, it outputs correct usage information to stdout. In the first case, we are talking about diagnostics, in the second case, we are talking about requested output. -- David Kastrup On the other hand, it could be that it's seen as debug output, which should still go to stderr. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
It's almost certainly that you have simultaneous notes in 2 different voices, but have not told Lilypond how to avoid them occupying the same space. Check the notation reference for \voiceOne and \oneVoice. Oh - and the current released version is 2.14, with the current development version being 2.15.40. You're quoting old manuals. See http://lilypond.org/ -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Anders Eriksson To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:19 AM Subject: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns English is not my first language and I have some trouble understanding what this means If notes from two voices with stems in the same direction are placed at the same position, and both voices have no shift or the same shift specified, the error message warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns will appear when compiling the LilyPond file. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets/Simultaneous-notes#Suppressing-warnings-for-clashing-note-columns I understand how to suppress the warnings, but I also would like to understand why! // Anders -- Computer says No! -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Highlighting staves
With Sibelius, you can highlight part or all of a stave. It's intended as an aid to composition, to highlight where work is needed, but as a singer trying to find my stave amongst (quite often) seven others, I think it's useful. Is there a way of colouring the background to a stave in Lily? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Highlighting staves
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Highlighting staves Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net writes: With Sibelius, you can highlight part or all of a stave. It's intended as an aid to composition, to highlight where work is needed, but as a singer trying to find my stave amongst (quite often) seven others, I think it's useful. Is there a way of colouring the background to a stave in Lily? If you are going to make your own printout anyway, why not make all the other staffs significantly smaller? You can still track the rough context, but get more material on the page. The music I have most difficulty with is typically unaccompanied - often early madrigals and the like. If you get lost, the only way to get going again is to find what the other parts are singing and catch up - so being able to read their music quickly can still be a requirement. Also - highlighting means the page layout wouldn't change, whereas it would with size, and so the MD saying the bottom of page 2 would get me confused. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: combining pieces in one book
- Original Message -
From: Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger kai.lautenschlae...@me.com
To: lilypond-user User lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 2:53 PM
Subject: combining pieces in one book
Hi to all,
If this has been answered before, please point me there. I searched the
manual several times, but couldn't find an answer, that helped me.
I have many pieces for male choir, that are stored as .ly-files in a
directory with a subdirectory for every piece. All of them use some files
via \include command. Those files are situated in the parent directory.
Now I would like to make a book (one PDF with TOC and numbered pages) from
several of these pieces. And - to make it more complicated - this book
changes in content (the .ly-files are the repertoire, book will be the
selection for any given concert.
I am searching for a solution to _easily_ make those books without working
on the pieces-files. Using \bookpart gave a great number of errors and
didn't compile. Can anyone give me a starter, how to go about this?
Thanks
Kai
2 obvious options come to mind: lilypond-book, which is documented in the
Usage manual
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/usage/lilypond_002dbook.
Alternatively, you can simply use \book in the following way:
\book {
\markup { Some text }
\include AFile.ly
}
You would need to add your own contents page once the layout was sorted out.
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Re: Distribute staves evenly on page
- Original Message - From: Hartmut Leister haleis...@gmx.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: Distribute staves evenly on page Hello everybody, I have a choir piece where the systems/staves (not completely sure about the vocabulary) are distributed evenly on the first page, but on the second (and last) they're kind of crowded, although there's still enough space on the second page. Both pages have 5 systems/staves. How can I tell Lilypond to distribute the systems evenly on the last page? Best wishes Hartmut = Please look for ragged-last-bottom in the documentation. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: input question
- Original Message - From: yshhq pczh...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:09 PM Subject: input question http://old.nabble.com/file/p34062961/Untitled.png the 35th and 36th bar. I don't know how to get both 8vb and the connecting line. Can anyone please help? Thanks! http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#ottava-brackets Is this what you want? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Hello/ An die musik
Googling 'schubert an die musik lilypond' gives this: http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=1001 Instructions on transposition are here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/changing-multiple-pitches#transpose -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Rosel Labone To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:15 AM Subject: Hello/ An die musik Hi there Just downloaded Lilypond, but I am looking for a test copy of the Schubert piece An Die Musik. I was told it could be found (with the ability to transpose it) on your site. I need it in the key of C Major and I can't find it on the net. Can you please send it to me by email? I'd be most grateful. Regards, Rosel -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: thinking of submitting divisi snippet to LSR; comments?
- Original Message - From: Shevek s...@saultobin.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:07 AM Subject: thinking of submitting divisi snippet to LSR; comments? Hi all, I wrote a snippet several months ago to facilitate notating divisi staves, but I couldn't submit it to LSR because LSR was on 2.12 until recently. Now that LSR has been updated to 2.14, I'd love to get some comments on my snippet before I submit it. It's a bit long, so I've attached it as a file. My snippet relies on code from a couple other snippets already included in LSR. What is the best way to deal with that for submission to LSR? Right now, there are some situations, all involving partcombine, that still cause some undesired behavior and error messages. I've included test cases for all of these issues in the file. I'd really appreciate any suggestions on how to solve some of these errors (though of course I'll keep working on it in the mean time). http://old.nabble.com/file/p34084271/divisi_test2.ly divisi_test2.ly The general aim of the LSR is not to be too prescriptive about what users put there for other users to find and use. However, to be useful in this way, it works best if snippets are short and easily understood. They should really also compile error free. From this perspective I would see problems with your proposed snippet - I think it's trying to demonstrate too much in a single snippet - I would be tempted to split it into 4 snippets, each illustrating a single partcombine feature. I would also work to get rid of the errors, if necessary by creating tiny snippets for each and raising bug reports. Finally, I think refererencing other snippets is fine - I would flag this in the comment % This idea taken from LSR 123 or similar. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Regression test rater
First of all, thanks to those who have spent time and energy rating the regression test at http://www.philholmes.net/lilypond/regtests/ - we're very close to having a rating for all the tests. I'd like to let you know that I've updated the way it works to how it really should have been in the first place - tests with the fewest ratings are presented before tests with a number of ratings, so every rating added now will be the first for that regtest - we've only a few to get that initial rating, so please have another go. Please be assured that all the ratings have been captured, and once we have sufficient, I will make sure that the regtests are updated to take account of the comments. Thanks again, and please give it a further push. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Global font and global size malfunction
I believe this is a known issue:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1129
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- Original Message -
From: Mario Moles
To: lilypond-user
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:34 PM
Subject: Global font and global size malfunction
Hi lilyponders!
In the example make-pango-font-tree and #(set-global-staff-size 16)
malfunction:
The font does not change if #(set-global-staff-size 16 is active.
You have an answer?
thank you!
\version 2.15.40
\header {
% Elimina la tagline predefinita di LilyPond
tagline = ##f
}
#(set! paper-alist (cons '(my size . (cons (* 5 cm) (* 2 cm))) paper-alist))
\paper{
#(set-paper-size my size)
myStaffSize = #16
#(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree URW Palladio L
URW Palladio L
URW Palladio L
(/ myStaffSize 16)))
}
#(set-global-staff-size 16)
global = {
\key c \major
\time 4/4
}
sopranoVoice = \relative c'' {
\global
\dynamicUp
% Qui segue la musica.
a b c d
}
verse = \lyricmode {
% Qui seguono le parole.
Q we r ty
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {
midiInstrument = choir aahs
} { \sopranoVoice }
\addlyrics { \verse }
\layout { }
\midi {
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 100 4)
}
}
}
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Re: Custom alternative/volta names
- Original Message -
From: Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt
To: lilypond lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 3:17 PM
Subject: Custom alternative/volta names
Hello
I am looking into
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets/Repeats#Volta-text-markup-using-repeatCommands
trying to set custom text in both alternatives...
Defined the texts:
voltaA = \markup{\text \italic{para repetir}}
voltaB = \markup{\text \italic{para terminar}}
Was trying this code:
\set Score.repeatCommands = #(list (list 'volta voltaA) 'start-repeat)
\time 4/4 ees2. ees,8 bes'
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (list 'volta voltaB) end-repeat)
ees2.
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
\bar |.
Although the first text (voltaA) works, the second doesn't (I get a 2).
Is it any think wrong in the list, easy to detect?
Thank you
Alberto
I believe you need to make the whole of your second repeat command into a
list:
\set Score.repeatCommands = #(list '(volta #f) (list 'volta voltaB)
'end-repeat)
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Re: Download site down?
Seems fine now. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Mark Mathias To: LilyPond User List Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Download site down? Btw, a friend to whom I had introduced Lilypond tried to download v.2.14 yesterday, but the site appeared to be down. Does anyone know if this is/was the case? If yes, is it up yet? -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LSR snippet Controlling of the pitch range in a score broken at2.15.40
- Original Message -
From: Patrick or Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 5:07 PM
Subject: LSR snippet Controlling of the pitch range in a score broken
at2.15.40
The LSR snippet Controlling of the pitch range in a score contains the
code for a function, colorizeOutOfRange. This function works at 2.14.2,
but doesn't at 2.15.40.
This can be demonstrated by compiling the following:
\include ./colorize.ly
music = \relative c' { c d e f g a b }
\new Staff { \colorizeOutOfRange d' a' \music }
where the file colorize.ly contains the following code from the cited
snippet:
colorizeOutOfRange = #(define-music-function (parser location
low-note high-note music )(ly:music? ly:music?
ly:music?)
Colorizes in red notes out of range `low-note `high-note
(let* (
(low-elts (ly:music-property low-note 'elements))
(high-elts (ly:music-property high-note 'elements))
(low-pitch (and (pair? low-elts)
(ly:music-property (car low-elts) 'pitch)))
(high-pitch (and (pair? high-elts)
(ly:music-property (car high-elts) 'pitch
(if (and (ly:pitch? low-pitch)
(ly:pitch? high-pitch)
(ly:pitch? low-pitch high-pitch))
(music-map
(lambda (evt)
(let ((p (ly:music-property evt 'pitch)))
(if (and (ly:pitch? p)
(or (ly:pitch? p low-pitch)
(ly:pitch? high-pitch p)))
(let ((tweaks (ly:music-property evt 'tweaks)))
(ly:music-set-property! evt 'tweaks
(acons 'color red tweaks
evt))
music)
music)))
When compiled with lilypond 2.14.2 the notes c and b are colored red.
When compiled with lilypond 2.15.40, all notes are black.
Does anyone know a fix for colorizeOutOfRange?
Have you tried updating it with convert-ly?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/usage/invoking-convert_002dly
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Re: Issues with timidity, and the MIDI output
- Original Message - From: Rokil misterro...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 4:29 PM Subject: Issues with timidity, and the MIDI output Hi everybody, I'm new here, and I'm trying to arrange Bella Ciao for my jazzband. And to check my work, I wanted to hear it, so I tried with Timidity++. Here's my code (thanks to SefandeVries! ;)): http://paste.awesom.eu/Gloomy/W0jln If I try to make it savable as a MIDI, I tried to add \set midiInstrument to each instrument: http://paste.awesom.eu/Gloomy/EfKln So I try timidity bella_ciao.midi, and it output me: $ timidity bella_ciao.midi Requested buffer size 32768, fragment size 8192 ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 33868, period size 3760 bytes Playing bella_ciao.midi MIDI file: bella_ciao.midi Format: 1 Tracks: 5 Divisions: 384 Sequence: control track Text: creator: Text: GNU LilyPond 2.14.2 Track name: Violon: Track name: Clarinette: Track name: SaxAlto: Track name: Guitar: No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 0 - this instrument will not be heard No pre-resampling cache hit Last 7 MIDI events are ignored Playing time: ~33 seconds Notes cut: 0 Notes lost totally: 0 And I just hear a treble tone... Could someone help me? Thank you so much :) Try Staff.midiInstrument -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics in cadenza
- Original Message -
From: Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:37 PM
Subject: lyrics in cadenza
Hello,
I am new to vocal music notation. I have a piece where I want to write
a coloratura/cadenza. I have two problems.
1) Lilypond reports that it finds an unlimited hyphen. It removes the
hyphen as well as the remaining text.
2) I need the slur to indicate that the notes belong to one syllable.
That's okay, so Lilypond knows how long the coloratura should be. But
I would like to hide the slur, since the singer doesn't need it. The
autograph doesn't have a slur anyway. Can you help hiding it?
Regards
Helge
\version 2.15.40
soprano = \relative c'' {
\key d \major
\clef soprano
\time 2/4
r8 e d c |
b( \cadenzaOn g'~\fermata g16[ fis a g] fis[ e d c] b[ c d c] b[ a g
fis] e8[ c' b \cadenzaOff a] g16.[ a32]) a4\trill |
d,4 r
}
sopranoWords = \lyricmode { zu neu -- en Freu -- den wach. }
\score {
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff { \new Voice = one \soprano }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto one { \sopranoWords }
}
Please check the documentation for \skip or \melisma which should do what
you want.
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Re: the bracket \[ does not work! A bug?
It's because LilyPond does not like putting ligatures over beamed notes. If
you use \autoBeamOff the ligatures are correctly presented.
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- Original Message -
From: Mario Moles
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:25 AM
Subject: the bracket \[ does not work! A bug?
Hi!
I would like to know why \[ \] does not always work, as in the example.
Is there a way to still get \[ \]?
Thanks!
Here is an example:
\version 2.15.41
\language english
\header {
% Elimina la tagline predefinita di LilyPond
tagline = ##f
}
global = {
\key c \major
\time 4/4
}
violin = \relative c'' {
\global
% Qui segue la musica.
\[a16 b c d\] \[a, b\]
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Vl.
midiInstrument = violin
} \violin
\layout { }
\midi {
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 100 4)
}
}
}
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Re: Regression test rater
- Original Message - From: Janek Warchol janek.lilyp...@gmail.com To: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net Cc: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org; Devel lilypond-de...@gnu.org Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Regression test rater On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote: First of all, thanks to those who have spent time and energy rating the regression test at http://www.philholmes.net/lilypond/regtests/ - we're very close to having a rating for all the tests. [...] LilyPond Regression Test Rater Well - believe it or not, either you've reviewed ALL the LilyPond regtests, in which case thanks and please take a well earned rest, or other reviewers have given us good enough coverage already. wow! Kudos! :) Janek Don't get too excited. It's a bug - it looks like every regtest has received a single rating, but we're going for 4 per regtest, to get a good average. I'll fix it tomorrow -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Regression test rater
- Original Message - From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net To: Janek Warchol janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Cc: Devel lilypond-de...@gnu.org; LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Regression test rater - Original Message - From: Janek Warchol janek.lilyp...@gmail.com To: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net Cc: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org; Devel lilypond-de...@gnu.org Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Regression test rater On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote: First of all, thanks to those who have spent time and energy rating the regression test at http://www.philholmes.net/lilypond/regtests/ - we're very close to having a rating for all the tests. [...] LilyPond Regression Test Rater Well - believe it or not, either you've reviewed ALL the LilyPond regtests, in which case thanks and please take a well earned rest, or other reviewers have given us good enough coverage already. wow! Kudos! :) Janek Don't get too excited. It's a bug - it looks like every regtest has received a single rating, but we're going for 4 per regtest, to get a good average. I'll fix it tomorrow -- Phil Holmes Kind-of fixed. The way the files are presented is aimed at ensuring no-one rates a regtest more than once, and that they get the least-rated files presented to them in a random order. The only way I seem to be able to get this to work is with nested SQL statements, and this is quite slow. The alternative would be to make it simpler, so that users simply get files which they haven't rated, with no ordering apart from that. However, the downside of this is that we may get lots of files with 4 ratings, but some remain with only 1 until we've done the lot. Let me know what you'd prefer, fellow raters. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Regression test rater
This prompted me to check my indexing and it was mostly OK, but I found that adding an index on RateUsername improves the speed of this query by a factor of about 4. I think we're back to pretty much OK now. If it gets bad, I'll ask for help with my SQL. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Ramana Kumar To: Trevor Daniels Cc: Janek Warchol ; Devel ; Phil Holmes ; LilyPond User Group Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Regression test rater Also if you want to give more details about your database, e.g., which SQL implementation, how the tables are organised, and the code you tried, maybe someone here can improve it. On Jul 10, 2012 4:54 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Phil Holmes wrote Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:03 PM Kind-of fixed. The way the files are presented is aimed at ensuring no-one rates a regtest more than once, and that they get the least-rated files presented to them in a random order. The only way I seem to be able to get this to work is with nested SQL statements, and this is quite slow. The alternative would be to make it simpler, so that users simply get files which they haven't rated, with no ordering apart from that. However, the downside of this is that we may get lots of files with 4 ratings, but some remain with only 1 until we've done the lot. Let me know what you'd prefer, fellow raters. I'm getting load times of just less than 10 sec fairly consistently. This seems quite acceptable. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tunefl and other web services
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM Subject: Re: tunefl and other web services Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: - Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:24 PM Subject: Re: tunefl and other web services Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: PS concerning the girl, she's pretty indeed, but some of the /priests/ using Lily might have a problem with that :) She is about as relevant to music typesetting as a spotted flycatcher. Probably less so, since the latter is at least unmistakenly a songbird. It is probably only a matter of time until copies of the Mozart Requiem are adorned with scantily clad females like sports car catalogues (where they are similarly off-topic but ubiquitous). But the practice does not make much sense to me. Here's a low res photo of one sitting on my weather station. Their song's not great, tho... I agree that it's not their main appeal. Here's a bunch that's supposed to go into training next week or so. == That's lovely. Not quite sure where ours are nesting this year, so not sure about young. In the UK, they're an at risk species - what about in Germany? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Odd snippet
Could someone have a look at http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=190 and say what's wrong with it, please? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd snippet
- Original Message - From: Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com To: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net Cc: Devel lilypond-de...@gnu.org; LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Odd snippet On 15 July 2012 22:22, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote: Could someone have a look at http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=190 and say what's wrong with it, please? It uses extra-offset to move the segno, so no space is reserved for it on the left hand side. Cheers, Neil Ta. It works in a PDF version, since it just sticks the segno into the margin. TBH I haven't got a clue what this is trying to do with the musical flow and am tempted to delete it. (Issue http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2428 refers to it). -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Space inside a staff, between the lines
- Original Message - From: Nils l...@nilsgey.de To: lilypond-user User lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:00 AM Subject: Space inside a staff, between the lines Hello, I forgot how to increase the spacing between the stafflines, inside a staff and can't find it again. I need this for partly done compositions to write the missing parts by hand. \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #1.5 Nils P.S. for the same purpose: How to deactivate the drawing of stems? Just transparent would be enough, the rhythmic spacing should stay as it is. These get in the way all the time :) \override Stem #'transparent = ##t Should do it. BTW, I don't know these off the top of my head and found them in the NR in 5 minutes. I got the first from the index for ossia staves, since I know these are small, and the second by searching for invisible. I've not tested either, but think they should work. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chord Inversion Problem.
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From: AlanRobertClark alanrobertcl...@gmail.com
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:25 PM
Subject: Chord Inversion Problem.
Dear All.
I am trying to put together a simple chord (triad) inversion exercise
(piano).
Snippet:
\version 2.12.3
accompaniment = {\easyHeadsOn \chordmode{
c'1 c'/g c'/e} e' g' c''
}
\simultaneous{
\context ChordNames {
\accompaniment
}
\context Staff {
{\accompaniment}
}
}
This produces the first two chords, as expected, but c'/e ends up
producing c'
c'' g'', which is not in the way the second inversion would ordinarily be
played. Entering what I want produces (correctly an Eminor with a
flattened 6th,
instead of the more usual C/E notation.
Any help will be appreciated.
Alan.
I think you'll find this is the same as
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2617, which I realise
doesn't help you much
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Re: Different markups for odd and even lyrics lines / stanzas
- Original Message - From: Specken Flecken speckfl...@anpacken-jetzt.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Different markups for odd and even lyrics lines / stanzas Dear lilypond people, Marek from the bug squad suggested, I should post this question here. Does someone know a solution for the following problem: I want to distinguish odd and even lyrics lines, i.e. stanzas. I can think of 3 variants: 1. Colored resp. light gray background, 2. a vertical line after each even numbered stanza or Do you mean horizontal? 3. extra vertical spacing after each even numbered stanza. I would be grateful for suggestions how to accomplish this, e.g. using scheme. Best regards, SpeckFleck -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Kneed beam with polyphonic music
- Original Message -
From: Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net
To: lily-users lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:36 PM
Subject: Kneed beam with polyphonic music
Hello,
I need to switch the staff for some purposes. To avoid clash with other
notes I want to use a kneed beam. For this staff switch. Unfortunately I
have also polyphonic music.
How can I enable the kneed beam for the quavers in music below?
Regards
Helge
[snip code]
As a general rule, surround notes where the voice _must_ be specified with
\voiceFoo and \oneVoice. In other words, in your example, use something
like
\new Voice { e''4 \voiceOne e \oneVoice }
as opposed to
\new Voice { \voiceOne e''4 e }
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Re: Enc2ly: converter from Encore to Lilypond (GPLv3+)
- Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:02 AM Subject: Re: Enc2ly: converter from Encore to Lilypond (GPLv3+) Am 30.07.2012 22:30, schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: See https://github.com/hanwen/enc2ly/blob/master/enc2ly.go Results in: 404 This is not the web page you are looking for. Helge But it's not too hard to correct: https://github.com/hanwen/go-enc2ly/blob/master/enc2ly.go -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond developeruser meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th
- Original Message - From: Rodolfo Zitellini xhero...@gmail.com To: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org; lilypond-user@gnu.org; lilypond-de...@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 5:02 PM Subject: Re: LilyPond developeruser meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:03 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Rodolfo Zitellini xhero...@gmail.com writes: I think I could come more or less from the 24th to the 27th, do you have already planned some of the activities? I really look forward in learning more about Lily's internals, ad I would be glad if I could help with debugging the build scripts (which scripting language do you use?) - also I will be glad to discuss my experience in using lilypond in a musicological friendly way. ciao Rodolfo Build is mainly done with make. There are also a number of python scripts thrown in. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Turning a lilypond file into a Sibelius file
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/midi-output should get you the basic notes and structure. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Warren Cohen To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 3:23 PM Subject: Turning a lilypond file into a Sibelius file I have a rather interesting problem. I need to turn a lilypond file into a Sibelius file. It seems that lilypond is not XML compatible, but is there a way to convert it that would make it easier and more accurate than converting a PDF file? Thanks for letting me know Warren Cohen -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the new vertical spacing between systems syntax
- Original Message -
From: ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 11:34 PM
Subject: the new vertical spacing between systems syntax
Concerning the examples in the manual, section 4.4.2:
4.4.2 Explicit staff and system positioning
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/explicit-staff-and-system-positioning
I don't understand the reason that the variables that
override default spacing between systems:
#'line-break-system-details #'((X-offset . 20))
#'line-break-system-details #'((Y-offset . 40))
#'line-break-system-details #'((X-offset . 20) (Y-offset . 40))
#'line-break-system-details #'((alignment-distances . (15)))
#'line-break-system-details #'((X-offset . 20) (Y-offset . 40)
(alignment-distances . (15)))
are within one of the \new Voice brackets:
\new Voice { }
Since these vertical spacing over-rides are to
supposed to effect spacing between systems
why are is this syntax inserted within
just one of the voices of a system?
I would have thought that syntax to indicate
spacing between systems would have been
placed within the \score {} brackets before
any of the \new Staff brackets.
Is my question clear? Thank you for your help.
I believe it's because of this line:
when we override NonMusicalPaperColumn in the middle of note entry, use the
special \overrideProperty command
in the middle of note entry implies the commands are entered in a voice
block.
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Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down
- Original Message - From: Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com To: Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net Cc: m...@apollinemike.com; Lilypond-User lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:04 AM Subject: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down It would be nice if someone from the sibelius team came out and gave some hints about how the .sib format is structured. We could be of help by rescuing the years of work many users have stashed away as .sib files. (I had a brief look at the file format years ago; the problem is that they run some sort of compression scheme over their data) V7 includes MusicXML export, so it's fairly trivial to export a file from Sibelius and import it into another program. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Paralellizing Lilypond [was: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shutsdown]
- Original Message - From: Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net To: han...@xs4all.nl Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org; Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Paralellizing Lilypond [was: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shutsdown] Yes, but the problem that you have there is that it requires the user to separate out the projects manually using some kind of build system like Make. I don't see why in principle Lilypond shouldn't be able to work out those independent jobs itself -- essentially any elements separated by a page break can be handled as a separate job, and there must be other further optimizations available. If you could break it up into 8 chunks, you could use all 8 cores in a quad core system using -djob-count. No need to use make. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: end-of-line-visible does not work
Can you reduce the score to a small one that you can send, which will compile
independently? That way we can try to see what you're doing more easily.
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- Original Message -
From: Loïc Chahine
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:28 PM
Subject: end-of-line-visible does not work
Hi all!
I am trying to write a Da Capo mark at the end of a score, but
#end-of-line-visible option seems not to work.
It is quite hard to send the whole score (it has some includes), but here is
the Main file:
\version 2.15.42
\include def-reprises.ly
debut = {
\tempo Vivace
\time 4/4
\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
\key b \minor
}
structure = {
\repeat volta 2 {
s1*3
}
\alternative {
{ s1 } { s1 }
}
\repeat volta 2 {
s1*7
}
s1*64
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-visible
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #RIGHT
\mark \markup { \smaller D.C. al Fine }
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff {
\debut
\structure
\include flauto.ly
}
\new Staff {
\debut
\include violone.ly
}
}
If I comment the '\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-visibility =
#end-of-line-visible' line, I have my Da Capo mark at the beginning of the bar.
Thanks in advance for your help!
L.C.
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Re: end-of-line-visible does not work
How about:
s1*64
s2. s8. s16
^\markup { \right-align D.C. al Fine }
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- Original Message -
From: Loïc Chahine
To: Phil Holmes
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: end-of-line-visible does not work
I tried with another score and it works, that's weird.
I can send the two included files, actually there are only two (I am used to
work with more). Here they are, with the main score. I commented the 'include
def-reprises.ly' line: it is not useful in this score. That way, you should be
able to compile the score.
Let me know if that seems a good way to help or if I should do something more
tiny.
L.C.
Le 10/08/12 15:32, Phil Holmes a écrit :
Can you reduce the score to a small one that you can send, which will
compile independently? That way we can try to see what you're doing more
easily.
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- Original Message -
From: Loïc Chahine
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:28 PM
Subject: end-of-line-visible does not work
Hi all!
I am trying to write a Da Capo mark at the end of a score, but
#end-of-line-visible option seems not to work.
It is quite hard to send the whole score (it has some includes), but here
is the Main file:
\version 2.15.42
\include def-reprises.ly
debut = {
\tempo Vivace
\time 4/4
\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
\key b \minor
}
structure = {
\repeat volta 2 {
s1*3
}
\alternative {
{ s1 } { s1 }
}
\repeat volta 2 {
s1*7
}
s1*64
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-visibility =
#end-of-line-visible
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #RIGHT
\mark \markup { \smaller D.C. al Fine }
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff {
\debut
\structure
\include flauto.ly
}
\new Staff {
\debut
\include violone.ly
}
}
If I comment the '\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-visibility
= #end-of-line-visible' line, I have my Da Capo mark at the beginning of the
bar.
Thanks in advance for your help!
L.C.
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Re: Vertical spacing within header blocks
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From: Hilary Snaden h...@newearth.demon.co.uk
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: Vertical spacing within header blocks
Is there a way of adjusting the vertical spacing within a header block?
After increasing the size of the title text, so:
title = \markup { \fontsize #5 Suite }
but I now need to slightly increase the spacing between the title and
subsequent text and the dedication text above it. So far I've found no
references to how to do this.
Something along the following lines is likely to do what you want:
\header {
subtitle = \markup {\fontsize #5 Brahms: Symphony Number 3}
composer = \markup { \center-column { Music: Arranged by Phil Holmes
\vspace #1 } }
}
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Re: staff line thickness
Look at using something like: \override StaffSymbol #'ledger-line-thickness = #'(0.2 . 0.2) \override Stem #'thickness = #0.2 as well -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Stjepan Horvat To: lilypond-user Mailinglist Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 5:12 PM Subject: staff line thickness hi guys.. is it possible to make the staff lines thinner without effecting other lines..?! i tried \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #3 but it affects all.. thanks.. -- Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18 -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: i have a question about size
- Original Message -
From: fabio gabbianelli fabiogabbiane...@hotmail.it
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:00 PM
Subject: i have a question about size
hi, i want to write a piano accompaniment. i write 2 scores, melody and
the piano score but i want the melody's size smalleri have searched in
the manual but i didn't find it
i have set the lyl file so:
\header {...
}
melody = {...
}
upper = \relative c'' {...
}
lower = \relative c {...
}
\score {
\new Voice = mel { \autoBeamOff \melody }
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff = upper \upper
\new Staff = lower \lower
}
thanx!
fabio
ps: i didin't write the notes, i write just the file's structure
This should do what you want:
melody = \relative c'' { c4 d e f }
upper = \relative c'' { f4 e d c }
lower = \relative c { \clef bass g a b c }
\score {
\new Staff \with {
fontSize = #-2
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -2)
}
\new Voice = mel { \autoBeamOff \melody }
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff = upper \upper
\new Staff = lower \lower
}
See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/length-and-thickness-of-objects
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Re: subito dynamic after hairpin
- Original Message - From: wjm mooney...@aim.com To: davidandrewrog...@gmail.com; Lilypond-User List lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:32 PM Subject: Re: subito dynamic after hairpin From your reply... +++ Given that sfz is equal to subito-forzando (see http://piano.about.com/od/termsrelatingtodynamics/g/GL_subito.htm) That page at piano.about.com is incorrect (and silly). sfz is not equal to subito forzando; it seems that the English-speaking about.com writers weren't sure what any of these words meant, and decided that instead of simply checking an Italian dictionary, they would make something up. In fact, sforzando is an ordinary and legitimate word, not an abbreviation for anything else, and in fact the word subito is rarely (probably never) represented in scores by a single letter s - too vague. (sub. gets used fairly often, but perhaps even more often the word is spelled out.) It's sad that people (this is directed at the about.com hacks, not at you) see fit to publish made-up definitions of words they don't know. My criticism of the clueless irresponsible writers of that page has no bearing on the value of what you have contributed to the Lilypond discussion. While your discovery is (through no fault of yours) probably not useful in this particular situation, I hope it proves useful for other purposes. + I have no intention of taking part in a war of words :) The following links might shed a faint light on the 'confusion' at the site I quoted (assuming 'they' know what they're talking about - I'm in no position to judge!) http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sforzando http://www.thefreedictionary.com/subito http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamics_%28music%29#Words.2Fphrases_indicating_changes_of_dynamics Particularly note the image in the TR coner of this page 'Subito forzando' and 'piano' dynamics in Beethoven's String Quartet in A Major, Op. 18, no. 5, III, variation I, m. 7-8. So does sfz mean sforzando or subito forzando ? :) Would explaining what subito mf means to a possibly not completely erudite set of performers be any more difficult than explaining what smf means? Oh well. I thought English was bad enough in having two ways of doing things - apparently the Italians do as well. Regards Bill Looks like an internet urban myth. My Grove does not mention sforzando as being anything other than being from the Italian for forced. My Chambers dictionary defines it as coming from the present participle of the Italian sforzare. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
